# American Idol 2/29 and beyond. **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [February 28, 2006, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-2-29-and-beyond/346477 "2006-02-28T17:24:38Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 10
**Author:** ![Caricci](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/85f322/32.png) [@Caricci](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Caricci)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2006, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-2-29-and-beyond/346477/181 "2006-03-02T15:33:37Z")
Chris should win. That is all. I’m just here to say I went over to **Biggirl’s** Bush thread and nearly peed my pants and it’s a little early in the day for that! ---
**Author:** ![PoorYorick](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ecccb3/32.png) [@PoorYorick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PoorYorick)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2006, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-2-29-and-beyond/346477/182 "2006-03-02T15:52:00Z")
Am I the only one who thinks Chris looks like [Vin Diesel](http://www.iballer.com/malecelebs/butch_celebs/diesel/images/d11_jpg.jpg)? Could be why my wife gets all hot and bothered when he sings . . . ---
**Author:** ![Millit\_the\_Frail](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/51bf81/32.png) [@Millit\_the\_Frail](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Millit_the_Frail)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2006, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-2-29-and-beyond/346477/183 "2006-03-02T16:06:11Z")
> [@Diogenes the Cynic](#): > > My wife said he sounded better than the actual guy from Fuel. I agree with your wife. > [@](#): > > Are you by chance a woman over 25? Clay Aiken has been successful I’ll grant you that but he very likely won’t reach the popularity and sales of Clarkson over the long run Almost guilty. I’m a woman of 24.5 and was a big fan of Clay back when he almost won. I’ve never bought an album and find everything I’ve heard pretty dull, but he was my all-time favorite contestant. He was really amazing for this sort of competition–fun and entertaining to watch, constantly trying to improve and “step it up,” breaking out from “geek boy” to “lust object” within the space of a few months…no matter what, I just couldn’t take my eyes off him. I think he has “it,” despite the fact that he’s taken his career in a direction that I haven’t been excited to follow. > [@](#): > > Can you believe what Seacrest did to Will (pulled out his shirt when the judges said for him to loosen up!) Then Simon said for Will to “watch out for that Seacrest” or some such. Seacrest just gaped! That was AWESOME. Seacrest was only trying to make a simple point, I think (Untuck your shirt and cut loose!), but he came off as a total child molester, and his face showed this realization when Simon made the comment. I thought I heard it as, “Will, leave the stage now!” Will understood what Ryan meant by it at first, but his expression when he realized he’d just been partially undressed by a small, too-tan, asexual TV show host was all “Oh, Holy Lord! Three weeks out of Texas and older Hollywood men are preying on my poor, young, innocent body already!” :eek: ---
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2006, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-2-29-and-beyond/346477/184 "2006-03-02T16:25:28Z")
> [@Susie Derkins](#): > > Who called it?? Didn’t someone remark on the Chicken Little resemblance? Chicken Little is close; but [Egghead Jr.](http://onefoggy.tripod.com/images/eggjr.gif) (as was previously mentioned somewhere) gets the cigar. Last week, when Simon said that Elliott had the best voice he’d ever heard (or some such nonsense) I had no idea what he was talking about. Now I do. I really don’t like singers who, when the camera is tracking around them, spin around so they can lock into it with their eyes. Creeps me out. ---
**Author:** ![Kalhoun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/3bc359/32.png) [@Kalhoun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kalhoun)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2006, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-2-29-and-beyond/346477/185 "2006-03-02T16:36:14Z")
> [@Only Mostly Dead](#): > > Note to women: Empire waists make you look pregnant more than anything else. Not attractive. Right on. And can we cease and desist, gaucho-wise? Another newsflash: Could the men please change into clothes they haven’t slept in? And try to tuck your pockets in. I know you have a nice ass, but drawing my attention to it via the inverted pocket is just cheesy. ---
**Author:** ![vivalostwages](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d07c76/32.png) [@vivalostwages](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vivalostwages)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2006, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-2-29-and-beyond/346477/186 "2006-03-02T17:21:26Z")
> [@Dolores Reborn](#): > > Chris will be the winner. Smokin’! (If I mistakenly thought Ace might have _it_, please forgive me. > > Can you believe what Seacrest did to Will (pulled out his shirt when the judges said for him to loosen up!) Then Simon said for Will to “watch out for that Seacrest” or some such. Seacrest just gaped! Some local deejays were discussing this issue last week. Seacrest invariably has his hands all over, around, and on the guys, but almost never on the girls. ---
**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2006, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-2-29-and-beyond/346477/187 "2006-03-02T17:26:01Z")
> [@vivalostwages](#): > > Some local deejays were discussing this issue last week. Seacrest invariably has his hands all over, around, and on the guys, but almost never on the girls. Makes sense to me. Suggestions of sexual harassment aginst Seacrest and all the baggage that entails are far more likely, in my opinion, to arise from women than from men. ---
**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2006, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-2-29-and-beyond/346477/188 "2006-03-02T17:27:37Z")
> [@Ensign Edison](#): > > \*Someone explain to me why he needs this show exactly, please? People asked that of Bo too, but it was pretty obvious to me. This I don’t understand. Because a HUGE part of the industry is politics and connections. Lots of egos have to be stroked and lots of palms have to be greased to get records played. ---
**Author:** ![rockle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/73ab20/32.png) [@rockle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rockle)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2006, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-2-29-and-beyond/346477/189 "2006-03-02T17:28:55Z")
> [@Kalhoun](#): > > Right on. And can we cease and desist, gaucho-wise? Seconded, with a great big ol’ “pretty please with cherries on top”? Gaucho pants are hideous and stupid and they make me look like I have tree-trunk legs. Only R. Crumb would find that look flattering on most women. > [@](#): > > _Another newsflash: Could the men please change into clothes they haven’t slept in? And try to tuck your pockets in. I know you have a nice ass, but drawing my attention to it via the inverted pocket is just cheesy._ Or, if you’re going for the grungy look, go whole hog and do “Grunge” circa 1992, with the flannel and the layers and _everything_. (Chris Cornell is, was, and always will be hot-_hot- **hot** _.) ---
**Author:** ![Dung\_Beetle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dung_beetle/32/7945_2.png) [@Dung\_Beetle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dung_Beetle)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2006, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-2-29-and-beyond/346477/190 "2006-03-02T17:34:55Z")
I know Ace can’t sing, but can I keep him just to look at for a while? I’ll be the odd one out, but I’m not a fan of Chris Daughtry. I guess I’m just old, because I don’t care for what passes for “rock” these days. (You know, all these days since like…1990.) He sounds like all the other “rock” singers on the radio, so I’m sure he’s very marketable and he’ll probably win. I’m rooting for Taylor and I know darn well he won’t win, but he’s different, at least. I’m always interested to see what he’s going to do. ---
**Author:** ![kezami](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/eb8c5e/32.png) [@kezami](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kezami)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2006, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-2-29-and-beyond/346477/191 "2006-03-02T18:45:41Z")
Elliot absolutely blew me away with his vocal artistry. His voice is so smooth with a Nat Cole like quality. It would be be a shame if he didn’t end up with a recording contract. Chris has a more marketable showman quality with a rougher edge. That style of music is not my favorite though; I’m a finesse kind of guy. It’s all about the money $$, ain’t it. ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2006, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-2-29-and-beyond/346477/192 "2006-03-02T20:14:19Z")
Will Makar needs to play the Kellie/Bucky naivety card for his own advancement. “Wow, and the guys out here… they ain’t like the guys at home, they’re soooo friendly and touchy feely! And like Ryan, he took me to buy some new clothes and was so interested he went into the dressing room with me! And this other guy who’s a friend of his offered to put me in a movie without any kinda audition at all… something called Bottom Votegetters, so I guess it’s about Idol. But I gotta say that when Ryan took me to this club he said was all about water sports and I went in there expecting one of those Endless Swim machines or something… well, if I don’t never have nothing like that place in my life again I’ll live just fine, no offense Mr. Seacrest!” Makar has terrible posture, incidentally. I wonder if he has back/neck problems. ---
**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2006, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-2-29-and-beyond/346477/193 "2006-03-02T20:17:43Z")
> [@Dung Beetle](#): > > I’ll be the odd one out, but I’m not a fan of Chris Daughtry. I guess I’m just old, because I don’t care for what passes for “rock” these days. Must be something besides age. I’m older than dirt, and one reason I like Chris so much is that he brings to mind the great rockers of the past. ---
**Author:** ![Dung\_Beetle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dung_beetle/32/7945_2.png) [@Dung\_Beetle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dung_Beetle)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2006, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-2-29-and-beyond/346477/194 "2006-03-02T20:36:40Z")
> [@Liberal](#): > > Must be something besides age. I’m older than dirt, and one reason I like Chris so much is that he brings to mind the great rockers of the past. Who does he remind you of? ---
**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2006, 10:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-2-29-and-beyond/346477/195 "2006-03-02T22:19:47Z")
> [@Dung Beetle](#): > > Who does he remind you of? I didn’t mean anyone in particular. By “great rockers of the past” I meant a synthesis characterized chiefly by a high quality tone of voice, an unassuming and straightforward delivery, a love for the craft of singing, and a deep personal understanding of the things he sings about. He’s uniquely himself, but he seems to be from the classic school of rock. ---
**Author:** ![AuntiePam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f19dbf/32.png) [@AuntiePam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AuntiePam)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2006, 10:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-2-29-and-beyond/346477/196 "2006-03-02T22:33:20Z")
> [@Dung Beetle](#): > > Who does he remind you of? He reminds me a bit of Springsteen and Seger. Maybe it’s the growl in his voice. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2006, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-2-29-and-beyond/346477/197 "2006-03-02T22:50:09Z")
He’s got a harder edge than Springsteen or Seger. Is it Simon or Randy who keeps saying he’s “very current?” I think that’s true even if the songs aren’t always current. His voice is very much within the vein of his generation of hard rock- stuff like Tool and Linkin Park. The Fuel song was a perfect example of it. That’s a style that suits him to a tee. I think he would do well to apply that style to some classic rock choices (like he did with “The First Cut is the Deepest”). I just hope he doesn’t do Creed. For some reason I have a foreboding feeling that he’s going to choose “Arms Wide Open” one of these weeks and ruin everything. ---
**Author:** ![Walter\_Windchill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/eb8c5e/32.png) [@Walter\_Windchill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walter_Windchill)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2006, 11:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-2-29-and-beyond/346477/198 "2006-03-02T23:25:39Z")
> [@Sampiro](#): > > Makar has terrible posture, incidentally. I wonder if he has back/neck problems. When he’s at the mike and you see his sillouhette from the side, he looks like Andy Kaufman. I know that’s a weird thing to say, but watch next time and you’ll see what I mean. ---
**Author:** ![Walter\_Windchill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/eb8c5e/32.png) [@Walter\_Windchill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walter_Windchill)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2006, 11:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-2-29-and-beyond/346477/199 "2006-03-02T23:30:28Z")
I don’t know what about this show excites people to put so much spin on their remarks, but I’m not quite ready to annoint Chris The Next Great Rocker because he did a competent mini-cover of a fairly forgettable 90’s song. You know, it’s not that hard to yell-sing the way Chris does. ---
**Author:** ![rockle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/73ab20/32.png) [@rockle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rockle)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2006, 11:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-2-29-and-beyond/346477/200 "2006-03-02T23:48:30Z")
> [@Walter Windchill](#): > > I don’t know what about this show excites people to put so much spin on their remarks, but I’m not quite ready to annoint Chris The Next Great Rocker because he did a competent mini-cover of a fairly forgettable 90’s song. You know, it’s not that hard to yell-sing the way Chris does. He doesn’t have to sing if he doesn’t want to. I’ll just stare and drool anyway. Isn’t that what the producers want? As long as I vote and they get their money … [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-2-29-and-beyond/346477.md?page=9) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-2-29-and-beyond/346477.md?page=11)