# American Horror Story: Asylum

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-horror-story-asylum/638152>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [October 18, 2012, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-horror-story-asylum/638152 "2012-10-18T18:40:51Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![What\_the](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f4b2a3/32.png) [@What\_the](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_the)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2013, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-horror-story-asylum/638152/61 "2013-01-06T15:26:12Z")

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> [@DianaG](#):
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> Good lord, Lana Banana couldn’t catch a break with a mitt.
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> Just watched The Coat Hanger and The Name Game, and I could not love this show more. Everyone involved needs aaaaallllll the awards ever, and Jessica Lange needs to be made immortal, because the world should never be without her.

Seriously? This show could be alot better … last year was alot better.

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**Author:** ![DianaG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/7ab992/32.png) [@DianaG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DianaG)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2013, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-horror-story-asylum/638152/62 "2013-01-06T16:15:17Z")

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Last year was a lot _different_, and I loved last year too. If you can’t appreciate the glorious ridiculous surreal insanity of The Name Game, well… there’s nothing to be done for you.

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**Author:** ![jackdavinci](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackdavinci/32/3259_2.png) [@jackdavinci](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jackdavinci)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2013, 4:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-horror-story-asylum/638152/63 "2013-01-06T16:21:11Z")

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Agreed, that will be on my top ten YouTube clips for some time!

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**Author:** ![DianaG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/7ab992/32.png) [@DianaG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DianaG)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2013, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-horror-story-asylum/638152/64 "2013-01-06T17:31:38Z")

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> [@What\_the](#):
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> Seriously? This show could be alot better … last year was alot better.

I do agree that the only thing that might make this show better is an [alot](http://i1.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/007/044/ALOT.png)

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**Author:** ![What\_the](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f4b2a3/32.png) [@What\_the](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_the)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2013, 2:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-horror-story-asylum/638152/65 "2013-01-09T14:58:49Z")

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> [@DianaG](#):
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> Last year was a lot _different_, and I loved last year too. If you can’t appreciate the glorious ridiculous surreal insanity of The Name Game, well… there’s nothing to be done for you.

I loved The Name Game … alot !!! Is that all you got ?.. I expected alot more!

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**Author:** ![Sealemon88](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c68b51/32.png) [@Sealemon88](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sealemon88)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2013, 5:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-horror-story-asylum/638152/66 "2013-01-10T05:39:39Z")

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It’s an amazing train wreck and I can’t look away. As the opening credits were rolling I was commenting to the wife that there’s only a few things they haven’t covered yet. Guess we can scratch off necrophilia now though, huh? Ewww.

I’m really curious about what they have in mind for the next season.

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**Author:** ![Just\_Ed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e19b73/32.png) [@Just\_Ed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Ed)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2013, 2:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-horror-story-asylum/638152/67 "2013-01-10T14:33:26Z")

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The AV Club described the show as “[awesomely crazy shit](http://www.avclub.com/articles/american-horror-story-renewed-for-a-third-season-o,88796/?utm_medium=RSS&utm_campaign=feeds&utm_source=type_newswire)” and that’s one of the best descriptions I’ve seen.

For the third season, Ryan Murphy had this to say to [Entertainment Weekly](http://insidetv.ew.com/2013/01/03/american-horror-story-ryan-murphy-the-name-game-exclusive/):

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> I sorta feel like for the third version I want to do something that’s a little bit more “evil glamour.” Just something that’s a little bit more…one of the things that I missed this season was I really loved having that Romeo & Juliet youth story with Violet and Tate. I want something like that again and we’re doing something like that in the third season. And we’re contemplating shooting the show in a different place. We’re contemplating shooting it in a place in the country where true horror has been. We’ve got lots of delicious plans.

Jessica Lange will return again and has indeed become one of the constants in the series. I’d like to see Lily Rabe back again as well; I thought she was gleefully evil as the possessed nun, and also handled the few instances where meek frightened Sister Mary Eunice managed to break through the possession very well.

I wonder what location Murphy has in mind for the the site “where true horror has been.” Something involving a (real) serial killer?

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**Author:** ![bup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/6bbea6/32.png) [@bup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bup)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2013, 3:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-horror-story-asylum/638152/68 "2013-01-10T15:14:18Z")

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One “gun hung over the mantelpiece” that they haven’t gotten around to firing is that the monsignor was not at all surprised that the asylum doctor was a Nazi war criminal…in fact, her went to warn him that “they were on to him.”

I hope all the actors that have been in both seasons return for a third. Evan Peters is going to have a huge career.

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**Author:** ![What\_the](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f4b2a3/32.png) [@What\_the](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_the)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2013, 2:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-horror-story-asylum/638152/69 "2013-01-11T14:28:52Z")

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> [@Sealemon88](#):
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> It’s an amazing train wreck and I can’t look away. As the opening credits were rolling I was commenting to the wife that there’s only a few things they haven’t covered yet. Guess we can scratch off necrophilia now though, huh? Ewww.
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> I’m really curious about what they have in mind for the next season.

Speaking of ewww … we can scratch off “draining” a “juicy” “double-D” too.

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**Author:** ![Death\_of\_Rats](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a6a055/32.png) [@Death\_of\_Rats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Death_of_Rats)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2013, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-horror-story-asylum/638152/70 "2013-01-11T15:47:19Z")

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> [@Werekoala](#):
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> Too bad they couldn’t get Alan Rickman to reprise his role. (I assume it is a **Die Hard** callout anyway…)

> [@WOOKINPANUB](#):
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> :smack: \*That’s \*where I know that name from! I’ve never seen _Die Hard_  
> but references to the character musta stuck in my brain.

The character’s ‘real’ name is Hans Grüper, not Grueber. Simliar, but not quite the same thing.

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**Author:** ![salinqmind](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3ec8ea/32.png) [@salinqmind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/salinqmind)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2013, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-horror-story-asylum/638152/71 "2013-01-17T17:52:20Z")

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Ok. Pentultimate episode. I couldn’t watch the whole thing, but all I’m really curious about is who or what the aliens are, was that addressed last night?

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**Author:** ![bup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/6bbea6/32.png) [@bup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bup)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2013, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-horror-story-asylum/638152/72 "2013-01-17T18:28:04Z")

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I missed the first 15 minutes, but it sure doesn’t seem like it.

Disappointing episode. I guess Dylan McDermott will be all over next week’s finale.

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**Author:** ![SykoSkotty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c0e974/32.png) [@SykoSkotty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SykoSkotty)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2013, 9:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-horror-story-asylum/638152/73 "2013-01-17T21:38:35Z")

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> [@bup](#):
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> I missed the first 15 minutes, but it sure doesn’t seem like it.
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> Disappointing episode. I guess Dylan McDermott will be all over next week’s finale.

Dylan McDermott or Dermott Mulroney?  
Seriously though, I really enjoyed the episode. The time sequences were really well done, with Jude not realizing it had been years (not days) since Kitt was released. I’m looking forward to seeing how Ryan Murphy ties this whole thing up.

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**Author:** ![bup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/6bbea6/32.png) [@bup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bup)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2013, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-horror-story-asylum/638152/74 "2013-01-17T21:44:08Z")

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> Dylan McDermott or Dermott Mulroney?

I don’t get it.

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**Author:** ![SykoSkotty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c0e974/32.png) [@SykoSkotty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SykoSkotty)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2013, 10:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-horror-story-asylum/638152/75 "2013-01-17T22:23:37Z")

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> [@bup](#):
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> I don’t get it.

[SNL skit explanation](http://www.nbc.com/saturday-night-live/video/dylan-mcdermott-or-dermot-mulroney/1426447/)

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**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2013, 10:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-horror-story-asylum/638152/76 "2013-01-17T22:30:56Z")

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Jude’s madness, especially where the Death Angel (“Now With 80% More Prison Butch!”) and Pepper were concerned, were the best written and realized moments of the show, which lets you know that Ryan Murphy had absolutely nothing to do with them. (I’ve wondered if he and Tyler Perry used the same agent in dealing with Satan.) Her scene with “her story” (_The Flying Nun_) was exceptionally well acted.

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**Author:** ![What\_the](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f4b2a3/32.png) [@What\_the](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_the)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2013, 10:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-horror-story-asylum/638152/77 "2013-01-18T10:28:29Z")

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> [@Sampiro](#):
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> Jude’s madness, especially where the Death Angel (“Now With 80% More Prison Butch!”) and Pepper were concerned, were the best written and realized moments of the show, which lets you know that Ryan Murphy had absolutely nothing to do with them. (I’ve wondered if he and Tyler Perry used the same agent in dealing with Satan.) Her scene with “her story” (_The Flying Nun_) was exceptionally well acted.

I’m not sure what all of that means… but I’m on board if it has anything to do with this season sucking relative to last season 🙂 !!

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**Author:** ![Meltdown](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Meltdown](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meltdown)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2013, 2:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-horror-story-asylum/638152/78 "2013-01-18T14:43:53Z")

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> [@Sampiro](#):
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> Jude’s madness, especially where the Death Angel (“Now With 80% More Prison Butch!”) and Pepper were concerned, were the best written and realized moments of the show, which lets you know that Ryan Murphy had absolutely nothing to do with them.

FWIW, Ryan Murphy was specifically credited as the writer on that episode.

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**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2013, 3:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-horror-story-asylum/638152/79 "2013-01-18T15:37:35Z")

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dupe

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**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2013, 3:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-horror-story-asylum/638152/80 "2013-01-18T15:39:12Z")

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> [@Meltdown](#):
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> FWIW, Ryan Murphy was specifically credited as the writer on that episode.

Judging by his unqualified hackery on _Glee_ and _The New Normal_ it surprises me if he wrote that unaided, but if he did then [insert blind squirrel finding a nut or similar phrase here].

There’s a current thread about the overkill in the movie _Precious_ in which every social problem of the last 30 years manifests itself in one morbidly obese abused teen. This season is to horror what Precious is to melodrama: it’s a total cliche salad that even makes nods to Les Mis (Lee Emerson was originally arrested for stealing a loaf of bread), Kiss of the Spider Woman, and the Singing Nun (her own sort of horror story) amidst the demonic possession, 'Arden: the Mengele Experience", aliens, S&M nuns, Leather Face (how in hell did this season avoid a chainsaw massacre?), Doctor Moreau, and other ripoffs.

The odd thing about it is how much of it worked in and of itself due to good acting- the Sister Mary Eunice and Dr. Arden scenes were some absolutely top notch good acting. I also thought the Anne Frank plot was well done. The only real memorable thing that made the season at all worth watching to me, though, is The Name Game video, the gratuitous Evan Peters nudity (which was all in the first episode), and the likelihood of seeing Pepper costumes at Dragon\*Con this year. (What I most hated was the amount of sexual abuse of women and the borderline snuff film aspect for several episodes.)

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