# American Horror Story --- WTF??? **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [October 6, 2011, 3:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-horror-story-wtf/598752 "2011-10-06T03:19:03Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 12
**Author:** ![bup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/6bbea6/32.png) [@bup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bup)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2011, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-horror-story-wtf/598752/221 "2011-11-18T21:14:31Z")
> [@Oslo\_Ostragoth](#): > > I think that’s it, but it stretches credulity - Constance has a distinctive “Commonwealth of Va.” accent. Constance would disguise her voice. It perfectly fits her character, and she didn’t want Ben to know Tate was her (dead) son. ---
**Author:** ![elfkin477](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a9a28c/32.png) [@elfkin477](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elfkin477)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2011, 9:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-horror-story-wtf/598752/222 "2011-11-18T21:51:27Z")
> [@What\_the](#): > > Constance sure has had bad luck with kids… I wonder what the fourth one is going to be like? Do you really want to know? [spoiler]The 4th kid was another little girl with DS. This is confirmed by her appearance on the AHS website where she’s seen holding Addie’s hand. In the graphic she looks eight or so, and Addie was the age we saw her as present-day. Rumor has it that #3, the boy Beau from this week’s episode, was acused of killing a sister. Since it wasn’t Addie…[/spoiler] ---
**Author:** ![What\_the](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f4b2a3/32.png) [@What\_the](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_the)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2011, 11:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-horror-story-wtf/598752/223 "2011-11-18T23:14:13Z")
> [@Squooshed](#): > > There’s some questions about the timeline that don’t make sense to me, but maybe I haven’t paid attention. > > Tate was killed in the house, indicating Constance was living there then. Constance’s other son was killed in the attic of the house by the burned guy, again indicating Constance was living there. This one implies she was living there after the burned guy fell in love with her. > > ? I assumed that the kid was chained in the attic of Constance’s house next door. Are you sure it was the Murder House? ---
**Author:** ![Just\_Ed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e19b73/32.png) [@Just\_Ed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Ed)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2011, 11:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-horror-story-wtf/598752/224 "2011-11-18T23:43:49Z")
> [@What\_the](#): > > I assumed that the kid was chained in the attic of Constance’s house next door. Are you sure it was the Murder House? Well, he did appear as a ghost (scared the hell out of Violet, then Tate told him to go away), so yeah, apparently it was the Murder House. ---
**Author:** ![What\_the](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f4b2a3/32.png) [@What\_the](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_the)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2011, 3:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-horror-story-wtf/598752/225 "2011-11-19T15:04:49Z")
> [@Just\_Ed](#): > > Well, he did appear as a ghost (scared the hell out of Violet, then Tate told him to go away), so yeah, apparently it was the Murder House. Good point… now I’m really confused about who lived where and when. ---
**Author:** ![elfkin477](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a9a28c/32.png) [@elfkin477](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elfkin477)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2011, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-horror-story-wtf/598752/226 "2011-11-19T16:30:25Z")
> [@Sampiro](#): > > 1994: lived in by Constance until Tate was killed and then by Larry, OR vice versa It can’t be vice versa, can it? If Larry lived their first, he would have already been burned by the time he smothered Beau in the house. ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2011, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-horror-story-wtf/598752/227 "2011-11-19T19:44:37Z")
> [@elfkin477](#): > > It can’t be vice versa, can it? If Larry lived their first, he would have already been burned by the time he smothered Beau in the house. That’s what I couldn’t figure out. Was Larry living in the house when his wife and children died? It looked like the dining room of the house. But it’s strange that Beau would still be there. ---
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2011, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-horror-story-wtf/598752/228 "2011-11-19T19:46:59Z")
I don’t think Larry was living there, i think he was living next door where Constance is now. His burned family hasn’t been seen as ghosts in the house, if they were there he wouldn’t be as interested in it as he is. ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2011, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-horror-story-wtf/598752/229 "2011-11-19T20:04:42Z")
Good point. Still, that’s a hard to follow timeline. Since we’ve learned he hasn’t been in prison, I’m wondering if perhaps he really does have a fortune tucked away that could buy the house if he wanted. True he was going after Ben for a thousand dollars but 1) he’s crazy 2) he already lied to Ben about lots of other things [including living in the house] 3) he lives very modestly and probably doesn’t even need a thousand dollars (especially for modeling shots- he’s deranged, not stupid). If so, I wonder how his fortune will come into play. ---
**Author:** ![elfkin477](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a9a28c/32.png) [@elfkin477](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elfkin477)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2011, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-horror-story-wtf/598752/230 "2011-11-19T20:32:00Z")
> [@Sampiro](#): > > That’s what I couldn’t figure out. Was Larry living in the house when his wife and children died? It looked like the dining room of the house. But it’s strange that Beau would still be there. I think in December, once NaNoWriMo is done and not taking up a couple hours of my time every day, I’m going to sit down and rewatch all the episodes, because I’m finding this show surprisingly difficult to follow. I mean, I was pretty sure that the Halloween episodes didn’t just encompass October 31st, for example, but some insist that Tate and Ben’s coffee date definitely took place on the 31…who knew this would be the sort of show you’d practically have to take notes to keep everything straight? ---
**Author:** ![gonzoron](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a6a055/32.png) [@gonzoron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzoron)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2011, 1:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-horror-story-wtf/598752/231 "2011-11-20T01:17:35Z")
Aha! I think I’ve figured out the timeline a bit. Tate’s killing spree and death were in '94 . Constance had Larry kill Beau, also in '94. BUT the flashback of Larry and his wife wasn’t necessarily at the same time, was it? That could have been long before, sometime in the 80’s, perhaps. So Constance moved next door after killing Moira in the 80’s. Larry and his family moved in. Larry fell in love with Constance, kicked his family out. Larry’s wife burned herself and their kids to death instead of leaving. Constance moves in, bringing her kids with her. Then in '94, both Tate and Beau have their death scenes, which I suppose could be in either order. In other words, pretty much as **Squooshed** described. But the key is that the Larry/Constance/Beau flashback was dated at '94, but I don’t think the Larry/wife/girls/fire flashback was dated. Was it? ---
**Author:** ![elfkin477](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a9a28c/32.png) [@elfkin477](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elfkin477)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2011, 1:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-horror-story-wtf/598752/232 "2011-11-20T01:44:00Z")
> [@gonzoron](#): > > Aha! I think I’ve figured out the timeline a bit. > > Tate’s killing spree and death were in '94 . Constance had Larry kill Beau, also in '94. BUT the flashback of Larry and his wife wasn’t necessarily at the same time, was it? That could have been long before, sometime in the 80’s, perhaps. > > So Constance moved next door after killing Moira in the 80’s. Larry and his family moved in. Larry fell in love with Constance, kicked his family out. Larry’s wife burned herself and their kids to death instead of leaving. Constance moves in, bringing her kids with her. Then in '94, both Tate and Beau have their death scenes, which I suppose could be in either order. > > In other words, pretty much as **Squooshed** described. But the key is that the Larry/Constance/Beau flashback was dated at '94, but I don’t think the Larry/wife/girls/fire flashback was dated. Was it? Larry didn’t have a burned face when he killed Beau. Are you suggesting that he got burned later, not in the fire that killed his wife and children? ---
**Author:** ![gonzoron](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a6a055/32.png) [@gonzoron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzoron)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2011, 2:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-horror-story-wtf/598752/233 "2011-11-20T02:36:02Z")
> [@elfkin477](#): > > Larry didn’t have a burned face when he killed Beau. Are you suggesting that he got burned later, not in the fire that killed his wife and children? Yup. Forgot to mention that part, but yes, that’s what I’m suggesting. ---
**Author:** ![Indygrrl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/58f4c7/32.png) [@Indygrrl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Indygrrl)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2011, 2:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-horror-story-wtf/598752/234 "2011-11-20T02:46:18Z")
I’m still waiting to find out the “doctor to the stars” and his wife did more than just illegal abortions, because the whole idea of them deserving hellish karmic payback because of that is ridiculous. We know doc was a weirdo and liked to huff his own gas, but beyond that what did he do wrong? I’m the type who thinks a doctor helping girls like that is a good thing rather than bad. That is, as long as the abortions were all he did. Again, that’s a detail I hope they touch on. ---
**Author:** ![gonzoron](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a6a055/32.png) [@gonzoron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzoron)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2011, 2:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-horror-story-wtf/598752/235 "2011-11-20T02:56:02Z")
> [@Indygrrl](#): > > I’m still waiting to find out the “doctor to the stars” and his wife did more than just illegal abortions. How about turning his dismembered child into frankenbaby using the heart of one of his patients? ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2011, 3:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-horror-story-wtf/598752/236 "2011-11-20T03:13:03Z")
> [@Indygrrl](#): > > I’m still waiting to find out the “doctor to the stars” and his wife did more than just illegal abortions, because the whole idea of them deserving hellish karmic payback because of that is ridiculous. We know doc was a weirdo and liked to huff his own gas, but beyond that what did he do wrong? I’m the type who thinks a doctor helping girls like that is a good thing rather than bad. That is, as long as the abortions were all he did. Again, that’s a detail I hope they touch on. They never said it, but I got the impression he did more, like maybe kill and rob some of them, or blackmail them if they had any money or fame. His wife said something about “what we did to those poor girls”. I agree that a run-of-the-mill abortionist, even an illegal one [though one who actually knew what he was doing]), wouldn’t have that much to worry about karmically. ---
**Author:** ![Indygrrl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/58f4c7/32.png) [@Indygrrl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Indygrrl)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2011, 3:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-horror-story-wtf/598752/237 "2011-11-20T03:13:21Z")
> [@gonzoron](#): > > How about turning his dismembered child into frankenbaby using the heart of one of his patients? I must have missed them saying that. If he did kill one of his patients for a heart, that would definitely be bad. And making a frankenbaby, well, that goes without saying, lol. Something else that bothers me about this show is the details they made sure to include in the pilot (Vivian’s obsession with organic, natural things, her playing the cello) have never been addressed again. Maybe I’m spoiled from watching shows like Breaking Bad, but when effort is made to emphasize something on a show, I expect to see a reason for it. AH just leaves shit hanging, and that annoys me. And if Constance had one or even two babies with serious problems, why on earth would she keep having them? That’s just sick. ---
**Author:** ![Tangent](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tangent/32/3098_2.png) [@Tangent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tangent)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2011, 3:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-horror-story-wtf/598752/238 "2011-11-20T03:29:50Z")
So, did I miss it or did they never really address the one doctor falling unconscious after looking at Vivian’s sonogram? ---
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2011, 3:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-horror-story-wtf/598752/239 "2011-11-20T03:45:46Z")
> [@Tangent](#): > > So, did I miss it or did they never really address the one doctor falling unconscious after looking at Vivian’s sonogram? They did, Vivian even went to see her. ---
**Author:** ![Tangent](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tangent/32/3098_2.png) [@Tangent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tangent)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2011, 4:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-horror-story-wtf/598752/240 "2011-11-20T04:13:34Z")
Okay, thanks. I must have been distracted by something and missed that scene. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-horror-story-wtf/598752.md?page=11) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-horror-story-wtf/598752.md?page=13)