# American Idol 2/9-10 **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [February 9, 2010, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-2-9-10/528309 "2010-02-09T18:37:40Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2010, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-2-9-10/528309/101 "2010-02-11T17:59:30Z")
That still means they’re not sharing a life, and it still means she gets the shit end of the stick. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2010, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-2-9-10/528309/102 "2010-02-11T18:01:27Z")
I didn’t realize so many people watched this show unironically, by the way. ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2010, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-2-9-10/528309/103 "2010-02-11T18:14:44Z")
But…Kris Allen _does_ kind of look like a monkey. He also did an awesome version of “Ain’t No Sunshine” that I don’t know why I don’t have in my iTunes at this point. I guess when you’re setting yourself up to be noticed by the general public, you sort of have to take the bad with the good - people will notice that you can sing and play guitar really well, and they’ll also notice that you look like a monkey. ---
**Author:** ![Biggirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biggirl/32/3294_2.png) [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2010, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-2-9-10/528309/104 "2010-02-11T18:18:08Z")
I feel bad. All my snarking has driven away good posters like so many Pauler Abduls. . . ---
**Author:** ![tnetennba](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7993a0/32.png) [@tnetennba](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tnetennba)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2010, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-2-9-10/528309/105 "2010-02-11T18:19:59Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > I didn’t realize so many people watched this show unironically, by the way. There’s exactly one hundred billion levels between “watching the show unironically” and “watching the show with uncompromising hatred for every single contestant.” Try any of them. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2010, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-2-9-10/528309/106 "2010-02-11T18:23:53Z")
I don’t hate every contestant. I say good things about plenty of them. ---
**Author:** ![YogSothoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/8edcca/32.png) [@YogSothoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/YogSothoth)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2010, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-2-9-10/528309/107 "2010-02-11T18:25:22Z")
> [@Hazle\_Weatherfield](#): > > I’m really interested in what people think about this. Being there for the kid’s birth is more of a sentimental thing. It’s not like he’s going to remember it. So you wouldn’t really lose much in the grand scheme of things Auditioning for AI, or even some random game show, could provide your family for years to come. And the guy’s a talented singer too, so I say the risk is worth it. If he gets cut next week, he might have some regrets, but the chance to make it big on Idol is nothing to sneeze at ---
**Author:** ![tnetennba](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7993a0/32.png) [@tnetennba](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tnetennba)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2010, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-2-9-10/528309/108 "2010-02-11T18:26:05Z")
> [@Biggirl](#): > > They think (if they are anything but self-involved, selfish clods) that being in this competition will help their children in the long term. I’m sure Fantasia’s daughter likes the 3 squares she now gets provided to her by a mom who can’t even read. > > BUT-- I do not think most of the left behinds get on quite so well. Well, this is where I think a lot of people are kidding themselves. They act like it’s American Idol or nothing, that they can’t just, you know, work hard and get a decent job and be a perfectly happy person with a normal life and provide for their family. It’s sad that people think they either have to be on the fast track to fame and fortune OR they’re doomed. That’s rubbish. No wonder they burst into tears when they don’t make it. ---
**Author:** ![Drain\_Bead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e47774/32.png) [@Drain\_Bead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drain_Bead)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2010, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-2-9-10/528309/109 "2010-02-11T18:26:22Z")
I wonder if anyone has done a site like the Bush = Chimp site, only with Kris Allen. And I’d agree that the level of snark here is MUCH less than it is at TWOP, or God forbid VFTW, who refers to the foster kid as “Little Orphan Tranny.” ---
**Author:** ![Dung\_Beetle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dung_beetle/32/7945_2.png) [@Dung\_Beetle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dung_Beetle)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2010, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-2-9-10/528309/110 "2010-02-11T18:28:12Z")
We burst out laughing when they alluded to a troubled contestant coming up, and it turned out to be the guy who spent a couple of years in jail. Wahhh! I’m disappointed Tourette’s guy washed out already. We’ve enjoyed imagining how his conversations with the judges might go. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2010, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-2-9-10/528309/111 "2010-02-11T18:28:40Z")
I’m Paula Adbdul compared to VFTW. ---
**Author:** ![tnetennba](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7993a0/32.png) [@tnetennba](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tnetennba)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2010, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-2-9-10/528309/112 "2010-02-11T18:28:50Z")
> [@YogSosoth](#): > > Being there for the kid’s birth is more of a sentimental thing. It’s not like he’s going to remember it. So you wouldn’t really lose much in the grand scheme of things Your wife will remember you not being there so you could be on a game show. > [@](#): > > Auditioning for AI, or even some random game show, could provide your family for years to come. And the guy’s a talented singer too, so I say the risk is worth it. If he gets cut next week, he might have some regrets, but the chance to make it big on Idol is nothing to sneeze at So could winning at the track, but I’m not going to miss the birth of my child so I can go bet on the ponies. ---
**Author:** ![tnetennba](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7993a0/32.png) [@tnetennba](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tnetennba)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2010, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-2-9-10/528309/113 "2010-02-11T18:38:16Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > I don’t hate every contestant. I say good things about plenty of them. > [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > You don’t need to defend AI contestants. They’re horrible, awful people. They deserve it. FTR, this isn’t about their feelings. It’s about maintaining a haflway tolerable discussion that doesn’t make a casual poster feel like he’s wondered into a middle school playground and fallen in with the mean, sulky kids. ---
**Author:** ![BigBertha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/d78d45/32.png) [@BigBertha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigBertha)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2010, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-2-9-10/528309/114 "2010-02-11T19:02:48Z")
So what hapens next week? They narrow it down to how many? I’m still recalling the Brettendon brothers, heh. ---
**Author:** ![Biggirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biggirl/32/3294_2.png) [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2010, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-2-9-10/528309/115 "2010-02-11T19:04:06Z")
> [@BigBertha](#): > > So what hapens next week? They narrow it down to how many? I’m still recalling the Brettendon brothers, heh. I think we get some single performances and The Elevator Ride Up To Satan And Down To Hell. Somewhere in there are roomfulls of people getting cut. Again, I THINK we’re getting down to the 24. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2010, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-2-9-10/528309/116 "2010-02-11T19:08:08Z")
> [@cricetus](#): > > FTR, this isn’t about their feelings. It’s about maintaining a haflway tolerable discussion that doesn’t make a casual poster feel like he’s wondered into a middle school playground and fallen in with the mean, sulky kids. Are those quotes of mine supposed to sound contradictory? They aren’t. I do say good things about plenty of them. Frankly, I would find a discussion thread with no snark, and nothing but happy crappy sunshine comments to be anything but tolerable. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2010, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-2-9-10/528309/117 "2010-02-11T19:10:52Z")
I hope they make them duel again when they get to the chairs. That’s awesome. Dance, monkeys, dance. ---
**Author:** ![tnetennba](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7993a0/32.png) [@tnetennba](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tnetennba)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2010, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-2-9-10/528309/118 "2010-02-11T19:13:50Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > Are those quotes of mine supposed to sound contradictory? They aren’t. I do say good things about plenty of them. Read the two quotes again. I guess you missed the part where you said you didn’t hate all of them, but they were all awful people. > [@](#): > > Frankly, I would find a discussion thread with no snark, and nothing but happy crappy sunshine comments to be anything but tolerable. There you go again with the no shades of gray argument. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2010, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-2-9-10/528309/119 "2010-02-11T19:16:28Z")
> [@cricetus](#): > > Read the two quotes again. I guess you missed the part where you said you didn’t hate all of them, but they were all awful people. They _are_ all awful people. Nonetheless, I say good things about plenty of them. > [@](#): > > There you go again with the no shades of gray argument. Why don’t you tell us what the acceptable level of snark should be, then? ---
**Author:** ![yellowval](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/919ad9/32.png) [@yellowval](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yellowval)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2010, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-2-9-10/528309/120 "2010-02-11T19:17:20Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > Are those quotes of mine supposed to sound contradictory? They aren’t. I do say good things about plenty of them. > > Frankly, I would find a discussion thread with no snark, and nothing but happy crappy sunshine comments to be anything but tolerable. I don’t expect the threads to be all sunshine and puppy dogs. I just wish they were more about the actual music than bashing the contestants’ appearance, since it is a singing competition after all. And if people want to say Kris Allen looks like a monkey, fine. But it’s when the same old unoriginal crap gets repeated every single week that it gets old. Kind of like the weekly links to the picture of Nosferatu when there was a bald contestant (can’t remember his name) a few years back. Bwa ha ha, isn’t that funny? It makes me feel like I’m in seventh grade all over again. But the consensus here seems to be, “Hey, we may be mean, but we’re not as mean as those jerks at VFTW,” so I’ll just continue to stay away. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-2-9-10/528309.md?page=5) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-2-9-10/528309.md?page=7)