# American Idol 2/17-18

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [February 17, 2009, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-2-17-18/486288 "2009-02-17T16:50:36Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![tnetennba](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7993a0/32.png) [@tnetennba](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tnetennba)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2009, 2:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-2-17-18/486288/81 "2009-02-18T02:52:20Z")

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I always thought Tatiana was a good singer. It’s the crazy that bugs me, and I don’t even say it to be mean. She’s a deeply troubled young lady and I can’t imagine it is fun to be her. The further she goes in this competition, the more disastrous it will be for her. Even the celebrity she’s attained this far will probably end all hope of her getting perspective and being a normal person.

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**Author:** ![Queen\_Tonya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/4491bb/32.png) [@Queen\_Tonya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Queen_Tonya)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2009, 2:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-2-17-18/486288/82 "2009-02-18T02:57:39Z")

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Like there aren’t plenty of songs written for men?

Great nerd glasses though.

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**Author:** ![Only\_Mostly\_Dead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/f19dbf/32.png) [@Only\_Mostly\_Dead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Only_Mostly_Dead)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2009, 2:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-2-17-18/486288/83 "2009-02-18T02:57:46Z")

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Now time for the love child of Robert Downey Jr. and Adam Duritz.

It’s not just a little shameless to play the “dead wife” card, as sad a situation as it is. I expect he’ll go on through sympathy alone.

The song was competent, but the Unnecessary Key Change and the Belt A Strong Final Note both really ruined things for me.

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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2009, 3:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-2-17-18/486288/84 "2009-02-18T03:00:24Z")

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Danny Deadwife gets the pimp spot.

The more I see of this jack-off, the more I hate him. He’s singing Mariah Carey? What a tool?

More karaoke, but they’ll all pretend it was awesome. I can’t stand this guy. The judges are so fill of crap except for Simon.

This guy probably never even had a wife. He probably made her up.

STFU, Gokey, you’re not that effing inspiring.

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**Author:** ![RachelChristine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/7ab992/32.png) [@RachelChristine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RachelChristine)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2009, 3:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-2-17-18/486288/85 "2009-02-18T03:00:57Z")

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> [@Nutty\_Bunny](#):
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> Isn’t Malone cool? They’ve got a Pizza Hut! Squeeeee!

LOL. We ate at a Kmart deli, but I can’t remember if we drove awhile before eating there, or if it was in town. (I often go to the Pizza Hut when I visit the Wilder Home in Missouri though!) It was beautiful, and I really want to go back.  
It was also my first trip out of the country, and we went through some backwoods border crossing just a few miles out of town to get to Canada. It was different. We didn’t realize it was the Franklin County Fair either, and told we got the last hotel room in town.

HIJACK OVER!

My favorites are Danny, Anoop, Alexis, and Ann Marie, but I bet Tatianna gets through. Hopefully whoever doesn’t get through will come back for Wild Card. I don’t know which three I want to go through!!!

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**Author:** ![Tangent](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tangent/32/3098_2.png) [@Tangent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tangent)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2009, 3:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-2-17-18/486288/86 "2009-02-18T03:01:28Z")

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Here’s how I hope the votes shake out for tonight:

Top guy: Anoop-dawg

Top girl: Tatiana

#3: Anne Marie  
However:  
Ok, Danny Gokey can really sing and will probably make it through, but I don’t find him interesting anymore.

Alexis Grace did really well, maybe better than Anne Marie. But Anne Marie’s hotter.

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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2009, 3:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-2-17-18/486288/87 "2009-02-18T03:03:43Z")

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All in all, this was a pretty shitty group. Amazingly, I think Tatiana was the best singer tonight. I like Anoop, I’d like to give Fowler another chance. Other than that, they can all go back to their day jobs.

Gokey really grates. He’s as full of himsef in his own way as Tatiana is.

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**Author:** ![judikium](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/a9adbd/32.png) [@judikium](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/judikium)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2009, 3:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-2-17-18/486288/88 "2009-02-18T03:06:52Z")

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My favorites were definitely Ricky (who was brilliant) and Alexis. I expect Alexis to get through but Ricky will probably get shafted based on screentime. Anoop (who was disappointingly average) will make it, accompanied by Danny Gokey (who I might like a little more if he hadn’t been shoved down our throats so thoroughly).

If there’s an upset - I’m betting on Tatiana. Oh god. Haha.

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**Author:** ![Risha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/5fc32e/32.png) [@Risha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Risha)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2009, 3:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-2-17-18/486288/89 "2009-02-18T03:11:07Z")

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\<comes in late\>

Wow, that was terrible.

The only ones that qualified as even remotely qualified for the Top 12 were Alexis and Danny and **shudder** Tatiana.

I did find Jackie and Michael moderately tolerable, but they’re never going to make it in a singing career.

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**Author:** ![Jman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jman/32/4416_2.png) [@Jman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jman)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2009, 3:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-2-17-18/486288/90 "2009-02-18T03:13:04Z")

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I liked Danny and (yes, crazy woman) Tatiana the best tonight. She’s a nutcase, but I thought she was fantastic in her performance. She’s certainly got talent. Probably Braddy next. A whole lot of suck tonight, though.

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**Author:** ![DudleyGarrett](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d9b06d/32.png) [@DudleyGarrett](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DudleyGarrett)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2009, 3:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-2-17-18/486288/91 "2009-02-18T03:42:01Z")

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Tatiana was the best, I thought. For the first time, I voted. 6x!

Who I think’ll go through:

1. Danny Gokey
2. Anoop Desai
3. Tatiana del Toro

All well deserved.

(Stevie was a trainwreck!)

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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2009, 3:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-2-17-18/486288/92 "2009-02-18T03:49:27Z")

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> [@cricetus](#):
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> I always thought Tatiana was a good singer. It’s the crazy that bugs me, and I don’t even say it to be mean. She’s a deeply troubled young lady and I can’t imagine it is fun to be her. The further she goes in this competition, the more disastrous it will be for her. Even the celebrity she’s attained this far will probably end all hope of her getting perspective and being a normal person.

After seeing her restraint tonight, I’m starting to wonder if the looney toons act was just a strategy to get on the show. They wanted her to be a crazy performing monkey tonight and she became a competent singer instead.

Anyway, I don’t care what’s best for _her_, I want what maes the best entertainment for me. If Tatiana goes berzerk and cuts up Paula’s face with a nail file, that’s terrible for Paula, but hysterically funny for me.

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**Author:** ![Rachael\_Rage](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/71c47a/32.png) [@Rachael\_Rage](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rachael_Rage)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2009, 4:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-2-17-18/486288/93 "2009-02-18T04:39:29Z")

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> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#):
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> Anyway, I don’t care what’s best for _her_, I want what maes the best entertainment for me. If Tatiana goes berzerk and cuts up Paula’s face with a nail file, that’s terrible for Paula, but hysterically funny for me.

Yeah, I’ve changed my mind too. She was clearly one of the best singers (of the girls, the only one I liked better was Alexis). I’d sooner see her hit the top 12 than 3/4 of the people tonight.

I really like this system of voting. This early in the process there is a lot of chaff to cut through. It will be much more satisfying to see 3 good people make it than see the two most-sucky ones get booted while several equally-sucky people move on. And if “America” gets it wrong we have a chance that the judges can save the best ones that might have had an off night.

Danny Gokey is this year’s Archuleta, but he’s Archuleta with some savvy. He’s undeniably a good singer, but how long will people put up with the overwrought hype? The teenies will all go nuts for him, but for those of us not interested in yet another Michael W. Smith vanilla singer, he’s got a lot to prove. But, like Archuleta, all he needs to do is hang on. He very well could be holding back a little and waiting until it really counts to blow us away with something surprising and cool, but we’ll see. Part of me wants to see him get voted out and take him down a peg, especially since I really want both Ricky and Anoop to squeak through.

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**Author:** ![AngelSoft](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/angelsoft/32/440_2.png) [@AngelSoft](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AngelSoft)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2009, 5:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-2-17-18/486288/94 "2009-02-18T05:50:13Z")

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Ok who was the asshole who prescribed anti-psychotic drugs to Tatiana? She’s SCARY and no fun like this.

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**Author:** ![RandMcnally](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b782af/32.png) [@RandMcnally](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RandMcnally)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2009, 6:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-2-17-18/486288/95 "2009-02-18T06:03:53Z")

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> [@AngelSoft](#):
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> Ok who was the asshole who prescribed anti-psychotic drugs to Tatiana? She’s SCARY and no fun like this.

Her dancing while singing gives me hope, especially that little head bob thing she did at the end of her song, because you can see hints of the crazy in it.

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**Author:** ![Shayna](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shayna/32/17976_2.png) [@Shayna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shayna)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2009, 6:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-2-17-18/486288/96 "2009-02-18T06:11:00Z")

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My top 3

Danny Gokey (who I think is going to win the whole thing)  
Alexis Grace  
Tatiana Del Toro

I know they’re not doing it this way, but the bottom 3 were:

Minnie Mouse Tohn (absolute train wreck top to bottom)  
Stevie Wright  
Stephen Fowler

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**Author:** ![Invisible\_Chimp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/f05b48/32.png) [@Invisible\_Chimp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Invisible_Chimp)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2009, 6:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-2-17-18/486288/97 "2009-02-18T06:15:10Z")

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Danny and the Tatiana definitely make it. Third goes to either Alexis, Anoop, and I like Ricky as my dark horse.

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**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2009, 6:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-2-17-18/486288/98 "2009-02-18T06:20:00Z")

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> [@AngelSoft](#):
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> Ok who was the asshole who prescribed anti-psychotic drugs to Tatiana? She’s SCARY and no fun like this.

My guess was the meds kicked in or she’s on the down part of her bipolar cycle. The “demure” Tatiana was freaking me right the hell out - if I met this girl in person, I don’t think I could get away fast enough. It is a possibility that all the previous stuff was the act, I’ll concede that, though. I guess we’ll find out.

I really like Anoop Dawg, but he was having an off night. Brent Keith was super awful - I would pay money to never have to hear anything like that again (especially since it was country, my least favourite genre). Stevie is a sweet kid, but that blew. Big time.

I thought Alexis Grace, Tatiana, and Danny Deadwife were the best singers and performers tonight. Tatiana makes me very nervous, and Danny makes me want to slap the smarmy right out of him, so can you guys do me a huge favour and vote for Alexis? 🙂

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**Author:** ![Rachael\_Rage](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/71c47a/32.png) [@Rachael\_Rage](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rachael_Rage)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2009, 6:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-2-17-18/486288/99 "2009-02-18T06:39:11Z")

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> [@featherlou](#):
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> I thought Alexis Grace, Tatiana, and Danny Deadwife were the best singers and performers tonight. Tatiana makes me very nervous, and Danny makes me want to slap the smarmy right out of him, so can you guys do me a huge favour and vote for Alexis? 🙂

Done. You’re welcome.

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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2009, 6:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-2-17-18/486288/100 "2009-02-18T06:45:40Z")

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Dialidol is predicting Deadwife, Alexis and Ruffneck. This is going to be a boring season.

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