# American Eugenics Movement and Euro Nazism

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**Category:** Great Debates\
**Created:** [April 17, 2011, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-eugenics-movement-and-euro-nazism/578759 "2011-04-17T21:53:19Z")\
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**Author:** ![New\_Deal\_Democrat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/9d8465/32.png) [@New\_Deal\_Democrat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/New_Deal_Democrat)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2011, 1:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-eugenics-movement-and-euro-nazism/578759/61 "2011-04-23T13:02:28Z")

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> [@puddleglum](#):
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> If he does read the book he will find that critique of it laughable. The reason the Nazis outlawed independent unions is the same reason the Bolsheviks did, since the german workers were running the state there was no longer any need for an independent union movement. The Nazis and Fascists presented themselves as revolutionary socialists because that is what they were. That is why the word “Socialist” is right in the title of the Nazi party. But do not take my word for it read the book and decide for yourselves.

The word “Socialist” was in the title of the Nazi Party because the socialist ideal was popular in Germany. It was a marketing ploy that worked. Nevertheless, nearly everyone who was rich before the Nazis came to power remained rich afterward. That would not have been true in a genuinely socialist economy and government.

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**Author:** ![Anticounterrevolutionary](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f04885/32.png) [@Anticounterrevolutionary](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anticounterrevolutionary)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2011, 1:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-eugenics-movement-and-euro-nazism/578759/62 "2011-04-23T13:31:59Z")

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> [@Alessan](#):
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> IMHO, Israel’s support for IVF has little to do with eugenics and demographiocs and everything to do with the country’s dominant culture and its priorities. In other words, we’re a nation of Jewish mothers. If enough voters have to deal with their moms asking “Why aren’t you bringing me a grandchild?”, sooner or later money will be earmarked.

The same goes for Moscow, London, Beijing, and Los Angeles. Followed by, “Why haven’t you called?” “Pull your pants up!” and “How do I work this remote control?”

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**Author:** ![pinguin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ac8455/32.png) [@pinguin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pinguin)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2011, 2:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-eugenics-movement-and-euro-nazism/578759/63 "2011-04-24T02:51:26Z")

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> [@manila](#):
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> I had a very basic familiarisation with the American Eugenics movement ( saw the movie about Kellog’s Sanitorium) And I sort of assumed it was a localised crank-culture and not so serious in its general impact on society.
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> But reading this Wiki article:
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> [Eugenics in the United States - Wikipedia](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eugenics_in_the_United_States) i
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> It shows a much wider and more sickeningly serious spread of “racial purity” measures that could be compared to what was happening in Nazi Germany.

Actually, the Nazi eugenics program was probably inspired by the “efficiency” and “commitment” or the American eugenic program, which lead the pack :eek:  
Now, if you really want to get sick, see this show. Don’t believe everything, but just get impressed.

[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=veHhcxQjZ2w&feature=related](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=veHhcxQjZ2w&feature=related)

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