# American Idol: 2/21

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-2-21/291269>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [February 22, 2005, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-2-21/291269 "2005-02-22T00:42:19Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Queen\_Tonya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/4491bb/32.png) [@Queen\_Tonya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Queen_Tonya)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2005, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-2-21/291269/61 "2005-02-22T15:34:51Z")

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Careful there **Wile E**. I thought the same thing for the last two seasons and then was rudely disappointed in the following weeks. I think it’s just that finally getting to the real singing after all the audition drama, everyone sounds great! Then the flaws really start coming out, or the annoying personalities start showing and what a letdown.

I found myself thinking that way last night but I’m trying to keep my expectations a bit lower this season.

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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2005, 3:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-2-21/291269/62 "2005-02-22T15:45:00Z")

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Did we ever find out if Nikko was the one doing the backflips in one of those collage segments?

Probably not. If he’s going so far as to change his name he must be trying individuate himself from his father.

Plus he’s probably been getting asked if he can do a back flip by everyone he’s met since he was like two. I’m sure he must hate that expectation.

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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2005, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-2-21/291269/63 "2005-02-22T15:47:32Z")

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> [@interface2x](#):
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> They’re quite female 🙂 Two of them he was hitting on directly as he signed their playbills and the other one he was motioning for her to come over - she was more than happy to stay at a distance.

I guess the TWOP rumors were wrong then.

Of course, the posters on TWOP think _everybody_ is gay but with Constantine they at least had those drag pictures to fuel the fire.

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**Author:** ![AwSnappity](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a3d4f5/32.png) [@AwSnappity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AwSnappity)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2005, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-2-21/291269/64 "2005-02-22T17:12:42Z")

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> [@Diogenes the Cynic](#):
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> Did we ever find out if Nikko was the one doing the backflips in one of those collage segments?
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> Probably not. If he’s going so far as to change his name he must be trying individuate himself from his father.
> 
> Plus he’s probably been getting asked if he can do a back flip by everyone he’s met since he was like two. I’m sure he must hate that expectation.

I thought I saw Dezmond (“He did it _better_ than James Brown!”) do a backflip once. I could be wrong, though.

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**Author:** ![gobear](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/8dc957/32.png) [@gobear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gobear)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2005, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-2-21/291269/65 "2005-02-22T17:13:13Z")

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The DC music teacher (Anwar?) definitely pings in the red on my gaydar.

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**Author:** ![tnetennba](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7993a0/32.png) [@tnetennba](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tnetennba)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2005, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-2-21/291269/66 "2005-02-22T17:26:35Z")

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> [@gobear](#):
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> The DC music teacher (Anwar?) definitely pings in the red on my gaydar.

Oh my god! And he works with children! \</mock horror\>

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**Author:** ![Slacker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6bbea6/32.png) [@Slacker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slacker)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2005, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-2-21/291269/67 "2005-02-22T17:28:52Z")

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> [@gobear](#):
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> The DC music teacher (Anwar?) definitely pings in the red on my gaydar.

Really? I didn’t get that vibe at all.

_Maybe wishful thinking on your part perhaps?_ 😉

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**Author:** ![Good\_Egg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/96bed5/32.png) [@Good\_Egg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Good_Egg)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2005, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-2-21/291269/68 "2005-02-22T17:30:50Z")

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Bo was really great, but for the life of me, I cannot remember the song he did. help!

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**Author:** ![Shayna](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shayna/32/17976_2.png) [@Shayna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shayna)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2005, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-2-21/291269/69 "2005-02-22T17:32:16Z")

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> [@Good Egg](#):
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> Bo was really great, but for the life of me, I cannot remember the song he did. help!

Drift Away

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**Author:** ![AwSnappity](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a3d4f5/32.png) [@AwSnappity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AwSnappity)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2005, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-2-21/291269/70 "2005-02-22T17:33:05Z")

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“Drift Away”  
You know…  
_Give me the beat, boys  
and free my soul  
I wanna get lost in your rock 'n roll  
and drift away_

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**Author:** ![Good\_Egg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/96bed5/32.png) [@Good\_Egg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Good_Egg)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2005, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-2-21/291269/71 "2005-02-22T17:47:44Z")

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God. Thanks! It was bothering me all night. 🙂

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**Author:** ![gobear](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/8dc957/32.png) [@gobear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gobear)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2005, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-2-21/291269/72 "2005-02-22T17:50:07Z")

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> [@Slacker](#):
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> Really? I didn’t get that vibe at all.
> 
> _Maybe wishful thinking on your part perhaps?_ 😉

Nope, he is so not my type. Jusat a certain something in his voice.

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**Author:** ![Biggirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biggirl/32/3294_2.png) [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2005, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-2-21/291269/73 "2005-02-22T17:50:28Z")

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Dangnabitt! I missed it.

When I got to work everyone was talking about what a dick Simon was for dissing Scott’s singing. Seriously, everyone was talking about it. That Simon said he sounded terrible but he actually sounded like an angel. Those who vote voted for Scott just because Simon pissed them off so much.  
And I missed it. I’m so disappointed.

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**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2005, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-2-21/291269/74 "2005-02-22T18:04:22Z")

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> [@Biggirl](#):
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> Dangnabitt! I missed it.
> 
> When I got to work everyone was talking about what a dick Simon was for dissing Scott’s singing. Seriously, everyone was talking about it. That Simon said he sounded terrible but he actually sounded like an angel. Those who vote voted for Scott just because Simon pissed them off so much.  
> And I missed it. I’m so disappointed.

Except that Simon didn’t say that. I still have it on DVR, and here is a complete transcription from when Simon (third of three) began his commentary:

Simon: It’s going to be interesting to see what the audience make [sic] of you. I, um, you know I said it when we first met. Um… [pause] you don’t look like an American idol. Um, but you know that. Um, but you have a nice voice…

Randy (talking over): What do you mean, though? C’mon…

Simon: Well, he doesn’t. You work for a record company. You know what I mean.

Randy: I mean, but…

Paula: (stutters, tries to interrupt, but is drowned out)

Randy: …did Reuben? Did Clay?

Simon (talking over): hmmm…?

Randy: Neither one of them looked like American idols either.

Simon: Well, we’ve put him this far. Glad you’re here. Um… it was…

Paula: (laughter)

Randy: (throws up hands, looks away)

Simon: …it was… it was… it was an okay… I mean, it was… it was… it was good. It wasn’t fantastic. Um… [pause] I think you can choose better songs than that. I don’t like the song either.

Paula: Song selection is key.

Randy: Yeah.

Simon: Yeah.

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**Author:** ![PoorYorick](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ecccb3/32.png) [@PoorYorick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PoorYorick)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2005, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-2-21/291269/75 "2005-02-22T18:19:16Z")

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As others have noticed, the selection seems to be much better than the previous years. I mean, there was no one I heard last night that made me think, “How in the hell did THEY get in?”

Bo’s my man. Not only can he sing, his voice has a unique flavor that doesn’t scream Boy Band.

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**Author:** ![Jaade](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/dfb087/32.png) [@Jaade](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jaade)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2005, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-2-21/291269/76 "2005-02-22T18:30:56Z")

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> [@hillbilly queen](#):
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> This was the first time I’ve heard Constantine. How the heck did he make it this far?  
> I expected more out of David.
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> I was feeling sorry for Anwar, because he sounded so bad. Looks like I’m the only one who thought so.

Nope, I didn’t like Anwar’s performance either.  
I expected a better performance from Scott, I really liked Joseph’s performance (but he got hottie points from me, so I may be biased), I didn’t like Mario’s or Nikko’s performances at all.

I loved Bo’s performance! Absolutely and totally. I also think he’s better looking than Constantine, and not so whiny about being the “other rocker”. I have to agree that Constantine’s playing up to the camera was annoying.

And I second the comment about Anwar’s jacket, it was ugly!

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**Author:** ![Jaade](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/dfb087/32.png) [@Jaade](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jaade)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2005, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-2-21/291269/77 "2005-02-22T18:33:21Z")

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Oops! I also meant to mention my favorite girls so far: Mikalah, Vonzell, and Carrie. Carrie is my favorite so far, I love the farm girl thing. 🙂

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2005, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-2-21/291269/78 "2005-02-22T19:01:10Z")

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> [@gobear](#):
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> The DC music teacher (Anwar?) definitely pings in the red on my gaydar.

Time for a “drilling in ANWR” pun yet?

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**Author:** ![ioioio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ioioio/32/316_2.png) [@ioioio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ioioio)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2005, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-2-21/291269/79 "2005-02-22T19:07:38Z")

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> [@Jaade](#):
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> Oops! I also meant to mention my favorite girls so far: Mikalah, Vonzell, and Carrie. Carrie is my favorite so far, I love the farm girl thing. 🙂

Did anyone else notice that Carrie never clapped for the male performers last night? Most, if not all, of the other women contestants clapped enthusiatically. Carrie was sitting prominently in the front row, never clapping. For me, it was a mark against her. Does she think she’s too good to support the other contestants? Maybe she needs to find out what a long walk it is off the stage when the applause is poor.

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**Author:** ![PoorYorick](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ecccb3/32.png) [@PoorYorick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PoorYorick)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2005, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-2-21/291269/80 "2005-02-22T19:46:20Z")

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> [@laina\_f](#):
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> Most, if not all, of the other women contestants clapped enthusiatically.

Not that I was looking especially hard, but all I noticed was the polite debutante clapping (rapidly tapping finger tips of right hand into palm of left hand). 🙂

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