# American Idol: 2/21 **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [February 22, 2005, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-2-21/291269 "2005-02-22T00:42:19Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 16\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2005, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-2-21/291269/81 "2005-02-22T20:06:37Z")
> [@gobear](#): > > The DC music teacher (Anwar?) definitely pings in the red on my gaydar. He’s really really beautiful. Men I find that beautiful always seem to be gay! ---
**Author:** ![tnetennba](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7993a0/32.png) [@tnetennba](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tnetennba)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2005, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-2-21/291269/82 "2005-02-22T20:46:23Z")
> [@Liberal](#): > > Simon: It’s going to be interesting to see what the audience make [sic] of you. You don’t need a “[sic]” here because Simon is British, and in Britain collective nouns do take plural forms. ---
**Author:** ![Slacker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6bbea6/32.png) [@Slacker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slacker)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2005, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-2-21/291269/83 "2005-02-22T21:21:58Z")
Do we need one for “Pauler” and “charismar?” 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2005, 9:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-2-21/291269/84 "2005-02-22T21:28:35Z")
Sucks to your charismar. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![saramamalana](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/74df32/32.png) [@saramamalana](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/saramamalana)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2005, 10:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-2-21/291269/85 "2005-02-22T22:17:33Z")
Got to put my 2 cents in. Scott Savol creeps me the hell out. I won’t deny he’s talented, he absolutely is. However his vibrato, of all things, annoys me. Anwar is a favorite in this house, in part due to the fact that my sister knew him in college (very small school). I was really impressed with what he did to “Moon River” and I hope he goes far. Judd, is that the one who sang “Travelin Band?” Well I think that was an awful choice for him. Any time they showed him singing during previous auditions I thought he was pretty good, but that song was just lousy. Overall, so far I’m rooting for Anwar, Nikko, Mario. I guess I could get on the Bo bandwagon but I wasn’t amazed. I remain open to being swayed! ---
**Author:** ![Proudest\_Monkey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/proudest_monkey/32/13257_2.png) [@Proudest\_Monkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Proudest_Monkey)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2005, 11:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-2-21/291269/86 "2005-02-22T23:44:05Z")
> [@PoorYorick](#): > > As others have noticed, the selection seems to be much better than the previous years. I mean, there was no one I heard last night that made me think, “How in the hell did THEY get in?” Agreed. JPL, anybody? Dip-dancing George? John “Deer in the headlights” Stevens? IMO there wasn’t one male finalist last year that didn’t pretty much suck (especially in contrast to the women), and I think we have a chance for at least 3 or 4 quality men this year. I’ll take Anwar, Mario, Bo and Nikko, though if Constantine makes it, the snark factor will go up. And the snark is one of my top three reasons for watching. ---
**Author:** ![ioioio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ioioio/32/316_2.png) [@ioioio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ioioio)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2005, 3:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-2-21/291269/87 "2005-02-23T03:05:14Z")
> [@Liberal](#): > > . . . I think Scott ought to throw all caution to the wind and sing Unchained Melody . . . That’s a great idea. I’d love to see/hear it. Is there a way to email (or otherwise contact) the contestants? If Scott could nail “Unchained Melody” (and I think he could), it would carry him through for at least a couple of weeks. ---
**Author:** ![tnetennba](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7993a0/32.png) [@tnetennba](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tnetennba)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2005, 3:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-2-21/291269/88 "2005-02-23T03:17:40Z")
John Stevens has an album coming out in April. ---
**Author:** ![tnetennba](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7993a0/32.png) [@tnetennba](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tnetennba)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2005, 3:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-2-21/291269/89 "2005-02-23T03:41:12Z")
Here’s a sample: [http://www.hyfntrak.com/johnstevens/AFF15701/](http://www.hyfntrak.com/johnstevens/AFF15701/) The kid can sing when he’s in his element. ---
**Author:** ![ISiddiqui](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/97f17d/32.png) [@ISiddiqui](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ISiddiqui)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2005, 3:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-2-21/291269/90 "2005-02-23T03:52:11Z")
Yeah, you ain’t kidding… I backed him last season, and with the big band, he sounds absolutely great! ---
**Author:** ![AwSnappity](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a3d4f5/32.png) [@AwSnappity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AwSnappity)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2005, 4:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-2-21/291269/91 "2005-02-23T04:02:52Z")
Wow. I actually enjoy listening to him! Go Baby Conan, go! ---
**Author:** ![kka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/54ee81/32.png) [@kka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kka)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2005, 4:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-2-21/291269/92 "2005-02-23T04:45:44Z")
Did anybody call in to vote tonight? Any contestant lines that were particularly hard to get through on? ---
**Author:** ![Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kolak_of_twilo/32/73_2.png) [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolak_of_Twilo)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2005, 4:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-2-21/291269/93 "2005-02-23T04:57:21Z")
Oh wow, that sounds great! Thanks for alerting us to that link cricetus. ---
**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2005, 11:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-2-21/291269/94 "2005-02-23T11:47:37Z")
> [@cricetus](#): > > You don’t need a “[sic]” here because Simon is British, and in Britain collective nouns do take plural forms. Thanks for that new knowledge! 🙂 I stand corrected. ---
**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2005, 11:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-2-21/291269/95 "2005-02-23T11:49:22Z")
> [@laina\_f](#): > > That’s a great idea. I’d love to see/hear it. Is there a way to email (or otherwise contact) the contestants? If Scott could nail “Unchained Melody” (and I think he could), it would carry him through for at least a couple of weeks. I don’t know, but probably not. They’re probably shielded from outside contact for that very reason — producers want them to use their own wits and talents to compete. But I could be wrong. Maybe check the fan sites. ---
**Author:** ![Biggirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biggirl/32/3294_2.png) [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2005, 12:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-2-21/291269/96 "2005-02-23T12:00:33Z")
> [@Liberal](#): > > Except that Simon didn’t say that. I still have it on DVR, and here is a complete transcription from when Simon (third of three) began his commentary: > > Simon: It’s going to be interesting to see what the audience make [sic] of you. I, um, you know I said it when we first met. Um… [pause] you don’t look like an American idol. Um, but you know that. Um, but you have a nice voice… > > Randy (talking over): What do you mean, though? C’mon… > > Simon: Well, he doesn’t. You work for a record company. You know what I mean. > > Randy: I mean, but… > > Paula: (stutters, tries to interrupt, but is drowned out) > > Randy: …did Reuben? Did Clay? > > Simon (talking over): hmmm…? > > Randy: Neither one of them looked like American idols either. > > Simon: Well, we’ve put him this far. Glad you’re here. Um… it was… > > Paula: (laughter) > > Randy: (throws up hands, looks away) > > Simon: …it was… it was… it was an okay… I mean, it was… it was… it was good. It wasn’t fantastic. Um… [pause] I think you can choose better songs than that. I don’t like the song either. > > Paula: Song selection is key. > > Randy: Yeah. > > Simon: Yeah. Like I said, I didn’t see it. But whatever Simon said he certainly riled up the home audience. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-2-21/291269.md?page=4)