# American English Pronunciation that bugs the bejeezus out of me

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**Created:** [October 9, 2008, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-english-pronunciation-that-bugs-the-bejeezus-out-of-me/467182 "2008-10-09T16:53:37Z")\
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**Post date:** [October 11, 2008, 6:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-english-pronunciation-that-bugs-the-bejeezus-out-of-me/467182/121 "2008-10-11T06:53:36Z")

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[QUOTE=Oregon sunshine]

Um… okay… so how do you pronounce Edinburgh??  
Isn’t it pronounced like it’s spelled???  
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> [@devilsknew](#):
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> It’s “Ed-in-bourogh”, like the five boroughs of New York.
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> Only the Scots could come up with the stealth “O”, it’s so silent that it’s invisible.
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> …or maybe they imported the O’s to America so we could make doughnuts.

Damn (why do I have to use an “N”, Here?)!  
Considered meta-punnery, I missed the obvious. But my muse inspires eternal, naught for not.

“… or maybe they (Scots) exported the O’s to America so we could make doughnaughts, or likely doughnochts.”

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> [@MisterThyristor](#):
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> And then there’s the way the Brits pronounce potpourri (POT-purry) as compared to the way us Yanks do (po-purr-EE). I once heard an interview where an American announcer used the word in an interview with a British expert, who replied, “How did the Pope enter the conversation?” (i.e. popery)

I’ve never heard anybody pronounce it like that. “Po-purr-EE” is the usual pronunciation here, IME.

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**Post date:** [October 11, 2008, 12:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-english-pronunciation-that-bugs-the-bejeezus-out-of-me/467182/123 "2008-10-11T12:47:41Z")

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> [@Nobody](#):
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> We (in the US) will pronounce the H in herb, if you guys will pronounce your T’s. You’re not Bri’ish, you’re Bri **t** ish. And something small isn’t li’le, it’s li **tt** le.

What a strange example, considering how often the T vanishes or is changed in America. My location is often prounounced A’lanah. With my food I need to order a glass of warder because the servers often do not understand me if I call it water. And from Reeves & Mortimer’s game show, whatever it was called:

Reeves: What do Americans call a dentist?  
Guest: Periodontist? (or some similar term - I can’t remember)  
Reeves: No, a ‘dennist’.

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> [@RickJay](#):
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> I don’t get it. “Tune” and “Toon” are pronounced the same way.

I’ve got some news for you - not in England they’re not. And ‘news’ rhymes with ‘views’.

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**Post date:** [October 11, 2008, 2:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-english-pronunciation-that-bugs-the-bejeezus-out-of-me/467182/125 "2008-10-11T14:44:04Z")

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> [@amarone](#):
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> What a strange example, considering how often the T vanishes or is changed in America. My location is often prounounced A’lanah. With my food I need to order a glass of warder because the servers often do not understand me if I call it water. And from Reeves & Mortimer’s game show, whatever it was called:
> 
> Reeves: What do Americans call a dentist?  
> Guest: Periodontist? (or some similar term - I can’t remember)  
> Reeves: No, a ‘dennist’.

Ah, but you, and the people around you, are talking with a thick southern accent. I’m talking about American English that’s spoken properly.😃

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**Post date:** [October 11, 2008, 2:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-english-pronunciation-that-bugs-the-bejeezus-out-of-me/467182/126 "2008-10-11T14:49:49Z")

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> [@amarone](#):
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> I’ve got some news for you - not in England they’re not. And ‘news’ rhymes with ‘views’.

News rhymes with views for me too. The e and ie are pronounced with a vary slight difference, but both words still rhyme here in America.

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> [@Nobody](#):
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> News rhymes with views for me too. I pronounce the e and ie with a vary slight difference, but both words still rhyme.

I most commonly hear nooze in the US, versus nyooze in the UK. OK, so nooze and views still rhyme in the ooze part - I could have explained better.

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> [@amarone](#):
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> I most commonly hear nooze in the US, versus nyooze in the UK. OK, so nooze and views still rhyme in the ooze part - I could have explained better.

I see what you’re saying now.

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> [@Usram](#):
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> I’ve never heard anybody pronounce it like that. “Po-purr-EE” is the usual pronunciation here, IME.

Really? I’ve heard it more than once on British media (radio/television), are media pronunciations much different than the general public?

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Nope. I suppose there must be some people who use an Anglicised pronunciation. I just haven’t encountered it myself. It’s not a word you hear every day.

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> [@Usram](#):
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> Nope. I suppose there must be some people who use an Anglicised pronunciation. I just haven’t encountered it myself. It’s not a word you hear every day.

I, too, have never heard an English person say other than po-pourri, other than occasional instances where it almost certainly just stems from ignorance.

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> [@villa](#):
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> The chief of these are Iraq and Iran. I have never heard anyone call the country Eye-ndia or Eye-srael. Also the inability of any American I have yet met to correctly say Edinburgh.

Archie Bunker used to say Eye-talians. Every time I hear other Americans say Eye-raq and Eye-ran it reminds me of All in the Family.

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I’ve always pronounced Edinburgh Ed-in-burro. Is that correct, or incorrect?

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The American pronounciation that gets to me is warrior rhyming with lawyer. I say war-ri-yah but I’ve heard woy-er quite often – notably on some programme where the wrestling coach kept telling his squad to be woyers. The mi-er pronunciation of mirror is nearly as bad.

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> [@Nobody](#):
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> I’ve always pronounced Edinburgh Ed-in-burro. Is that correct, or incorrect?

I’ve heard it as ‘Ed-in-burrah’.

‘Borough’ is an odd one, though: ‘Scarborough’ in Ontario is pronounced ‘Scar-bur-owe’ or even ‘Scar-bro’, while ‘Peterborough’ in Ontario is pronounced ‘Pee-durr-burl’. 🙂

I pronounce the names of Iraq and Iran as ‘ee-rack’ and ‘ee-ran’. They don’t rhyme with ‘rock’ and ‘Ron’ at all.

‘Route’ has two pronunciations: ‘root’ for things to do with direction and ways to get places, and ‘rowt’ to do with the power tool that cuts grooves in things. Hence, I pronounce ‘router’ as ‘roo-dur’ when it’s the piece of computer networking gear that directs packets of inbformation to different destinations, and ‘row-dur’ when it’s the power tool.

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My American peeve: Write your representative, write the president and so on.

To!

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> [@Kal](#):
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> My American peeve: Write your representative, write the president and so on.
> 
> To!

To Non-Americans that one stands out like a sore thumb every time it’s said or written.

Ironically there’s a similar situation where Brits are the guilty ones and Americans aren’t. But I can’t remember what it is.

Edit: They made fun of it in South Park, The teacher said “Write your Essay…” so they all wrote to their 'ese’s (sp?)

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> [@Nobody](#):
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> We (in the US) will pronounce the H in herb, if you guys will pronounce your T’s. You’re not Bri’ish, you’re Bri **t** ish. And something small isn’t li’le, it’s li **tt** le.

There’s a variant pronunciation of the ‘tt’, which inserts a ‘kk’ in its place: Likkle, kekkle. My gob switches between all pronunciations, seemingly at random.

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> [@Lobsang](#):
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> Ironically there’s a similar situation where Brits are the guilty ones and Americans aren’t. But I can’t remember what it is.

Probably the hospital one (which I think that was already mentioned). When ill, we’re in hospital while an American is in the hospital.

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> [@RickJay](#):
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> I don’t get it. “Tune” and “Toon” are pronounced the same way.

This will certainly help

[![](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/JiWs5_vDYJc/hqdefault.jpg ""Tunes" Cough Sweet Commercial circa 80's.") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JiWs5_vDYJc)

Or it would, if the sound level were not so poor.

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