# American Idol 1/27-29

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [January 27, 2009, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-1-27-29/483256 "2009-01-27T18:26:49Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2009, 6:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-1-27-29/483256/61 "2009-01-29T06:15:44Z")

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I expected Rose the Hippie to leave footprints on their nice, white auditioning stage. Yecch, those were some dirty feet. I bet she smells, too. I liked some of the girls tonight - I am so tired of the Single Mom cliché, though. Yes, you successfully had sex and now you have to raise the consequences, like the vast majority of the population. Doesn’t swing any weight with me. It’s a good thing I can’t vote on this show, because I would vote against any person who is trotting their loinfruit out all the time as a matter of principle.

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**Author:** ![BigBertha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/d78d45/32.png) [@BigBertha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigBertha)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2009, 6:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-1-27-29/483256/62 "2009-01-29T06:30:20Z")

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> [@RachelChristine](#):
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> What happened to bunny guy? Our electric went out for a few minutes. We liked him, but not the actual bunny. (Not that he’s a winner, but we want to see him one more time.)

Ours did too! Where are you?

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**Author:** ![Shayna](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shayna/32/17976_2.png) [@Shayna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shayna)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2009, 6:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-1-27-29/483256/63 "2009-01-29T06:47:40Z")

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> [@featherlou](#):
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> I expected Rose the Hippie to leave footprints on their nice, white auditioning stage. Yecch

Yeah, I found that much more offensive than the arm tattoos **DtC** is constantly calling filthy, season after season. I might’ve given her a pass if she could actually sing, but she was out of tune, warbly, forced and breathy and had a terrible tone. She sounded like a wounded cat or something.

By the way. . . It seems that Frankie Jordan is [this season’s Ringer](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ig7wWnmGZUY) (from the [soundtrack](http://www.amazon.com/Win-Date-Hamilton-Various-Artists/dp/B00016XO60/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1233211557&sr=1-1) of the movie _Win a Date with Tad Hamilton_).

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**Author:** ![Drain\_Bead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e47774/32.png) [@Drain\_Bead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drain_Bead)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2009, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-1-27-29/483256/64 "2009-01-29T15:48:27Z")

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There’s more than one ringer, Shayna. Take a look at Joanna Pacitti’s background.

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**Author:** ![corkboard](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e9bcb4/32.png) [@corkboard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/corkboard)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2009, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-1-27-29/483256/65 "2009-01-29T16:01:27Z")

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Raffi? Dude, c’mon. Seriously.

I found Frankie annoying but I liked her boobies.

I was asking myself, is Rose walking everywhere barefoot? I bet the family that took her into their home just loves that.

I, too, am sick of the single mom pity story line. Congratulations on the choices you’ve made and your ability to pull yourself up by your bootstraps. You get no extra points from me. Now, who’s watching your kid during the months you’re away competing on this show?

Man, the thin skin on these people. You’re crying during the audition and you want to enter the music business? Do you have any clue? No, you don’t.

_Raffi?_

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**Author:** ![Hal\_Briston](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a9a28c/32.png) [@Hal\_Briston](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hal_Briston)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2009, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-1-27-29/483256/66 "2009-01-29T16:49:19Z")

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Anyone else get a major feeling of diconnect from Megan Corkrey?

“Yes, I’m divorcing my husband. So now I’m going to sing _Can’t Help Loving That Man Of Mine_…”

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**Author:** ![RachelChristine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/7ab992/32.png) [@RachelChristine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RachelChristine)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2009, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-1-27-29/483256/67 "2009-01-29T16:54:26Z")

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> [@Tamara+](#):
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> Ours did too! Where are you?

West Virginia, near Huntington. At least we have power though! So many of my friends are staying with relatives or in hotels right now with this weather we are having.

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**Author:** ![DudleyGarrett](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d9b06d/32.png) [@DudleyGarrett](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DudleyGarrett)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2009, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-1-27-29/483256/68 "2009-01-29T16:55:42Z")

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> [@Hal\_Briston](#):
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> Anyone else get a major feeling of diconnect from Megan Corkrey?
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> “Yes, I’m divorcing my husband. So now I’m going to sing _Can’t Help Loving That Man Of Mine_…”

I didn’t get her style of singing. Has anyone heard this song before? Did she sound like it?

It was really screechy and weird.

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**Author:** ![Shayna](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shayna/32/17976_2.png) [@Shayna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shayna)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2009, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-1-27-29/483256/69 "2009-01-29T18:22:27Z")

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> [@Drain\_Bead](#):
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> There’s more than one ringer, Shayna. Take a look at Joanna Pacitti’s background.

I don’t remember her (was she on last night?). [She’s actually not bad](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ebl3li9ilc0). So she’s been [signed by A&M _and_ Geffen Records in the past](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joanna_Pacitti), but still no success? It really makes me wonder what it _really_ takes to succeed in this business. This is crazy.

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**Author:** ![Gary\_T](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/3ec8ea/32.png) [@Gary\_T](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gary_T)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2009, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-1-27-29/483256/70 "2009-01-29T19:36:24Z")

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> [@DudleyGarrett](#):
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> I didn’t get her style of singing. Has anyone heard this song before? Did she sound like it?

“Can’t Help Lovin’ Dat Man” was from the musical “Showboat.” While not as well known as “Ol’ Man River,” also from “Showboat,” it’s not obscure. The judges certainly knew it.

She skipped the verses and sang the chorus. First she sang it as written, then she stylized it with a melody change. Her riff on it was actually pretty good, what one might expect from a competent jazz stylist (as opposed to the mountains-of-melisma approach used by most Idol candidates). This creative approach is what most impressed the judges.

I’d say her voice showed decent potential, but yeah it was a bit screechy and weird.

[Here’s](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y5owzfuvE2k&feature=related) the song from the 1936 “Showboat” movie (there were two other movie versions). The singing starts with the chorus at 1:04 so you can compare, but I suggest watch through to the end, as it gets better as it goes. The final scene is young Magnolia being caught by her superstrict mother cavortin’ with the colored folks, which she has been forbidden to do.

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**Author:** ![Noelq](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/noelq/32/16438_2.png) [@Noelq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Noelq)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2009, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-1-27-29/483256/71 "2009-01-29T20:30:54Z")

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I was very confused over Bunny-guy. I liked the singer’s voice, and he did well on the two songs. Was it just the pictures and the bunny that got him voted off? I disagree with that decision.

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**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2009, 8:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-1-27-29/483256/72 "2009-01-29T20:38:12Z")

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> [@Gary\_T](#):
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> “Can’t Help Lovin’ Dat Man” was from the musical “Showboat.”

The big surprise in the plot of Showboat, that the singer of this song is not 100% white, is given away by the use of “dat” in the title. 🙂

And apparently Randy’s “Obscure & Meaningless Phrase of the Day Calendar” was turned to “jumping off”.

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**Author:** ![gigi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a587f6/32.png) [@gigi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gigi)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2009, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-1-27-29/483256/73 "2009-01-29T20:48:47Z")

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> [@bobkitty](#):
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> I think they sent the Second Chance girl out because it’s (relatively) easy to imitate someone and sound pretty good (as she was doing with Cara), but when you’re asked to be “yourself” it can reveal a lot of vocal issues.

Because of that, I thought they would be less enthusiastic about “Amy Winehouse”, or at least make her sing something else. But they let her right through.

And yeah, I don’t see what Cara adds to the show.

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**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2009, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-1-27-29/483256/74 "2009-01-29T21:27:28Z")

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I must be the only one who likes the bad singers. But I heard nobody so far that will have a career. Nobody was a star in the making. But Idol does produce a lot of losers, even after winnowing them down.

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**Author:** ![Drain\_Bead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e47774/32.png) [@Drain\_Bead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drain_Bead)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2009, 9:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-1-27-29/483256/75 "2009-01-29T21:39:32Z")

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> [@Shayna](#):
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> I don’t remember her (was she on last night?). [She’s actually not bad](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ebl3li9ilc0). So she’s been [signed by A&M _and_ Geffen Records in the past](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joanna_Pacitti), but still no success? It really makes me wonder what it _really_ takes to succeed in this business. This is crazy.

She was also cast in _Annie_ (title role, natch) when she was 12, has been on 5 different movie soundtracks, and was still signed to a record deal as of 2 years ago. She opened for Sheryl Crow, has dated a professional hockey player (and is currently dating a guy from Dancing With the Stars), has done a tour sponsored by Teen People magazine…should I go on?

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**Author:** ![Tom\_Tildrum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e95f7d/32.png) [@Tom\_Tildrum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Tildrum)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2009, 10:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-1-27-29/483256/76 "2009-01-29T22:14:58Z")

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> [@Noelq](#):
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> I was very confused over Bunny-guy. I liked the singer’s voice, and he did well on the two songs. Was it just the pictures and the bunny that got him voted off? I disagree with that decision.

I had the same reaction. I think the guy who brought the bunny might have made it if he hadn’t brought the bunny.

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**Author:** ![Invisible\_Chimp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/f05b48/32.png) [@Invisible\_Chimp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Invisible_Chimp)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2009, 11:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-1-27-29/483256/77 "2009-01-29T23:15:21Z")

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I am so sick of these stupid sob stories. I don’t give a flying fuck if you’re an orphan, you’re going through a divorce, you’re a widow, etc. The only thing I care about is if you can sing. Actually, that’s not true. If you’re female, I care if you’re hot.

So far, my favorite is still Barracuda girl, but I think she is going to have the same problem with middle America that Carly Smithson had: big, ugly tattoos. The girl on tonight’s show with the sleeve won’t have that problem, provided she makes it that far, because her tattoo was actually well made.

Damn, the people in Utah are so fucking nice. Also, the scenery was beautiful. Almost makes me want to move there.

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**Author:** ![Shayna](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shayna/32/17976_2.png) [@Shayna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shayna)\
**Post date:** [January 30, 2009, 12:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-1-27-29/483256/78 "2009-01-30T00:19:34Z")

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> [@Drain\_Bead](#):
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> She was also cast in _Annie_ (title role, natch) when she was 12, has been on 5 different movie soundtracks, and was still signed to a record deal as of 2 years ago. She opened for Sheryl Crow, has dated a professional hockey player (and is currently dating a guy from Dancing With the Stars), has done a tour sponsored by Teen People magazine…should I go on?

I can’t decide how I feel about this.

On the one hand, this is supposed to be a show to find “undiscovered” talent out there amongst the masses. To give people from all over the country who might never have the money, time, resources, etc., to haul themselves out to Los Angeles or New York and figure out how to build a music career from nothing, a shot at the “golden ring”. There’s a charm and appeal to that. It’s what Kelly Clarkson was (though she’d come to L.A. at one point, nothing ever came of it), and the same with Ruben Studdard, Clay Aiken & Fantasia Barino.

But if this show was still attracting the calibre contestants _overall_ that they did in those first 3 seasons, I think I would’ve given up watching long ago. I didn’t see the first season when it ran, but watched it on AI Rewind, and most of those people sucked donkey balls. And wasn’t it season 2 that Simon tormented us with Carmen Rasmussen? That year was only slightly better. What year was Chicken Little and Pen Boy? And as I recall, season 3 was the absolute Worst. Season. Ever.

So that brings me to the other hand – is it really such a big deal that seasoned performers want another shot at the Big Prize after trying and trying and trying for years without that level of success? At least it makes for more pleasant entertainment over the course of the season.

I’ve been composing this thing over the past hour or so, given constant interruptions, and now I think I’m back to wishing they were still looking for “undiscovered” talent.

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**Author:** ![Drain\_Bead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e47774/32.png) [@Drain\_Bead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drain_Bead)\
**Post date:** [January 30, 2009, 1:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-1-27-29/483256/79 "2009-01-30T01:04:32Z")

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This girl is beautiful, but the phrase “Don’t quit your day job” comes to mind.

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**Author:** ![Drain\_Bead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e47774/32.png) [@Drain\_Bead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drain_Bead)\
**Post date:** [January 30, 2009, 1:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-1-27-29/483256/80 "2009-01-30T01:08:52Z")

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Puerto Rico guy is hot as hell (and his boyfriend wasn’t bad either) and was one of the better singers so far this season.

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