Even you are too smart to actually believe this. Nice poker face though.
Yes. How many American cities did they bomb? They tried to defeat your military (and ours, by the way), but that’s a far cry from “trying to kill you” as a nation as per Curtis’ claims.
No, it completely contradicts it. How many American cities did Japan attack? I mean really attack, blitzkrieg style.
That’s not the issue. The issue is whether or not they tried to kill you. Seems a pretty roundabout way of doing it, if that was Afghanistan’s plan as per Curtis’ claims.
Actually I think the intent was honest, believe it or not. It was hamfisted and ineffective, but I can certainly see why it took place. It was and is just entirely the wrong approach.
No kidding!
If you’re not moral when it suits you, you’re not moral.
I’ve found that one-on-one, Americans are singularly nice people. Mind you, I haven’t been to the States in 12 years, and things can change.
Ah, a personal insult and unsupported criticism in place of an actual argument.
And as it happens, yes I find it perfectly plausible that an Administration known worldwide for its stupidity will do things that other nations are simply not stupid enough to do. Things that Bush I and Clinton weren’t stupid enough to do, for that matter.
Extraordinary rendition - Wikipedia Extraordinary rendition was only flying prisoners to other countries to get horribly tortured and sometimes killed. Do we have no responsibility for that . Can you actually pretend that we don’t torture?
The experts say it does not work and it diminishes us. But some have to try and justify anything we do.
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How do you sleep at night Der Trihs? Do you actually believe what you are saying? Are you going to be the positive change the “Administration” desperately needs? I mean there is no way a quick google search would indicate other countries depriving basic human rights from their own citizens or non citizens right?
The experts to whom you choose to listen say that. I’ve seen an even body on either side of the argument, and no data to support either side.
I give up.
If you think the mere act of building a military is villanous than you live in a comic book.
What sucks is you make some valid points, but they are buried in the nonsensical super-partisan garbage that you post. Yes, we should not have invaded Iraq. That invasion was handled badly, and the “occupation” (which of course was no such thing, but I digress) was flawed as well. But your statements here about slaughtering them en masse is foolish in the extreme. However, your stance on rooting for insurgents to kill US soldiers is well known.
I think I’m done with trying to make you see facts, or at least take them into account. Goodbye. I will miss your excellent posts in CS, for what it’s worth.
“Is this the right forum for an argument?”
:rolleyes: No, I didn’t say that or even imply it. I was pointing out that it is impossible to perform many of the “villainous” acts that America has committed, unless you actually have such things as a massive military capable of threatening & conquering faraway countries. So the people who keep trying to pretend that other countries are doing the same evil things that America is are wrong, because those other countries haven’t even built what they’d need to in order to commit such acts in the first place.
No, the Afghans were quite willing to hand Osama over, after 9/11.
Yet this was brushed aside and kept quiet.
The US leadership wanted an invasion, not a head on a platter.
Next to the Frequency, Kenneth.