# ‘American Horror Story: Delicate’ - Anyone watching? (No open spoilers)

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**Created:** [September 22, 2023, 2:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-horror-story-delicate-anyone-watching-no-open-spoilers/990542 "2023-09-22T14:41:24Z")\
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**Author:** ![solost](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/solost/32/11776_2.png) [@solost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/solost)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2023, 2:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-horror-story-delicate-anyone-watching-no-open-spoilers/990542/1 "2023-09-22T14:41:24Z")

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So it looks like the first ep of this season has dropped, but I have not seen it yet, nor do I know much about its theme this time. I googled, and apparently it’s about (not really a spoiler, but I’ll blur it just in case): an actress who has trouble conceiving with IVF. Since this is AHS, I’m guessing this will have ‘Rosemary’s Baby’ vibes rather than ‘Lifetime Movie’ vibes. Trivia note: this is the first AHS based on a novel (Delicate Condition).

Past AHS seasons have been hit and miss for Mrs. Solost and me. Some have been campy fun, like ‘Freakshow’ or ‘1984’; some, like ‘Hotel’ or ‘Roanoke’, we just lost interest and totally bailed on mid-season.

The stunt casting with Kim Kardashian is inauspicious. I know stunt casting is kind of this show’s thing: Lady Gaga as a vampire; Stevie Nicks as an actual witch. But, c’mon.

So, anybody catch ep1? Any good? How’s K-Kard’s acting?

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**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2023, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-horror-story-delicate-anyone-watching-no-open-spoilers/990542/2 "2023-09-22T16:07:11Z")

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What I wrote in the “series you have yadda” thread:

The newest season of _American Horror Story_ has started. I can’t tell for sure if it is going to be a good season or a bad season yet based one episode, but all signs so far are pointing to “terrible”.

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**Author:** ![solost](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/solost/32/11776_2.png) [@solost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/solost)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2023, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-horror-story-delicate-anyone-watching-no-open-spoilers/990542/3 "2023-09-22T17:27:20Z")

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> [@Darren\_Garrison](#):
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> all signs so far are pointing to “terrible”.

As I feared. We’ll probably still give it a try. Thanks.

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**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2023, 10:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-horror-story-delicate-anyone-watching-no-open-spoilers/990542/4 "2023-09-28T22:58:35Z")

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Episode two continued to be terrible. I didn’t even finish it, and have bailed on the season.

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**Author:** ![solost](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/solost/32/11776_2.png) [@solost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/solost)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2023, 2:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-horror-story-delicate-anyone-watching-no-open-spoilers/990542/5 "2023-09-29T14:28:38Z")

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Yeah, as I mentioned in my OP, AHS seasons are very hit or miss for us, and this one is starting to look like a miss. We’re not quite ready to bail yet, but that’s probably because we haven’t really found other new good shows to watch as of now.

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**Author:** ![The\_wind\_of\_my\_soul](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecc23a/32.png) [@The\_wind\_of\_my\_soul](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_wind_of_my_soul)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2023, 1:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-horror-story-delicate-anyone-watching-no-open-spoilers/990542/6 "2023-10-02T13:29:37Z")

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Oh, interesting that you all don’t like it. I agree that AHS seasons are hit or miss, but so far I’m invested in the storyline and very much enjoying this season. **Darren\_Garrison** , I’m interested to hear which seasons you’ve enjoyed, and which ones you’ve bailed on. Here’s my list:

Hits:  
Murder House  
Roanoke  
Apocalypse  
Red Tide (part 1 of the Double Feature)

Misses:  
Hotel  
Death Valley (part 2 of the Double Feature)  
NYC

I haven’t watched the other seasons, which is why they’re not on either list.

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**Author:** ![solost](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/solost/32/11776_2.png) [@solost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/solost)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2023, 1:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-horror-story-delicate-anyone-watching-no-open-spoilers/990542/7 "2023-10-02T13:56:08Z")

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> [@The\_wind\_of\_my\_soul](#):
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> **Darren\_Garrison** , I’m interested to hear which seasons you’ve enjoyed, and which ones you’ve bailed on.

Not that you asked _ **me** _, the OP of the gosh darn thread (pouty face), but I’ll share my hits and misses anyway (‘hits’ are the seasons Mrs. Solost and I finished, roughly in order of preference; ‘misses’ we just bailed on):

**Hits:**  
Freak Show  
1984  
Murder House  
Asylum  
Double Feature  
Coven  
Cult  
NYC

**Misses:**  
Hotel  
Roanoke  
Apocalypse

**Jury Still Out:**  
Delicate

Hmm, thought there were more ‘misses’ than that.

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**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2023, 2:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-horror-story-delicate-anyone-watching-no-open-spoilers/990542/8 "2023-10-02T14:00:07Z")

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I watched all episodes of all of the previous seasons (the bulk of them being binge watches starting maybe three years ago). The only one that stands out in my mind as being the worst is the two-parter (both parts). My favorite was probably the witch one (the _first_ witch one, though the second one with the apocalypse wasn’t bad).

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**Author:** ![The\_wind\_of\_my\_soul](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecc23a/32.png) [@The\_wind\_of\_my\_soul](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_wind_of_my_soul)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2023, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-horror-story-delicate-anyone-watching-no-open-spoilers/990542/9 "2023-10-02T15:51:18Z")

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> [@solost](#):
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> Not that you asked _ **me** _, the OP of the gosh darn thread (pouty face), but I’ll share my hits and misses anyway (‘hits’ are the seasons Mrs. Solost and I finished, roughly in order of preference; ‘misses’ we just bailed on):

Haha I actually did in my original comment! But then I saw that you had put some of that content in your OP and thought my question made it look like I hadn’t been listening.

I find it interesting how different everyone’s opinions were. My choices about which seasons I watched were influenced by the recommendations of my then-husband (during the earlier seasons) and my now-boyfriend (during the later seasons). IIRC, my husband recommended Coven over both Asylum and Freak Show. Then when I got with my boyfriend, he insisted that the best seasons for me to watch were Hotel and Roanoke.

**solost** and **Darren-Garrison** , are you men? Just wondering because I suspect that how much we like each season has something to do with how much we can relate to the storyline. Delicate is pretty solidly focused on one (childless) woman in her mid-thirties, and since I’m a childless woman in my mid-thirties, I can relate pretty well. NYC was largely focused on the gay scene in NYC, and since I’m not a gay man (nor am I close to any gay men) and don’t like New York, I didn’t relate as much.

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**Author:** ![solost](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/solost/32/11776_2.png) [@solost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/solost)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2023, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-horror-story-delicate-anyone-watching-no-open-spoilers/990542/10 "2023-10-02T16:26:35Z")

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> [@The\_wind\_of\_my\_soul](#):
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> **solost** and **Darren-Garrison** , are you men? Just wondering because I suspect that how much we like each season has something to do with how much we can relate to the storyline.

Maybe there’s something to this, but for me it’s more about the quality of the storyline. Every AHS seems to be overstuffed with tangents and subplots, and sometimes it just goes off the rails for me. For example, _Asylum_, though I have it listed as a ‘hit’, probably because the series was still new, had devil worship _ **and** _ aliens. Really? Pick a horror theme and stick to it, already.

I was psyched for _Apocalypse_ because I like a good apocalypse drama, but it morphed into something else entirely, and I think morphed again, until I wasn’t even sure what I was watching.

On the other hand, the ones with one main, good story through-line I enjoyed the most. Like Freak Show or the original Murder House. 1984 was a carefully crafted nostalgia watch for my demographic, who grew up on 80s horror films.

For the record, I am a man.

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**Post date:** [October 2, 2023, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-horror-story-delicate-anyone-watching-no-open-spoilers/990542/11 "2023-10-02T16:41:14Z")

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> [@The\_wind\_of\_my\_soul](#):
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> are you men

Yes. (Well, one of them, not plural.)

My problem with _Delicate_ isn’t the character, my problem is with the story: “Is she hallucinating? Is she being gaslit? Is she cursed by a witch? Is she hallucinating because she is gaslit by a witch?” All of those confused moments and time jumps at a glacial pacing was already getting tedious for me in the first episode. The second episode was more of the same, and I have [_no_ interest in watching the same trick playing out over and over for more episodes](https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/EightDeadlyWords).

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**Post date:** [October 2, 2023, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-horror-story-delicate-anyone-watching-no-open-spoilers/990542/12 "2023-10-02T16:46:11Z")

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> [@solost](#):
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> I was psyched for _Apocalypse_ because I like a good apocalypse drama, but it morphed into something else entirely

See, I didn’t really like that one _until_ the call-back twist.

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**Post date:** [October 2, 2023, 4:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-horror-story-delicate-anyone-watching-no-open-spoilers/990542/13 "2023-10-02T16:47:31Z")

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> [@solost](#):
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> d story through-line I enjoyed the most. Like Freak Show or the original Murder House. 1984 was a carefully crafted nostalgia watch for my demographic, who grew up on 80s horror films.

Oh, I forgot that I also bailed on _1984_.

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**Post date:** [October 2, 2023, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-horror-story-delicate-anyone-watching-no-open-spoilers/990542/14 "2023-10-02T17:17:13Z")

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> [@Darren\_Garrison](#):
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> My problem with _Delicate_ isn’t the character, my problem is with the story: “Is she hallucinating? Is she being gaslit? Is she cursed by a witch? Is she hallucinating because she is gaslit by a witch?” All of those confused moments and time jumps at a glacial pacing was already getting tedious for me in the first episode. The second episode was more of the same, and I have [_no_ interest in watching the same trick playing out over and over for more episodes](https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/EightDeadlyWords).

This pretty much describes my problem with it so far. It does not feel like it’s going anywhere yet, and I don’t give a crap about any of the characters.

> [@Darren\_Garrison](#):
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> > [@solost](#):
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> > I was psyched for _Apocalypse_ because I like a good apocalypse drama, but it morphed into something else entirely
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> See, I didn’t really like that one _until_ the call-back twist.

Nah, it was totally bait and switch for me. I was geared up for something epically apocalyptic, _The Road_ meets _The Stand_.

Instead…witches again? 🙄

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**Post date:** [November 18, 2023, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-horror-story-delicate-anyone-watching-no-open-spoilers/990542/15 "2023-11-18T20:39:23Z")

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Did anyone stick with this, and was it worth it?

It looks like the second half of the season will be a different story, right?

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**Post date:** [November 20, 2023, 3:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-horror-story-delicate-anyone-watching-no-open-spoilers/990542/16 "2023-11-20T15:03:11Z")

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No, it cut off mid-story.

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**Post date:** [November 20, 2023, 3:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-horror-story-delicate-anyone-watching-no-open-spoilers/990542/17 "2023-11-20T15:16:59Z")

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> [@Darren\_Garrison](#):
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> Did anyone stick with this, and was it worth it?
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> It looks like the second half of the season will be a different story, right?

> [@The\_wind\_of\_my\_soul](#):
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> No, it cut off mid-story.

Glad to hear that. I was half-watching it with Mrs. Solost while playing games on my iPad; so when I read Darren\_Garrison’s post I thought “_ **did** _ it end, and I didn’t notice?” That’s the level of interest I have in this season, that I thought it possible the story came to an end without my noticing.
