# American Gods - STARZ in 2017

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-gods-starz-in-2017/760647>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Tags:** tv-shows-scripted\
**Created:** [July 23, 2016, 2:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-gods-starz-in-2017/760647 "2016-07-23T02:14:25Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 19\
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**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\
**Post date:** [July 23, 2016, 2:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-gods-starz-in-2017/760647/1 "2016-07-23T02:14:25Z")

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I am pretty sure the upcoming adaptation of American Gods has been discussed here before, but if it isn’t on the front page, clearly it never happened. 😃

The first teaser for American Gods (by Neil Gaiman) on Starz (due in 2017) has been released. I am loving Ian McShane as Mr. Wednesday. I’m a big fan of Bryan Fuller, and Ricky Whittle looks great as Shadow. It looks fantastic , and I can’t wait 🙂

> **[American Gods' first teaser is here](https://www.theverge.com/2016/7/22/12258320/american-gods-teaser-san-diego-comic-con-2016)**
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> <https://twitter.com/AmericanGodsSTZ/status/756629065889488896>

What’s today? Today is _my_ day.

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [July 23, 2016, 1:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-gods-starz-in-2017/760647/2 "2016-07-23T13:53:16Z")

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OK, given previous attempts at putting Gaiman’s work on screen, I have to ask: What color is Mr. Nancy?

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**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\
**Post date:** [July 23, 2016, 2:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-gods-starz-in-2017/760647/3 "2016-07-23T14:57:08Z")

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> [@Chronos](#):
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> OK, given previous attempts at putting Gaiman’s work on screen, I have to ask: What color is Mr. Nancy?

[Brownish](http://www.thewrap.com/american-gods-casts-orlando-jones-in-pivotal-role-of-mr-nancy/)?

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**Author:** ![thelurkinghorror](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7c8e57/32.png) [@thelurkinghorror](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thelurkinghorror)\
**Post date:** [July 23, 2016, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-gods-starz-in-2017/760647/4 "2016-07-23T19:17:33Z")

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I almost didn’t click it because “teaser” usually means “crappy trailer slapped together in 5 minutes and has almost zero actual footage.” Glad to know it was a full trailer. Lots of good actors.

I think I’ll have to give it a read again.

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**Author:** ![lisiate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f05b48/32.png) [@lisiate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lisiate)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2016, 11:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-gods-starz-in-2017/760647/5 "2016-07-24T11:26:42Z")

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Wow that looks great. Hopefully they stay that faithful throughout the series and don’t insert lame additions so off it alienates fans.

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**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2016, 12:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-gods-starz-in-2017/760647/6 "2016-07-24T12:57:53Z")

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Only thing that’s worrying me is that I haven’t seen any casting or scenes for any of the characters in/related to Lakeside - no Chad Mulligan, no Sam Black Crow or her sister, no Hinzellmann…

otherwise, I’m loving the trailer and casting so far.

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**Author:** ![lisiate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f05b48/32.png) [@lisiate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lisiate)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2016, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-gods-starz-in-2017/760647/7 "2016-07-24T20:42:07Z")

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Maybe Lakeside is being saved for a second season? Or is the intention ‘one and done’?

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**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2016, 10:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-gods-starz-in-2017/760647/8 "2016-07-24T22:39:50Z")

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> [@thelurkinghorror](#):
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> I almost didn’t click it because “teaser” usually means “crappy trailer slapped together in 5 minutes and has almost zero actual footage.” Glad to know it was a full trailer. Lots of good actors.
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> I think I’ll have to give it a read again.

Sorry, perhaps I shouldn’t have called it a teaser. I am re-reading it now, and I am really pleased about this adaptation, It looks great 🙂

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**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2016, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-gods-starz-in-2017/760647/9 "2016-07-24T23:45:57Z")

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Lincoln from the 100 is exactly how i picture Shadow looking.

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**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2016, 7:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-gods-starz-in-2017/760647/10 "2016-07-25T07:55:59Z")

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> [@lisiate](#):
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> Maybe Lakeside is being saved for a second season? Or is the intention ‘one and done’?

I don’t know, I think there’s more than one season because of what they’ve said about adding in origins and other bits - but I’d think they’d introduce Sam earlier.

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**Author:** ![Isamu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/7c8e57/32.png) [@Isamu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Isamu)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2016, 1:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-gods-starz-in-2017/760647/11 "2016-07-25T13:10:21Z")

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Crispin Glover as Mr. World. That has promise.

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**Author:** ![TYphoonSignal8](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e99b99/32.png) [@TYphoonSignal8](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TYphoonSignal8)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2016, 3:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-gods-starz-in-2017/760647/12 "2016-07-29T03:35:33Z")

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I always struggled with the story since it seems to encapsulate a story which Gaiman might have done in The Sandman. Loki, Odin and Thor all appear in The Sandman, but Gaiman would not have been permitted to have explored these characters in a story arc for obvious legal reasons.

As such, it seems to me that the novel is bereft of contextual superstructure.

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**Author:** ![thelurkinghorror](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7c8e57/32.png) [@thelurkinghorror](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thelurkinghorror)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2016, 7:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-gods-starz-in-2017/760647/13 "2016-07-29T07:32:02Z")

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I looked and it’s not funny-helmet Loki in Sandman as far as I can tell. So who would sue, the Viking lawyers?

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**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2016, 7:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-gods-starz-in-2017/760647/14 "2016-07-29T07:47:49Z")

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> [@DigitalC](#):
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> Lincoln from the 100 is exactly how i picture Shadow looking.

Shadow’s black though. And huge rather than wiry. I always imagined him looking sort of like Michael Clarke Duncan on _The Green Mile_ - large but self-effacing. Tough casting him now of course :).

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**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2016, 7:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-gods-starz-in-2017/760647/15 "2016-07-29T07:56:41Z")

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Man, Pablo Schreiber as Mad Sweeney is seven shades of wrong though. Jim Beaver, guys. That’s who it’s always been.

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**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2016, 11:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-gods-starz-in-2017/760647/16 "2016-07-29T11:45:24Z")

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> [@Kobal2](#):
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> Shadow’s black though.

So’s Ricky Whittle

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> And huge rather than wiry.

I don’t think [Whittle](http://images6.fanpop.com/image/photos/38700000/Ricky-Whittle-ricky-whittle-38782075-297-446.jpg) could be characterised as “wiry”…

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> I always imagined him looking sort of like Michael Clarke Duncan on _The Green Mile_ - large but self-effacing.

I never pictured him as _that_ large. Just buff and tall (Whittle’s 6’2). And he’s supposed to be _ambiguously_ black, which MCD wasn’t.

My other favourite choice was Wentworth Miller, but he’s “only” 6’ .

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**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2016, 1:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-gods-starz-in-2017/760647/17 "2016-07-29T13:48:35Z")

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> [@Kobal2](#):
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> Shadow’s black though. And huge rather than wiry. I always imagined him looking sort of like Michael Clarke Duncan on _The Green Mile_ - large but self-effacing. Tough casting him now of course :).

He is not just black, he is ethnically ambiguous. One of the first lines in the book is one of the guards asking him if he has any black in him, which would make no sense if he was simply black.

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**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2016, 2:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-gods-starz-in-2017/760647/18 "2016-07-29T14:34:41Z")

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> [@MrDibble](#):
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> So’s Ricky WhittleI don’t think [Whittle](http://images6.fanpop.com/image/photos/38700000/Ricky-Whittle-ricky-whittle-38782075-297-446.jpg) could be characterised as “wiry”…  
> I never pictured him as _that_ large. Just buff and tall (Whittle’s 6’2). And he’s supposed to be _ambiguously_ black, which MCD wasn’t.
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> My other favourite choice was Wentworth Miller, but he’s “only” 6’ .

I was commenting on the Lincoln casting option in that bit you quoted, though 🙂  
I think the casting choice of the actual show is damn near perfect. Whittle looks just mean enough to be Shadow on a day somebody pissed in his cornflakes, but with enough softness to him that he could conceivably be Puppy, too. He looks mayyybe a bit too self-assured/not self-conscious enough wrt his bulk, but maybe that’s just the trailer and it’s also just me being overly picky. I’m sure he’ll make a great Shadow.

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**Post date:** [July 29, 2016, 2:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-gods-starz-in-2017/760647/19 "2016-07-29T14:43:09Z")

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> [@TYphoonSignal8](#):
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> Loki, Odin and Thor all appear in The Sandman, but Gaiman would not have been permitted to have explored these characters in a story arc for obvious legal reasons.

Odin, Loki and Thor are historical ‘gods’. They’re public domain as long as he isn’t using someone else’s copyrighted material based on them.
