# American Idol 2

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-2/150135>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [January 22, 2003, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-2/150135 "2003-01-22T02:43:40Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2003, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-2/150135/1 "2003-01-22T02:43:40Z")

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I liked the twins and I hope they will be allowed to compete as a single act. The “Fever” girl had a nice voice but her performance was cheesey as all get-out. None of the guys really knocked me out. All in all this seems like a much staler batch of contestants that the last time around.

And the bad auditions were even worse than last year. I think it’s amazing that those people sincerely seem to think that they can sing. Do they have a different kind of hearing than the rest of us?

So, whadja think?

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**Author:** ![drm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a88e57/32.png) [@drm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drm)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2003, 2:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-2/150135/2 "2003-01-22T02:53:04Z")

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The hairstylist (think she was a hairstylist?) from Conneticut was the only one that stuck out. If I was a betting man, and I am, I’d pick her.

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**Author:** ![js\_africanus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/87869e/32.png) [@js\_africanus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/js_africanus)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2003, 3:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-2/150135/3 "2003-01-22T03:02:16Z")

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I’m betting on the plump black woman with the short blonde hair–the one who’s friends raised money to get her there. But there’s still tomorrow night.

I can’t believe I sat and watched it. It was like trying to look away from a car accident. C’est la guerre.

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**Author:** ![Jurhael](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/cab0a1/32.png) [@Jurhael](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jurhael)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2003, 3:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-2/150135/4 "2003-01-22T03:05:36Z")

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Yea, I liked most of the ones the judges picked. The one that REALLY stood out to me was the big, black, blonde lady. She was a GODDESS! The “Fever” girl should indeed lose the movements, but I LOVED how sultry she was. Unique indeed. I think the girls were generally better than the boys, but I liked the beatbox guy very much and the one who had an “Image” problem.

Of course, I just LOVED the actions of those who were judged rather harshly. Especially the one that FAILED to sing Enrique. Shheesh! Delusional…

Diogenes, I think it’s just difficult for some people to accept that they may not ever fullfil their dreams because of their own limitations. I guess some people would rather just continue to try rather than call them quits. Can’t say I blame them, but I don’t really sympathize when Simon rips them apart.

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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2003, 3:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-2/150135/5 "2003-01-22T03:11:25Z")

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I agree, it would be a kick to see a big woman win, but Simon has a thing about looks. The amazing thing is that if it were up to Simon, Bob Dylan, Janis Joplin, Aretha Franklin, Elton John and patti LaBelle would not have had a chance.

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**Author:** ![BabaBooey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/dfb087/32.png) [@BabaBooey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BabaBooey)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2003, 3:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-2/150135/6 "2003-01-22T03:13:54Z")

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Does anyone know if there’s going to be an encore? I know they had the two Joe Millionaire’s play two days after the second one, so I’m hoping that they follow suit with AI…

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**Author:** ![CrankyAsAnOldMan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crankyasanoldman/32/11670_2.png) [@CrankyAsAnOldMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CrankyAsAnOldMan)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2003, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-2/150135/7 "2003-01-22T03:20:46Z")

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It’s too bad that guy’s slam about british teeth sounded so rehearsed, like he’d practiced it nervously in the mirror a few dozen times too many.

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**Author:** ![Jurhael](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/cab0a1/32.png) [@Jurhael](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jurhael)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2003, 3:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-2/150135/8 "2003-01-22T03:22:21Z")

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> [@](#):
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> \*Originally posted by Diogenes the Cynic \*  
> \*\*I agree, it would be a kick to see a big woman win, but Simon has a thing about looks. The amazing thing is that if it were up to Simon, Bob Dylan, Janis Joplin, Aretha Franklin, Elton John and patti LaBelle would not have had a chance. \*\*

I dunno. He didn’t seem to have a problem with her looks. He did with Tirell, but not her. I guess her strong voice was enough for him to just not worry about what she looks like. I thinked she looked beautiful myself because she was fearless.

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**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2003, 3:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-2/150135/9 "2003-01-22T03:44:55Z")

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The “Fever” girl has stage presence, but her voice isn’t nearly strong enough to win this competition. An R&B/pop oriented competition requires a strong, belted voice, not quiet and sultry. She can’t project, that I can see. She doesn’t fit, but it’ll be a good experience.

The black girl who brought the whole family, like 23 of them, is my early pick. She’s beautiful and she can frickin’ WAIL.

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**Author:** ![LolaCocaCola](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7cd45c/32.png) [@LolaCocaCola](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LolaCocaCola)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2003, 3:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-2/150135/10 "2003-01-22T03:55:40Z")

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What happened to that other dipshit who co-emceed with Ryan Seacliffe?

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**Author:** ![SmackFu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/53a042/32.png) [@SmackFu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SmackFu)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2003, 4:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-2/150135/11 "2003-01-22T04:02:13Z")

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Funny, but so very manipulated. Everyone was either good enough to get through, or laughably bad. They must have weeded out all the actual middle ground before they even got to the real judges. I suppose they did the same thing last year, but I wasn’t paying attention then, dammit!

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**Author:** ![Raymond\_Luxury\_Yacht](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raymond_luxury_yacht/32/4099_2.png) [@Raymond\_Luxury\_Yacht](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Raymond_Luxury_Yacht)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2003, 4:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-2/150135/12 "2003-01-22T04:07:00Z")

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Did anyone else crack up after the box of rocks host asked the Asian contestant if he knew kung fu?

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**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2003, 4:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-2/150135/13 "2003-01-22T04:12:33Z")

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> [@](#):
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> \*Originally posted by RickJay \*  
> \*\*The “Fever” girl has stage presence, but her voice isn’t nearly strong enough to win this competition. An R&B/pop oriented competition requires a strong, belted voice, not quiet and sultry. She can’t project, that I can see. She doesn’t fit, but it’ll be a good experience.
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> The black girl who brought the whole family, like 23 of them, is my early pick. She’s beautiful and she can frickin’ WAIL. \*\*

I’m not entirely sold on the Fever girl either. She sang the song so quiet and low, I couldn’t really even tell if she _could_ sing. I kept waiting for her to belt something out, but it never happened.

Her singing:Big black girl’s singing :: Cute:Beautiful

Don’t get me wrong, I _looove_ cute. I just don’t think cute’s gonna cut it here.  
**Lola** , he quit. Brian Dunkleman was his name.  
Happy

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**Author:** ![Cholo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/58f4c7/32.png) [@Cholo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cholo)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2003, 4:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-2/150135/14 "2003-01-22T04:16:21Z")

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My personal fave was the Mack Daddy from Kansas with the yellow pimp suit who friggin’ **CRIED** when all his dreams went up in smoke. AND he was looking for a way home to boot.

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**Author:** ![LolaCocaCola](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7cd45c/32.png) [@LolaCocaCola](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LolaCocaCola)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2003, 4:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-2/150135/15 "2003-01-22T04:26:30Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Happy Lendervedder \*  
> **Lola, he quit. Brian Dunkleman was his name.**

Heh.

You know it’s gotta be bad if an obscure nobody quits a primetime gig.

:dubious:

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**Author:** ![interface2x](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/c0e974/32.png) [@interface2x](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/interface2x)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2003, 4:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-2/150135/16 "2003-01-22T04:28:57Z")

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Wow, I saw _so_ many wannabe actors, it’s not even funny. Does anybody really think Enrique there thinks he can sing? Of course not. He just knew what to do to get on tv and open up a door or two. Same goes with all of the other SUPER terrible people - they’re not that stupid. They just saw what got on the air last season.

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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2003, 4:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-2/150135/17 "2003-01-22T04:36:24Z")

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> Did anyone else crack up after the box of rocks host asked the Asian contestant if he knew kung fu?

I winced at that question. The Asian guy didn’t seem to get offended though, even though he had every right to.

**smackFu** , I think that the auditions are pretty much open to everybody. They just edit out all the boring, middle ground stuff because it’s not that interesting.

I thought the guy who sang “Just Once” had a great voice, even though Simon carped about his looks.

What was with that girl who sang the Quaalude version of “Unchained Melody?” The look of intense pain on the faces of the judges was priceless.

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**Author:** ![js\_africanus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/87869e/32.png) [@js\_africanus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/js_africanus)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2003, 4:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-2/150135/18 "2003-01-22T04:38:53Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Jurhael \*  
> \*\*I dunno. He didn’t seem to have a problem with her looks. He did with Tirell, but not her. I guess her strong voice was enough for him to just not worry about what she looks like. I thinked she looked beautiful myself because she was fearless. \*\*

I wouldn’t agree with beautiful, but she definately had the best presence. She’s a pro. If she doesn’t end up famous after this I’d be suprised.

I wish they’d get some other types. They had on Sinatra (sp?) wannbe and that fever chick. The rest were the same R&B vocal-stylings crap. I almost cried when a Sarah McLachlan song got turned into a whoose R&B fiasco. No offense.

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**Author:** ![Jurhael](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/cab0a1/32.png) [@Jurhael](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jurhael)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2003, 4:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-2/150135/19 "2003-01-22T04:43:10Z")

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Not to mention the scenery of seasons changing and a baby yawning! AHHAAHHAH!!

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**Author:** ![Civil\_Defense](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ccd318/32.png) [@Civil\_Defense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Civil_Defense)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2003, 5:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-2/150135/20 "2003-01-22T05:09:41Z")

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My personal favorite was Julie, the girl who sang “Unbreak My Heart”. She was good… I hope she makes it into the semi-finals.

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