# American Idol 2/13--Hooray for Hollywood! **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [February 13, 2007, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-2-13-hooray-for-hollywood/392045 "2007-02-13T18:22:38Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![Biggirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biggirl/32/3294_2.png) [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2007, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-2-13-hooray-for-hollywood/392045/121 "2007-02-15T17:42:45Z")
Went to [Americanidol.com](http://Americanidol.com) and came away with these thoughts: Why don’t they have any singing footage? Pictures and interviews and blah, blah, blah but no samples of the voices behind the faces? That sucks. The Girls I will not be able to tell Alaine Alexander and Amy Krebs apart by looks. I hope one or both have distinctive voices. Gina Glocken is the closest a contestant comes to having a diva attitude and, from what I remember, does NOT have the voice to back it up. Melinda Dolittle and Lakisha Jones will have to fight it out for the big-black-girl-with-voice-to-match place in my heart. Lakisha kinda does look like me if I was younger, darker, with bigger boobies and a flatter stomach. Is Stephanie Edwards the giantess? After reading her interview I got a real churchy vibe. It is evident that Jesus is her homeboy. The other girls? A blank slate. The Boys Sundance Head was the worst Hollywood Week contestant I’ve ever seen get through. He took the spot of one of many other guys who sounded 50 times better than he did. Thus my irrational hate. Sanjay, Paul Kim and Chris have all made positive impressions on me. Brandon Rogers made a negative one. I do not like his nasily, back-of-the-throat voice. All the other guys— sing to me and make me love you! ---
**Author:** ![Biggirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biggirl/32/3294_2.png) [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2007, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-2-13-hooray-for-hollywood/392045/122 "2007-02-15T17:44:56Z")
[QUOTE=McNew] Who is this Tami Gosnell person? I’ve watched all the episodes this season and her name doesn’t stand out. Can anyone identify her for me? [/QUOTE] Pedi-cab girl. The butchy girl with the lip ring. Unassuming with a non-poppy, more rocky voice. ---
**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2007, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-2-13-hooray-for-hollywood/392045/123 "2007-02-15T17:50:43Z")
Here’s Tami’s website if you want to hear her sing. [http://www.tamigosnell.com/home.html](http://www.tamigosnell.com/home.html) ---
**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2007, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-2-13-hooray-for-hollywood/392045/124 "2007-02-15T17:55:23Z")
[QUOTE=Biggirl] Lakisha kinda does look like me if I was younger, darker, with bigger boobies and a flatter stomach. [/QUOTE] I was thinking the same thing about Chris Richardson. He and I would be just alike if I were young, confident, dashing, and talented. It’s _this_ close! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![corkboard](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e9bcb4/32.png) [@corkboard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/corkboard)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2007, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-2-13-hooray-for-hollywood/392045/125 "2007-02-15T18:28:30Z")
[QUOTE=Biggirl] Pedi-cab girl. The butchy girl with the lip ring. Unassuming with a non-poppy, more rocky voice. [/QUOTE] Oh yeah- her. I liked her. A real down-to-earth, Joplin-esque thing going on there. ---
**Author:** ![Dung\_Beetle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dung_beetle/32/7945_2.png) [@Dung\_Beetle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dung_Beetle)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2007, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-2-13-hooray-for-hollywood/392045/126 "2007-02-15T18:48:25Z")
I think we all liked her. Why did they take her away??? ☹ ---
**Author:** ![Nutty\_Bunny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/d07c76/32.png) [@Nutty\_Bunny](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nutty_Bunny)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2007, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-2-13-hooray-for-hollywood/392045/127 "2007-02-15T19:04:28Z")
[QUOTE=Biggirl] I hope he doesn’t turn into this year’s girl with the flower. I’m not good at names, but the second or third idol had a girl who wore a flower and was sooooo petrified. I think people kept voting for her to torture her. Does anyone remember who I’m talking about? [/QUOTE] It wasn’t Jasmine Trias with the flower. It was [**Camile Velasco**](http://www.americanidol.com/contestants/season3/) from season 3. Her performances were painful to watch. She was tortured by the viewers much like the red-headed crooning kid from season 4(?). Every week that he wasn’t voted off, he looked guilty and had an “Oh shit, I have to do this again next week??” look on his face. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2007, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-2-13-hooray-for-hollywood/392045/128 "2007-02-15T19:18:38Z")
[QUOTE=Nutty Bunny] It wasn’t Jasmine Trias with the flower. It was [**Camile Velasco**](http://www.americanidol.com/contestants/season3/) from season 3. [/QUOTE] No, it was Jasmine with the flower, as you can see in the pictures from your own link. They were both from Hawaii, though. ---
**Author:** ![Nutty\_Bunny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/d07c76/32.png) [@Nutty\_Bunny](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nutty_Bunny)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2007, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-2-13-hooray-for-hollywood/392045/129 "2007-02-15T19:25:44Z")
[QUOTE=Diogenes the Cynic] No, it was Jasmine with the flower, as you can see in the pictures from your own link. They were both from Hawaii, though. [/QUOTE] I don’t remember Jasmine being the one that seemed very nervous on stage at all. But I remember Camile having a deer-in-the-headlights look in her eyes. Neither of them were very good. That I DO remember. ---
**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2007, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-2-13-hooray-for-hollywood/392045/130 "2007-02-15T19:26:50Z")
Jasmine had the flower. Camile had the stage fright. ---
**Author:** ![Dung\_Beetle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dung_beetle/32/7945_2.png) [@Dung\_Beetle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dung_Beetle)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2007, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-2-13-hooray-for-hollywood/392045/131 "2007-02-15T19:35:26Z")
Speaking of lame gimmicks, I am not impressed by The Boy Who Will Not Wear Shoes. ---
**Author:** ![Gary\_T](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/3ec8ea/32.png) [@Gary\_T](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gary_T)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2007, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-2-13-hooray-for-hollywood/392045/132 "2007-02-15T19:38:12Z")
Jasmine was kept on for weeks longer than her talent merited by (presumably) dedicated Hawaiians who wanted someone from their state to be there. This was much to the dismay of Simon (and others, including me) who felt it was unfair to some better singers who got voted off. When the pool of contestants got small enough, there weren’t enough people in Hawaii to override the more sensible voters. ---
**Author:** ![OpalCat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/8edcca/32.png) [@OpalCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OpalCat)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2007, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-2-13-hooray-for-hollywood/392045/133 "2007-02-15T19:44:19Z")
[QUOTE=Dung Beetle] Speaking of lame gimmicks, I am not impressed by The Boy Who Will Not Wear Shoes. [/QUOTE] Is he the same as Lucky Underwear Boy? ---
**Author:** ![Nutty\_Bunny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/d07c76/32.png) [@Nutty\_Bunny](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nutty_Bunny)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2007, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-2-13-hooray-for-hollywood/392045/134 "2007-02-15T19:44:30Z")
[QUOTE=Gary T] Jasmine was kept on for weeks longer than her talent merited by (presumably) dedicated Hawaiians who wanted someone from their state to be there. This was much to the dismay of Simon (and others, including me) who felt it was unfair to some better singers who got voted off. When the pool of contestants got small enough, there weren’t enough people in Hawaii to override the more sensible voters. [/QUOTE] Ah, you’re right. I was mixing the two up. Thanks \*\*Dio \*\* and **Gary T**. Anyway, I was blown away by Chris Sligh’s group. I’ve never actually enjoyed the group performances…ever. But that was fantastic. I’m really pulling for Chris to get at least final 2. His “meeting” comment was great. Everyone else goes into the room like they’re walking the plank and he goes in seemingly relaxed and in good spirits. I wonder why we saw nothing of Sexy McJailbait the last two nights. I had almost forgotten about him until about 3 quarters of the way through last night’s show. He and the other person from my area didn’t make it through. Oh well. ---
**Author:** ![Dung\_Beetle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dung_beetle/32/7945_2.png) [@Dung\_Beetle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dung_Beetle)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2007, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-2-13-hooray-for-hollywood/392045/135 "2007-02-15T19:47:45Z")
[QUOTE=OpalCat] Is he the same as Lucky Underwear Boy? [/QUOTE] Yep, I think so. ---
**Author:** ![MilTan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/71e660/32.png) [@MilTan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MilTan)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2007, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-2-13-hooray-for-hollywood/392045/136 "2007-02-15T20:01:09Z")
[QUOTE=jsc1953] The only alternative to a Final Two Deathmatch, though, would be: Male #12 comes down the elevator, gets off & celebrates. Ryan then points to the remaining males in the room…“ok, you & you, in the chairs in the back row – you can go home.” Not exactly dramatic. [/QUOTE] My other problem with this is that when there are three guys left, for example, and one of them gets called up, they immediately know they’re through – otherwise you can’t have the Final Two Deathmatch. Here’s my solution: Call the last three together. You can either have two slots left, or just one. That way the _fourth_ guy left still won’t know his fate, and you can still have the suspense with the last three. > [@](#): > > Did we ever hear BeatBox Guy actually sing? He sang a bit in his audition. There’s also a bunch of clips on YouTube of him, singing. He’s not bad, but I don’t think he has a good enough voice to go far. [QUOTE=Dio] Chris Sligh is married. That surprised me for some reason. I guess I thought he was kind of young but his AI page says he’s 28. Go figure. [/QUOTE] I think the best thing AI did over the last two years was extend the top of the age range to 28. It leads to much more mature and polished singers, which I definitely like. On edit: Looking through the interviews, it’s clear that the guys from the beatboxing group are all pretty good friends; they named each other as their American Idols. Cool 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2007, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-2-13-hooray-for-hollywood/392045/137 "2007-02-15T20:06:38Z")
It’s as bad for the winner as it is for the loser. All the other winners get to celebrate loudly, but the last one is beholden by civility to mitigate his joy. I think it would be fine if they brought them up together to that floor together, but informed them separately. They could use parallel editing to do their TV reveal, keeping suspense until the last moment. Then, they could let the loser go down first. Everybody gives him sympathy. He leaves the building. Winner goes down. Everybody celebrates. Roll credits. ---
**Author:** ![gigi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a587f6/32.png) [@gigi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gigi)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2007, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-2-13-hooray-for-hollywood/392045/138 "2007-02-15T20:19:40Z")
[QUOTE=Biggirl] Sundance Head was the worst Hollywood Week contestant I’ve ever seen get through. He took the spot of one of many other guys who sounded 50 times better than he did. Thus my irrational hate. [/QUOTE] Actually, that sounds pretty rational. That shorter NJ bitch —ARG, there are no words. For her to act like she can sing,…and then “We don’t need to flirt, we can get all the guys we want back home.” Well, that’s where you’re going, bitch-ass; enjoy. ---
**Author:** ![rockle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/73ab20/32.png) [@rockle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rockle)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2007, 9:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-2-13-hooray-for-hollywood/392045/139 "2007-02-15T21:41:40Z")
[QUOTE=gigi] Well, that’s where you’re going, bitch-ass … [/QUOTE] You forgot the “heifer” part. It’s implied, of course, but it needs to be expressed, I think. ---
**Author:** ![xnylder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/bbce88/32.png) [@xnylder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/xnylder)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2007, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-2-13-hooray-for-hollywood/392045/140 "2007-02-15T21:42:55Z")
[QUOTE=Liberal] It’s as bad for the winner as it is for the loser. All the other winners get to celebrate loudly, but the last one is beholden by civility to mitigate his joy. I think it would be fine if they brought them up together to that floor together, but informed them separately. They could use parallel editing to do their TV reveal, keeping suspense until the last moment. Then, they could let the loser go down first. Everybody gives him sympathy. He leaves the building. Winner goes down. Everybody celebrates. Roll credits. [/QUOTE] You’re absolutely right. I remember feeling bad for the last winners picked for exactly that reason. I mean, every other winner got to whoop it up with relief, while these two were pretty much obliged to help the last loser pick up the pieces. And in both cases last night, when the losers went \ bat-crazy, that couldn’t have been a good feeling. Heck, what if either of the losers forgot they weren’t on Jerry Springer and decided to slug the winner in the elevator? I mean, at least the judges got security presence in the audition rooms. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-2-13-hooray-for-hollywood/392045.md?page=6) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-2-13-hooray-for-hollywood/392045.md?page=8)