# American Horror Story: Asylum

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-horror-story-asylum/638152>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [October 18, 2012, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-horror-story-asylum/638152 "2012-10-18T18:40:51Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 10\
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**Author:** ![HookerChemical](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/278dde/32.png) [@HookerChemical](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HookerChemical)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2013, 11:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-horror-story-asylum/638152/101 "2013-01-24T23:09:28Z")

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> [@bup](#):
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> If you have a Nazi war criminal breeding quasi humans in the basement of your insane asylum, they better escape, or attack the patients, or the nuns, or something before the final episode. It’s not fair to just have them contained by the Nazi war criminal until the Nazi war criminal drops them with several quick shots a few episodes earlier and never have any repercussions.

It seems that there were repercussions for the cardinal. It was clearly stated by Lana that bodies were found in the forest. The gun went off, it was just off stage.

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**Author:** ![jackdavinci](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackdavinci/32/3259_2.png) [@jackdavinci](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jackdavinci)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2013, 6:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-horror-story-asylum/638152/102 "2013-01-25T06:29:51Z")

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Wait why are people questioning Lana being in Briarcliff?

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**Author:** ![bup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/6bbea6/32.png) [@bup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bup)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2013, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-horror-story-asylum/638152/103 "2013-01-25T16:09:42Z")

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> [@HookerChemical](#):
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> It seems that there were repercussions for the cardinal. It was clearly stated by Lana that bodies were found in the forest. The gun went off, it was just off stage.

That doesn’t count. You can’t just say, “oh, man, it was really something when that gun went off” inserted at the end.

> [@sampiro](#):
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> If you have a demon who is not only capable of possessing humans but who we know from the first time we see it that it can leap from one human to another when his host dies or is exorcised, it’s unfair just to have it die when it’s next host dies and the angel says “give us a kiss”.

A weak answer is that somebody summoned the angel of death (by writing its name in ancient Aramaic. Not modern Aramaic, mind you, \*ancient \*Aramaic). Sister-Hawtie/Lucifer-himself was pissed and dismayed when she learned about it. Maybe that’s why.

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**Author:** ![catnoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/7ab992/32.png) [@catnoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/catnoe)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2013, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-horror-story-asylum/638152/104 "2013-01-25T16:24:39Z")

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> [@jackdavinci](#):
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> Wait why are people questioning Lana being in Briarcliff?

The scene at the end between Lana and Sister Jude. Why show it again, it was the same scene from the first episode. Only in the first episode it shows Lana trying to sneak back in.

My take was that Lana wrote the book about Briarcliff and to sensationalize it wrote it as if she had been a patient there but by the time the book came out any credible witnesses had died. She knew or found out enough information on the creepy doctor for her book to connect him to the Cardinal so when she went after him for that story he know his time was up.

As for Thredson raping Lana… resulting in Bloodyface… I haven’t worked that one out.

That is my take and reason for questioning Lana being at Briarcliff… I’m waiting for someone to give me a better explanation, in fact hoping for one.

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**Author:** ![catnoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/7ab992/32.png) [@catnoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/catnoe)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2013, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-horror-story-asylum/638152/105 "2013-01-25T16:30:06Z")

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Oh, Oh! As for the Angel of Death taking out the demon… innocent nun possessed by demon managed to hang on to enough of herself to hang on to demon and want release. Angel of Death kisses innocent nun possessing demon, one is saved the other returned to whence it came.

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**Author:** ![Meltdown](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Meltdown](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meltdown)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2013, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-horror-story-asylum/638152/106 "2013-01-25T16:32:06Z")

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I think everything happened pretty much as depicted. The callback to the first episode at the very end was so they could include the line of dialogue about how when you look in the face of evil, the face of evil also looks into you (I don’t remember that part being shown in Episode 1 – especially, with the creepy close-up of Jessica Lange staring directly into the camera – i.e., into us).

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**Author:** ![randwill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/a3d4f5/32.png) [@randwill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/randwill)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2013, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-horror-story-asylum/638152/107 "2013-01-25T16:43:36Z")

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It’s almost like they just wanted to create a provocative television series that was so weird and shocking and gory that more people would watch and that would increase the ratings and then they could charge more for advertising and then everyone involved would make more money. I know that’s a long shot, but it’s possible.

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**Author:** ![TBG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c89c15/32.png) [@TBG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TBG)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2013, 1:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-horror-story-asylum/638152/108 "2013-01-26T01:58:26Z")

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Very disappointing whimper of an ending, particularly the whole alien subplot. Were they aliens? Angels? Highly advanced artificial intelligences? Oh who cares, they just really liked Kit, so they took him with them wherever they go when they aren’t stealing his womenfolk and putting his alienbabies in their bellies.

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**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2013, 6:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-horror-story-asylum/638152/109 "2013-01-26T06:12:30Z")

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> [@randwill](#):
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> It’s almost like they just wanted to create a provocative television series that was so weird and shocking and gory that more people would watch and that would increase the ratings and then they could charge more for advertising and then everyone involved would make more money. I know that’s a long shot, but it’s possible.

So… it’s a profit game.

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**Author:** ![What\_the](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f4b2a3/32.png) [@What\_the](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_the)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2013, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-horror-story-asylum/638152/110 "2013-01-26T15:34:11Z")

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> [@Sampiro](#):
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> As I understand it, the butch prisoner was just a butch prisoner, but Jude was seeing her as the Angel of Death because of her mind unraveling. There wasn’t really any resemblance, but Jude was hallucinating the Angel of Death everywhere.

My bad… she was a prisoner not a guard. Don’t I recall scenes without Jude in which the Angel of Death appeared to others ?

Another question … during the interview Lana admitted that she made up finding Jude in the asylum. Then they showed a scene of the two of them that looked like it was part of the documentary. Are we meant to think that the scene was some how contrived… or was it a flashback scene of something that never happened in the first place?

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