# AMERICAN HORROR STORY Season 3: COVEN (Open Spoilers)

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [October 10, 2013, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-horror-story-season-3-coven-open-spoilers/670891 "2013-10-10T17:15:19Z")\
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**Author:** ![bup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/6bbea6/32.png) [@bup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bup)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2013, 2:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-horror-story-season-3-coven-open-spoilers/670891/21 "2013-10-18T02:23:53Z")

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I loved the morgue scene. It made so little sense, but was so great. And Evan Peters pulled off ‘first day with the new body’ perfectly.

Jessica Lange and Angela Basset’s face-off was great. Just really liking this season.

Also, and it’s really minor - but I think the opening credits are the best of the 3 seasons to date.

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**Author:** ![What\_the](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f4b2a3/32.png) [@What\_the](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_the)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2013, 3:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-horror-story-season-3-coven-open-spoilers/670891/22 "2013-10-18T15:13:35Z")

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> [@Hershele\_Ostropoler](#):
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> So far I’ve seen “embolism pussy”, “cooch of death”, and “killer muff”. 😃

How about Twat of Terror?

On an entirely separate subject (I hope) I wonder what Stevie Nicks thinks of the major references to her?

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**Author:** ![Draelin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ce73a5/32.png) [@Draelin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Draelin)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2013, 3:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-horror-story-season-3-coven-open-spoilers/670891/23 "2013-10-18T15:21:45Z")

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> [@What\_the](#):
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> On an entirely separate subject (I hope) I wonder what Stevie Nicks thinks of the major references to her?

I had been laughing about the use of Stevie Nicks whenever Misty was on the screen, and then she ruined it by actually _talking_ about Stevie Nicks. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Just\_Ed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e19b73/32.png) [@Just\_Ed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Ed)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2013, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-horror-story-season-3-coven-open-spoilers/670891/24 "2013-10-18T16:07:47Z")

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> [@What\_the](#):
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> On an entirely separate subject (I hope) I wonder what Stevie Nicks thinks of the major references to her?

Ryan Murphy knows Stevie Nicks and specifically asked her to use her songs. This exchange is from an [Entertainment Weekly interview](http://insidetv.ew.com/2013/10/17/american-horror-story-ryan-murphy-boy-parts/):

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> **You actually asked Stevie to use her music on the show, right?**  
> Yeah, the whole thing started with the fact that when I was growing up, I was always obsessed with those Stevie Nicks songs like “Riannon” and “Gypsy.” And I remember reading an article where Courtney Love called Stevie Nicks the “white witch” and Grace Slick the “dark witch.” And I have a good relationship with Stevie because of Glee. She is one of the few artists that have come to hang out. She had been writing Lea [Michele] and I regularly since the Cory [Monteith] situation, because she really loved Cory [who passed away in July]. So she’s just a wonderful, wonderful person.
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> When we got to this witch idea, I thought, if you’re Misty and you have grown up alone and you don’t know any other witches, there’s one witch you probably would know and that’s Stevie Nicks. So I called Stevie Nicks and first I said, “I want to use you in the show.” But she was very resistant because from the beginning of her career people who are in the Wiccan community had given her a hard time thinking she was a witch and she got a lot of scary fan letters. She didn’t like the darkness of that, and I explained to her the part and she’s like, “Aw f—, let’s just do it. OK, I love it.” She’s not a witch, but she has an attraction to those mystical creatures because they’re fun to write about. So she gave me the rights to her music and she and Lindsay Buckingham are working on a special sort of redo of a song they did about a witch.

Next episode we have Mare Winningham (in a role Murphy wrote for her) and Patti LuPone guest starring (looks like LuPone will be a recurring character; not sure about Winningham).

This season really is shaping up to be even better than the first, from the quality of the returning actors _and_ the new additions and guest stars, and the storyline as well.

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**Author:** ![Poysyn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/f4b2a3/32.png) [@Poysyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Poysyn)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2013, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-horror-story-season-3-coven-open-spoilers/670891/25 "2013-10-18T17:54:14Z")

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I am REALLY enjoying it so far, and can’t wait for the face-off between Angela and Jessica.

I am, however, a bit bummed that Zachary Quinto is not on it this year. I love him. 🙂

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**Author:** ![GargoyleWB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gargoylewb/32/199_2.png) [@GargoyleWB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GargoyleWB)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2013, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-horror-story-season-3-coven-open-spoilers/670891/26 "2013-10-18T18:32:22Z")

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> [@Hershele\_Ostropoler](#):
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> So far I’ve seen “embolism pussy”, “cooch of death”, and “killer muff”. 😃

I’ve named her Pop Tart.

Mrs G and I just discovered this show and are loving it. We’re watching season 1 concurrently, top-notch scene chewing especially from Lange.

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**Author:** ![TBG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c89c15/32.png) [@TBG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TBG)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2013, 10:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-horror-story-season-3-coven-open-spoilers/670891/27 "2013-10-22T10:40:27Z")

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> [@bup](#):
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> Also, and it’s really minor - but I think the opening credits are the best of the 3 seasons to date.

Certainly the scariest (at least to me).

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**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2013, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-horror-story-season-3-coven-open-spoilers/670891/28 "2013-10-24T16:04:09Z")

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“Yeah, she needs to work on aim”

Mare Winningham giving a handy to her Frankenstein-son is not something you can unsee.

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**Author:** ![bup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/6bbea6/32.png) [@bup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bup)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2013, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-horror-story-season-3-coven-open-spoilers/670891/29 "2013-10-24T16:07:49Z")

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Yeah.

Instead of displaying that “TV - Mature Audiences - contains sexual situations, violence, offensive language” warning coming back from each commercial, it should just say “TV - Just Wrong. Contains every Wrong thing you can think of.”

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**Author:** ![Dogzilla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e480ec/32.png) [@Dogzilla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dogzilla)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2013, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-horror-story-season-3-coven-open-spoilers/670891/30 "2013-10-24T16:30:27Z")

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Did I hear one of the witches calling the other one a “gash”? I nearly died. I haven’t heard that one since my fag-hag days going dancing with my gay friends. _They_ used it as a term of endearment. 😃

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**Author:** ![Just\_Ed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e19b73/32.png) [@Just\_Ed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Ed)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2013, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-horror-story-season-3-coven-open-spoilers/670891/31 "2013-10-24T16:43:25Z")

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The [Tootsie Pop Owl](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZ0epRjfGLw) weighed in with, “Thrrreee. It takes exactly three episodes for _American Horror Story: Coven_ to go completely batshit insane.”

Let’s see, in addition to the camera tricks that seemed to be a little more in evidence this time (odd angles, fish-eye lens, weird perspective), we had:[ul][li]Mother-son incest (er, is it still incest if it’s not really the son’s body?)[_]Semi-consensual Minotaur sex[_]Bizarre pregnancy ritual[\*]Marie Laveau’s evil cackle[/ul]The performances of Jessica Lange, Kathy Bates, and Angela Basset are just incredible. And I thought Patty LuPone in her scene with Lange struck the right tone for her character as well; it will be interesting to see those two spar.[/li]  
Favorite lines:

LaLaurie (Bates), after Fiona informs her a black person is indeed president, and details several other prominent positions blacks have held: “Liiiiieeessss!”

Fiona (Lange), sparring with Joan Ramsey (LuPone): “You know I never understood you bible thumpers and your hypocrisy towards sex. I _know_, behind closed doors, you are the biggest perverts of all.” (Just the way she says this with a satisfied smirk, trying to elicit a reaction, was perfect.)  
“Yeah, she has to work on her aim.”

Madison (Emma Roberts): “He’s so backed up all I’d have to say was, ‘panties’ and he’d jizz his jeans.”

The parallels Fiona saw (and set up) between her younger self and Madison were interesting. I wonder if we’ve seen the last of Madison, though.

And Evan Peters is doing a hell of a job with his character; his shambling Kyle is half Frankenstein’s monster, half confused mute.

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**Author:** ![Dogzilla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e480ec/32.png) [@Dogzilla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dogzilla)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2013, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-horror-story-season-3-coven-open-spoilers/670891/32 "2013-10-24T17:41:49Z")

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Can we just call him FrankenKyle now?

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**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2013, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-horror-story-season-3-coven-open-spoilers/670891/33 "2013-10-24T17:59:22Z")

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One nice thing about a gay executive producer is that I’m guessing we’ll get to see Luke naked. That is one pretty boy.

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**Author:** ![Uncle\_Brother\_Walker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/f08c70/32.png) [@Uncle\_Brother\_Walker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Uncle_Brother_Walker)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2013, 2:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-horror-story-season-3-coven-open-spoilers/670891/34 "2013-10-25T02:14:02Z")

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> [@bup](#):
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> Yeah.
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> Instead of displaying that “TV - Mature Audiences - contains sexual situations, violence, offensive language” warning coming back from each commercial, it should just say “TV - Just Wrong. Contains every Wrong thing you can think of.”

Totally.

Also, I just noticed on that screen (before commercial) there’s a little logo on the bottom right corner. Looks like a pendant of the feminine symbol on a red chain, but I suspect it’s actually something else that I don’t understand.

But, yeah. I’m digging this so far. Creepy intro, great characters, and what is promising to be several great bitch fights. I wonder who will get to choose sides and who will have to make compromises. It’s a keeper on my DVR.

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**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2013, 2:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-horror-story-season-3-coven-open-spoilers/670891/35 "2013-10-25T02:18:22Z")

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> [@Dogzilla](#):
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> Can we just call him FrankenKyle now?

haven’t seen ep 3 yet - but during the morgue scene in ep2, I just kept thinking to myself -

“C’mon up to the lab, lets see whats on the slab”

“I’ve been making myself a man, with blond hair and a tan”

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**Author:** ![randwill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/a3d4f5/32.png) [@randwill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/randwill)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2013, 2:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-horror-story-season-3-coven-open-spoilers/670891/36 "2013-10-25T02:52:26Z")

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I like that a murderous evil witch will not tolerate racism.

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**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2013, 1:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-horror-story-season-3-coven-open-spoilers/670891/37 "2013-10-25T13:58:24Z")

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I just hope that Gabouri Sidibe’s character is not pregnant. Please understand that I personally do not have any prejudice against tortured-slave-turned-immortal-Minotaur/human-witch relationships, but let’s face it: their children don’t fit in anywhere.

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**Post date:** [October 25, 2013, 2:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-horror-story-season-3-coven-open-spoilers/670891/38 "2013-10-25T14:09:51Z")

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How does the Minotaur get around New Orleans? Public transportation?

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**Post date:** [October 25, 2013, 4:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-horror-story-season-3-coven-open-spoilers/670891/39 "2013-10-25T16:59:09Z")

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Personally, I thought all nicknames for semen were used, until Angela Basset said “Baby Gravy.”

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**Author:** ![bup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/6bbea6/32.png) [@bup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bup)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2013, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-horror-story-season-3-coven-open-spoilers/670891/40 "2013-10-25T18:05:34Z")

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> [@Sampiro](#):
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> I just hope that Gabouri Sidibe’s character is not pregnant.

Given that her witch power is being a human voodoo doll, I wonder if that Minotaur found out what it feels like to literally fuck yourself.

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