# American Idol - 21, 22, 23 Feb **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [February 21, 2006, 9:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-21-22-23-feb/345532 "2006-02-21T21:48:40Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 18
**Author:** ![KarlGrenze](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/dbc845/32.png) [@KarlGrenze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KarlGrenze)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2006, 1:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-21-22-23-feb/345532/341 "2006-02-24T01:56:34Z")
Patrick left??? That is a shame! ---
**Author:** ![Rachael\_Rage](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/71c47a/32.png) [@Rachael\_Rage](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rachael_Rage)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2006, 1:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-21-22-23-feb/345532/342 "2006-02-24T01:58:03Z")
Crapola. I liked Patrick, and he’s such a good sport. Simon’s right though, he doesn’t stand out enough. I would have seen David go before Patrick, but oh well. ---
**Author:** ![Biggirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biggirl/32/3294_2.png) [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2006, 1:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-21-22-23-feb/345532/343 "2006-02-24T01:58:04Z")
I liked him. At least Kevin is stilll there for me to hope goes before anyone else. ---
**Author:** ![marymargaret](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba9def/32.png) [@marymargaret](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/marymargaret)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2006, 1:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-21-22-23-feb/345532/344 "2006-02-24T01:58:27Z")
> [@Walter Windchill](#): > > The people who would vote for her based on her looks don’t vote at all. touche! ---
**Author:** ![rockle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/73ab20/32.png) [@rockle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rockle)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2006, 2:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-21-22-23-feb/345532/345 "2006-02-24T02:01:12Z")
Wait, did they _really_ only send one person of each gender home? (I was watching Survivor, even though I should have gone to bed _hours ago_ because I am an old woman and this 2-hrs-per-night thing is killing me.) ---
**Author:** ![lissener](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lissener/32/6139_2.png) [@lissener](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lissener)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2006, 2:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-21-22-23-feb/345532/346 "2006-02-24T02:02:00Z")
> [@Diogenes the Cynic](#): > > I am already sick to the gills of Ace doing that thing where he points at the camera and then thumps his chest. Hey, if it’s good enough for Celine Dion . . . ---
**Author:** ![Biggirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biggirl/32/3294_2.png) [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2006, 2:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-21-22-23-feb/345532/347 "2006-02-24T02:05:03Z")
> [@rockle](#): > > Wait, did they _really_ only send one person of each gender home? (I was watching Survivor, even though I should have gone to bed _hours ago_ because I am an old woman and this 2-hrs-per-night thing is killing me.) Two of each gender went. Stevie and Becky and Patrick and Bobby. She posts knowing at least 3 people will beat her to the punch. ---
**Author:** ![Rachael\_Rage](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/71c47a/32.png) [@Rachael\_Rage](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rachael_Rage)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2006, 2:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-21-22-23-feb/345532/348 "2006-02-24T02:05:53Z")
> [@rockle](#): > > Wait, did they _really_ only send one person of each gender home? (I was watching Survivor, even though I should have gone to bed _hours ago_ because I am an old woman and this 2-hrs-per-night thing is killing me.) Girls gone: Becky & Stevie Boys gone: Bobby & Patrick They just drew out the announcements throughout the show, thus the confusion. ---
**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2006, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-21-22-23-feb/345532/349 "2006-02-24T02:08:59Z")
It was two people of each… oh, nevermind. ---
**Author:** ![rockle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/73ab20/32.png) [@rockle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rockle)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2006, 2:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-21-22-23-feb/345532/350 "2006-02-24T02:12:34Z")
> [@Biggirl](#): > > Two of each gender went. Stevie and Becky and Patrick and Bobby. > [@vaderspal](#): > > Girls gone: Becky & Stevie > Boys gone: Bobby & Patrick _Thanks!_ I was very confused. 😕 See. Let this be a lesson to you all: This is what happens when your life is reality television and you have to go to the bathroom 22 minutes into Survivor. I was screwed up for the rest of the show and thus couldn’t flip back to Idol to see who was out. Saw Becky coming, and saw Patrick leave, but missed the middle. Poor Stevie – they really ought not screw with people like that. She looked like she was going to hurl when they did the announcement of the 1st “bottom 3 girls.” ---
**Author:** ![Lama\_Pacos](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/d6d6ee/32.png) [@Lama\_Pacos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lama_Pacos)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2006, 2:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-21-22-23-feb/345532/351 "2006-02-24T02:12:42Z")
Color me surprised about Becky O’Donohue. I would have thought good looks and an interesting, not-bad voice would be enough to at least make it further than the memorability black holes called “Heather” and “Melissa”. I predicted that Stevie would be leaving, and by her own fault, but man, where was her performance tonight on Tuesday? She was definitely not bad tonight. Bobby-- predicted him out and his performance last night was ghastly. Don’t get me wrong, he did great at what he was doing, but I have no idea what possessed him to do it. I understand why Patrick was kicked, but like Stevie, I think he sounded a lot better tonight. If tonight had been Tuesday, I think he’d still be in. I predicted Gedeon would be out, but I think I was too harsh on him-- the band gave him an awful, soul-sucked arrangement of “Shout” that was practically unredeemable. I don’t think the importance of the band should be underestimated. The arrangements range from passable to atrocious, and a song that can weather a bad arrangement will, I think, fare much better. On another note, does anyone think Ryan seems to be getting bitter and restless? P.S. I love Brenna! That duck thing was great. Really cute. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2006, 2:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-21-22-23-feb/345532/352 "2006-02-24T02:14:05Z")
The only one I’m kind of surprised about is Patrick. He seemed to have the makeup to last for a while. Non-threatening, boy band looks. Decent personality. A better singer than at least five of the other males. I guess he just got overlooked. I only slightly surprised that Brenna survived. I think she might have benefitted from the voting format. I like her for some reason but if you could vote for who you wanted out I have a feeling she would have been gone in a landslide. ---
**Author:** ![Biggirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biggirl/32/3294_2.png) [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2006, 2:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-21-22-23-feb/345532/353 "2006-02-24T02:16:32Z")
> [@Lama Pacos](#): > > On another note, does anyone think Ryan seems to be getting bitter and restless? Oh, _that’s_ why I’m digging him this season! ---
**Author:** ![Lama\_Pacos](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/d6d6ee/32.png) [@Lama\_Pacos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lama_Pacos)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2006, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-21-22-23-feb/345532/354 "2006-02-24T02:19:00Z")
> [@](#): > > The only one I’m kind of surprised about is Patrick. He seemed to have the makeup to last for a while. Non-threatening, boy band looks. Decent personality. A better singer than at least five of the other males. I guess he just got overlooked. Patrick was easily the most unmemorable male. I didn’t know he existed until Tuesday, and I promptly forgot about him again until he was on stage tonight. ---
**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2006, 2:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-21-22-23-feb/345532/355 "2006-02-24T02:26:31Z")
> [@Lama Pacos](#): > > I predicted Gedeon would be out, but I think I was too harsh on him-- the band gave him an awful, soul-sucked arrangement of “Shout” that was practically unredeemable. > > I don’t think the importance of the band should be underestimated. The arrangements range from passable to atrocious, and a song that can weather a bad arrangement will, I think, fare much better. Great point! I really hadn’t even thought of it that way, despite how obvious it is. I blamed the singer when I should have blamed the band. It was Muzak. What the hell could the kid do with Muzak? > [@](#): > > On another note, does anyone think Ryan seems to be getting bitter and restless? Yep. And I’m sick of his personal little war with Simon. Just drop it, Ryan. Move on. ---
**Author:** ![Lama\_Pacos](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/d6d6ee/32.png) [@Lama\_Pacos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lama_Pacos)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2006, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-21-22-23-feb/345532/356 "2006-02-24T02:35:49Z")
I mean, the whole band thing also severely limits how much the singer can “make a song their own”. If they’re stuck with some awful theme like “boy band night!”, maybe in the real world Taylor could pull some ingenious bluesified version of “I Want It That Way”, but in the Idol world he’s gonna be stuck with the same backing track that Ace would get. You can’t layer a whiskey voice on top of synths any more than Pantera can tour with Jessica Simpson. ---
**Author:** ![Walter\_Windchill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/eb8c5e/32.png) [@Walter\_Windchill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walter_Windchill)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2006, 2:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-21-22-23-feb/345532/357 "2006-02-24T02:39:25Z")
In retrospect, Bobby needed to go. Copofuckingcabana has been on my head all day, and it’s his fault. Serves him right. ---
**Author:** ![Rachael\_Rage](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/71c47a/32.png) [@Rachael\_Rage](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rachael_Rage)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2006, 2:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-21-22-23-feb/345532/358 "2006-02-24T02:39:47Z")
> [@Liberal](#): > > And I’m sick of his personal little war with Simon. Just drop it, Ryan. Move on. Absolutely agree. Simon is _always_ the most insightful and reasonable of all the judges. The “Simon’s a jerk” song and dance is WAY tired. That said, I suspect that Ryan doesn’t have a lot to do with it. He has probably been instructed to play up that angle on the absurd notion that it’s “good TV.” If they didn’t have their fakey, manufactured antagonistic “banter” the show would be 15 minutes shorter and they’d have to fill it up with those asinine [product-placed cola] skits. Or do they still do that? I haven’t watched regularly since Season 1. ---
**Author:** ![detop](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/bcef8e/32.png) [@detop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/detop)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2006, 2:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-21-22-23-feb/345532/359 "2006-02-24T02:40:09Z")
> [@Walter Windchill](#): > > Funny Liberal should mention Levon Helm (even if it’s via a link). > > When Taylor first said he was singing “Levon,” my brain thought “He’s going to sing a Levon Helm song!” and I was excited. He would do GREAT with anything Levon sang. I hope he has a chance to sing, “Well Virgil Cane is the name and I served on the Danville train, until Stonewall’s cavalry came and ripped up the tracks again…” > > Yeah, that would rock. The original line is :_Virgil Cane is the name and I rode on the Danville train when **Stoneman’s** cavalry came and they tore the tracks again…_. Since the song is from a Southerner’s POV, it makes more sense that way (Stoneman was an Union cavalry commander and Stonewall was a Southern infantry general) ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2006, 2:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-21-22-23-feb/345532/360 "2006-02-24T02:48:31Z")
> [@Liberal](#): > > Yep. And I’m sick of his personal little war with Simon. Just drop it, Ryan. Move on. Me too. I don’t even think Simon has really been as blithely dismissive as in seasons past. I actually think he’s made an effort to make his criticism a little more constructive this year. I also think that he tends only to do that if he thinks there’s something worth salvaging. There’s always a few people who I think he just regards as hopeless and not worth the time no matter what he says and that bobby kid was one of them. Simon was right- there was more wrong with that performance than a 20 second critique was going to be able to get at and he wasn’t a kid who had a realistic chance anyway. I also think that Randy is trying to add a little more substance this season. He’s made a number of valid, substantive critiques already I don’t he’s said “You did your thing” a single time yet. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-21-22-23-feb/345532.md?page=17) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-21-22-23-feb/345532.md?page=19)