# American Idol 2/8: Welcome to Hollywood!!! **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [February 9, 2006, 12:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-2-8-welcome-to-hollywood/343627 "2006-02-09T00:33:36Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2006, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-2-8-welcome-to-hollywood/343627/61 "2006-02-09T16:08:52Z")
> [@Walter Windchill](#): > > Is that Chris, the one Liberal likes? I’m not blown away by him, myself, but apparently he makes the finals. I think it is — even though his baldness is self-inflicted. (On HDTV, you can clearly see the tale-tell coloring of a perfectly decent hairline.) ---
**Author:** ![rockle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/73ab20/32.png) [@rockle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rockle)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2006, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-2-8-welcome-to-hollywood/343627/62 "2006-02-09T16:22:36Z")
> [@yellowval](#): > > It’s beginning to sound like _everyone_ is in the finals! Not _everyone_. I’ll be watching from the couch and text-voting like mad. Or not, depending on who impresses me that night. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2006, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-2-8-welcome-to-hollywood/343627/63 "2006-02-09T16:25:07Z")
Chris is the Christian rocker guy, right? I like his voice but I wonder if he’s a little too edgy for Simon’s comfort. I think his voice is harder-edged than Bo was- closer to true metal than southern rock. ---
**Author:** ![yellowval](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/919ad9/32.png) [@yellowval](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yellowval)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2006, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-2-8-welcome-to-hollywood/343627/64 "2006-02-09T16:36:02Z")
> [@Walter Windchill](#): > > A more important question would be: why is a grown man, at work, researching American Idol finalists? That, I sadly cannot answer. And now my co-workers are wondering why I just spewed a mouthful of water all over the place! Anyway, thanks for the info guys. I’m a total spoiler whore. ---
**Author:** ![KSO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/f07891/32.png) [@KSO](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KSO)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2006, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-2-8-welcome-to-hollywood/343627/65 "2006-02-09T16:49:07Z")
> [@rockle](#): > > Not _everyone_. I’ll be watching from the couch and text-voting like mad. Or not, depending on who impresses me that night. I thought the producers pick the final 24 and it’s only after that that the unwashed masses get to vote… ---
**Author:** ![Wile\_E](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c37758/32.png) [@Wile\_E](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wile_E)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2006, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-2-8-welcome-to-hollywood/343627/66 "2006-02-09T16:56:28Z")
> [@Reloy3](#): > > My take, sorry - I’m not sure of all the names, so: > > The Pickler “Hard-case” girl - I’m in the minority, I like her. I think she comes across as sweet and she can sing. I predict she’ll make the final 12 girls, but not the top 5 after the contestants are combined. I think the hardship angle is being promoted by the editors, so I’ll give her the benefit of the doubt… Yes, I am sure the producers have a lot to do with what is shown and probably encourage her to talk about it so they can tape it but it doesn’t make it any less annoying. I do like her for now, but that is going to get old fast. It’s like the “Fantasia’s a teen mom who loves her baby!” deal from Idol 3. Enough already. > [@](#): > > Garet, the turkey cowboy - I do like his story, and he seems nice, but he looks and acts more like he is 12 than 18. Vocally, he is way out of his league, and should be cut soon. I hope not, though. Mostly because us small town Wyoming ranch kids have got to stick together. (I come from a ranch outside of a town with population 13.) They said to the girl with laryngitis that they judged not only on that performance but their previous one. It was a bad song choice for him but you could still hear a good voice in there. I have to wonder about that cowboy in the dark clothes who sounded awful cheesy and went on anyway. I don’t remember him from the auditions and that was worse than some of those who got cut. > [@](#): > > Grey haired guy - I like him, and I don’t care if he looks a lot older than he really is. But his voice seems more suited to Nashville Star than to American Idol. (For the record, In some ways I like NS better for two reasons. 1) They don’t get far unless they write their own songs and play their own instruments. 2) No age limits. If you’re the best in the field, it shouldn’t matter your age). I don’t think he’s a old as he looks, his hair is grey but his face isn’t, although he could be a bit older than the top age limit. Simon said in an interview before the auditions aired that there could be some surprises, like older contestants. I don’t think his sound would fly in Nashville, he’s more bluesy than country. > [@](#): > > Spasm guy - well, that’s what happens when you use a plane ticket to Hollywood to continue a joke. I was sorry no one else sang “Bat Out of Hell”, though. Garet should have sang that. [soapbox] I still think that Paula and Randy dissed the show and all the good performers that weren’t quite good enough for Hollywood but sending that guy. They deserve all the shit Simon gives them from now on for that crap and they deserve a few swift kicks as well. If the mysterious producers whispered in their ears to send the guy on then they deserve to be exfoliated with cheese graters and dipped in lemon juice. It wasn’t “good tv” it was insulting to the show and if they’re going to start disrespecting their own show in this way then why should we give a shit about it? [/soapbox] > [@](#): > > My favorite? The Bald guy. THe only Male voice that I heard last night that I would vote for in the Finals. If that was Chris Daughtry (I think that’s his name) the guy they showed in the auditions that did his own take on “My Baby Sent Me a Letter”, then I agree. One of the best male voices. ---
**Author:** ![Psycho\_Pirate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Psycho\_Pirate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Psycho_Pirate)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2006, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-2-8-welcome-to-hollywood/343627/67 "2006-02-09T17:09:48Z")
> [@Walter Windchill](#): > > A more important question would be: why is a grown man, at work, researching American Idol finalists? That, I sadly cannot answer. An even more important question would be: why aren’t you using proper etiquette and placing spoilers in spoiler boxes? ---
**Author:** ![Nightingale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/ecae2f/32.png) [@Nightingale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nightingale)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2006, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-2-8-welcome-to-hollywood/343627/68 "2006-02-09T17:24:38Z")
Could somebody explain about the identity theft thing? Was it those self-gratifying goateed egomaniacal twins? Oh, please tell me that they not only get unceremoniously booted from the show, but they land in jail! (Can you tell I hated those guys? Humph. Dissing Carrie Underwood, who could sing either of them under the table with one lung tied behind her back? Creeps.) ---
**Author:** ![yellowval](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/919ad9/32.png) [@yellowval](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yellowval)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2006, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-2-8-welcome-to-hollywood/343627/69 "2006-02-09T17:29:20Z")
[Yep, that was them.](http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/0119061idol1.html?link=rssfeed) ---
**Author:** ![rockle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/73ab20/32.png) [@rockle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rockle)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2006, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-2-8-welcome-to-hollywood/343627/70 "2006-02-09T17:37:25Z")
> [@KSO](#): > > I thought the producers pick the final 24 and it’s only after that that the unwashed masses get to vote… Well, that’s what I meant. Once I can vote, I will. But I didn’t even make it to Hollywood, is my point. (Of course, I’m also old as dirt compared to some of these kids, and as much as I think I’m Aretha Franklin in the shower, I’m probably more like Roseann Barr in real life.) ---
**Author:** ![Biggirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biggirl/32/3294_2.png) [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2006, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-2-8-welcome-to-hollywood/343627/71 "2006-02-09T17:37:50Z")
Who was the guy with the Jesus hair who pulled a Constantine on Paula? I thought she was gonna start humping her chair while he was singing? Did he get through? The only names I know for sure are The Pickler and Paris. Gah! Where’s **Queen Tonya** with her very good notes on who is who when you need her? ---
**Author:** ![Kalhoun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/3bc359/32.png) [@Kalhoun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kalhoun)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2006, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-2-8-welcome-to-hollywood/343627/72 "2006-02-09T17:57:21Z")
> [@Biggirl](#): > > I like the much, much better singing. > > How did that guy with the cowboy hat get through. He was terrible. There’s a shortage of guys, isn’t there? He’s such a heavy dose of “Aw Shucks!” that they couldn’t pass him up. He sang better in the initial audition. Once he gets over his nerves, I think he’ll have some staying power, but there’s no way this kid is the next Idol. I think that black chick with the long curly hair is going to go at least to the final four. In fact, she’ll probably go to the final two. She’s got the look, the stage presence, and the type of voice that sells today. ---
**Author:** ![Kalhoun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/3bc359/32.png) [@Kalhoun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kalhoun)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2006, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-2-8-welcome-to-hollywood/343627/73 "2006-02-09T18:01:56Z")
> [@Biggirl](#): > > Could the instructors be encouraging all that trilling? > > That guy is the next Joe Cocker, I’m telling you. I’m digging him. THAT’S WHAT WE SAID! I loved him. I’d like to see a different kind of talent search. I loved those two Chicago Twins (the ones in the stupid pink pants) when they sang _together_. Independently, they were just OK. But a whole show of couples acts would be great. I love harmonies. ---
**Author:** ![Walter\_Windchill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/eb8c5e/32.png) [@Walter\_Windchill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walter_Windchill)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2006, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-2-8-welcome-to-hollywood/343627/74 "2006-02-09T18:24:07Z")
> [@Psycho Pirate](#): > > An even more important question would be: why aren’t you using proper etiquette and placing spoilers in spoiler boxes? I will certainly start using them now. Sorry. ---
**Author:** ![LilyoftheValley](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/54ee81/32.png) [@LilyoftheValley](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LilyoftheValley)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2006, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-2-8-welcome-to-hollywood/343627/75 "2006-02-09T18:24:10Z")
> [@Kalhoun](#): > > I’d like to see a different kind of talent search. I loved those two Chicago Twins (the ones in the stupid pink pants) when they sang _together_. Independently, they were just OK. I think you mean, “They were just a’ight.” 😃 And, yeah, I was shouting at my screen that Simon was 100% right that I wouldn’t remember the performance in half an hour. Big blah. ---
**Author:** ![Walter\_Windchill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/eb8c5e/32.png) [@Walter\_Windchill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walter_Windchill)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2006, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-2-8-welcome-to-hollywood/343627/76 "2006-02-09T18:25:15Z")
> [@Biggirl](#): > > Who was the guy with the Jesus hair who pulled a Constantine on Paula? I thought she was gonna start humping her chair while he was singing? Did he get through? His name is Ace, and he did make it through. he’s a finalist ---
**Author:** ![Wile\_E](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c37758/32.png) [@Wile\_E](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wile_E)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2006, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-2-8-welcome-to-hollywood/343627/77 "2006-02-09T18:33:02Z")
I’m curious to find if anyone has ever compiled some statistics on how far kids with 3 “yes, absolutely, you’re going to Hollywood” votes do against those that barely squeaked by with 2 yes votes. ---
**Author:** ![yellowval](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/919ad9/32.png) [@yellowval](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yellowval)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2006, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-2-8-welcome-to-hollywood/343627/78 "2006-02-09T19:02:14Z")
> [@Walter Windchill](#): > > His name is Ace, and he did make it through. he’s a finalist He’s the one they were really talking up when the season first started, wasn’t he? I was underwhelmed by his original audition, and apparently missed him last night. My dog had to go to the bathroom. Was he any good? ---
**Author:** ![lissener](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lissener/32/6139_2.png) [@lissener](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lissener)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2006, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-2-8-welcome-to-hollywood/343627/79 "2006-02-09T19:04:40Z")
[Cute.](http://www.garetjohnsononline.com/images/gallerypic10.jpg) [Hot.](http://www.rickey.org/blog/images/2006/02/ace-young-01-2006-2-1.html) > [@Rilchiam](#): > > Patrick Hall. I? Am in love. \*Not. \* ---
**Author:** ![gigi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a587f6/32.png) [@gigi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gigi)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2006, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-2-8-welcome-to-hollywood/343627/80 "2006-02-09T20:40:06Z")
> [@Nightingale](#): > > Could somebody explain about the identity theft thing? Was it those self-gratifying goateed egomaniacal twins? Oh, please tell me that they not only get unceremoniously booted from the show, but they land in jail! > > (Can you tell I hated those guys? Humph. Dissing Carrie Underwood, who could sing either of them under the table with one lung tied behind her back? Creeps.) Yeah, they should at least wait to trash the show until after they are booted off. Nice how they will recommend the other twins to their producer friends; they’ve got juice but somehow still need AI?? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-2-8-welcome-to-hollywood/343627.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-2-8-welcome-to-hollywood/343627.md?page=5)