# American Idol 3/28, Songs of the 21st Century **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [March 28, 2006, 4:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-3-28-songs-of-the-21st-century/350256 "2006-03-28T16:02:12Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 10
**Author:** ![lissener](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lissener/32/6139_2.png) [@lissener](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lissener)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2006, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-3-28-songs-of-the-21st-century/350256/181 "2006-03-29T19:44:54Z")
[QUOTE=RickJay] Which makes you wonder why she picked it. Why not do “Beautiful”? [/QUOTE] Katherine has a classic style; she’s a throwback. She should be doing Doris Day songs; sixties Streisand. There’s not much 21st c. music that suits her. She should have taken something from k.d. lang’s songbook, or one of Coldplay’s torchier songs. But she’s young, and so I forgive her for being an Aguilera fan. She’ll grow out of it. ---
**Author:** ![Moe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/moe/32/2972_2.png) [@Moe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moe)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2006, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-3-28-songs-of-the-21st-century/350256/182 "2006-03-29T20:05:06Z")
Well, I haven’t seen last night’s episode yet, and after reading this thread I guess I really don’t have much to look forward to, but I wanted to make a plea here to everyone to please not encourage the use of Randy’s stupid word _pitchy_. Whatever his experience in the biz is, I don’t think he has a very good ear for pitch. In fact, it seems that complaints about pitch is his standard comment when he doesn’t love a performance but lacks the critical thinking skills to actually back up why. _Intonation_ would be a better term for singing slightly flat/sharp. Singing an A when you meant to sing Bb is a pitch problem. Pedantry aside, I feel for Lisa. She was my pick from the very beginning. I think she has more natural talent than most of the remaining contestants, but she just doesn’t have the maturity to have enough presence. Paris is just a year older but I’ve seen her just go out and own the stage. Lisa needs another couple of years I think. I also must confess to liking the Pickler. As Simon has said, there’s just something likable about her. Anyway, since I tend to be behind a few days on each episode it’s back to lurking mode for me. ---
**Author:** ![Shayna](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shayna/32/17976_2.png) [@Shayna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shayna)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2006, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-3-28-songs-of-the-21st-century/350256/183 "2006-03-29T20:05:47Z")
Good lord, what a complete suckfest that was. Tied for Best Performance and Vocals: Taylor and Elliott HUGE drop Bad But Not Awful Performance: Paris, Katharine and Bucky Tied for Hideous and Horrifying Performance: Lisa (that was just plain painful), Kellie (she sang about soap suds in a bucket?? Her schtick is so freakin’ annoying), Ace (no wonder this guy hasn’t been able to make it in Hollywood on his own – he sucks!), Mandisa (woman cannot “sing,” she can only scream. Low, quieter notes were badly off key/sharp/flat/pitchy – every. single. one. I just do not get the love for this woman.) and Chris (goatboy screams repetitively one sharp note for a minute twenty-nine seconds longer than I can stand). I think the bottom 3 will be Lisa, Ace and Chris. I think Chris is in for a very rude awakening, given the backlash from last week’s debacle and this week’s frighteningly bad song choice and performance. He lost a lot of fans because of those two things, but will it be enough to actually plunge him to the bottom? I really think it might be. Well, a girl can hope, anyway. ---
**Author:** ![lissener](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lissener/32/6139_2.png) [@lissener](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lissener)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2006, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-3-28-songs-of-the-21st-century/350256/184 "2006-03-29T20:10:17Z")
[QUOTE=Moe] Well, I haven’t seen last night’s episode yet, and after reading this thread I guess I really don’t have much to look forward to, but I wanted to make a plea here to everyone to please not encourage the use of Randy’s stupid word _pitchy_. Whatever his experience in the biz is, I don’t think he has a very good ear for pitch. In fact, it seems that complaints about pitch is his standard comment when he doesn’t love a performance but lacks the critical thinking skills to actually back up why. _Intonation_ would be a better term for singing slightly flat/sharp. Singing an A when you meant to sing Bb is a pitch problem. Pedantry aside, I feel for Lisa. She was my pick from the very beginning. I think she has more natural talent than most of the remaining contestants, but she just doesn’t have the maturity to have enough presence. Paris is just a year older but I’ve seen her just go out and own the stage. Lisa needs another couple of years I think. I also must confess to liking the Pickler. As Simon has said, there’s just something likable about her. Anyway, since I tend to be behind a few days on each episode it’s back to lurking mode for me. [/QUOTE] We say “pitchy” in response to Randy; he says it’s “pitchy” and the simplest way to respond to that is to say “it’s not pitchy.” Otherwise we’d have to tangentially redefine our terms for each post. To be fair, he says sharp when he means sharp, and flat when he means flat. “Pitchy,” to him, means it was both; it was all over the place. I’d say with Randy saying it on national Television for however many years now, your battle is lost. ---
**Author:** ![Walter\_Windchill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/eb8c5e/32.png) [@Walter\_Windchill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walter_Windchill)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2006, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-3-28-songs-of-the-21st-century/350256/185 "2006-03-29T22:50:24Z")
Apparently this Nigel guy who produces the show said tonight’s results are “shocking.” I think he says that every other show, but this week it’s supposed to be really, really shocking. Just relaying the news from TWoP. Your shockage may vary. ---
**Author:** ![Moe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/moe/32/2972_2.png) [@Moe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moe)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2006, 11:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-3-28-songs-of-the-21st-century/350256/186 "2006-03-29T23:35:57Z")
[QUOTE=lissener] We say “pitchy” in response to Randy; he says it’s “pitchy” and the simplest way to respond to that is to say “it’s not pitchy.” Otherwise we’d have to tangentially redefine our terms for each post. To be fair, he says sharp when he means sharp, and flat when he means flat. “Pitchy,” to him, means it was both; it was all over the place. I’d say with Randy saying it on national Television for however many years now, your battle is lost. [/QUOTE] ::sigh:: Well, I can’t say I won’t continue to cringe whenever I hear/see it, but I guess that’s my own issue. pitchy indeed… feh ---
**Author:** ![Shayna](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shayna/32/17976_2.png) [@Shayna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shayna)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2006, 11:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-3-28-songs-of-the-21st-century/350256/187 "2006-03-29T23:38:40Z")
[QUOTE=Walter Windchill] Apparently this Nigel guy who produces the show said tonight’s results are “shocking.” I think he says that every other show, but this week it’s supposed to be really, really shocking. Just relaying the news from TWoP. Your shockage may vary. [/QUOTE] Yes, apparently the entire bottom 3 are supposed to be shocking, much like the 3 divas week in season 3. If it’s that shocking, then the expected bottom-dwellers Lisa, Bucky and Ace can’t be among them tonight. Therefore my prediction is: Paris, Mandisa and Chris, with Mandisa going home. ---
**Author:** ![Biggirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biggirl/32/3294_2.png) [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2006, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-3-28-songs-of-the-21st-century/350256/188 "2006-03-30T02:08:50Z")
NEVER! EVER! WEAR JEANS, WOMAN. I’m sorry, I couldn’t keep myself from yelling. And, dang is her waist little. It’s sorta unsettling. ---
**Author:** ![KarlGrenze](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/dbc845/32.png) [@KarlGrenze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KarlGrenze)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2006, 2:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-3-28-songs-of-the-21st-century/350256/189 "2006-03-30T02:12:00Z")
Ok, I remember when Shakira wore pants (jeans) and shirts, had long dark wavy hair with red highlights, and didn’t need to do so many gimmicks. That said, I like her outfit, wish I could fit into someting like that. Does the back screen have a naked woman? ---
**Author:** ![KarlGrenze](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/dbc845/32.png) [@KarlGrenze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KarlGrenze)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2006, 2:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-3-28-songs-of-the-21st-century/350256/190 "2006-03-30T02:15:13Z")
Biggirl, are you referring to Mandisa? ---
**Author:** ![Biggirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biggirl/32/3294_2.png) [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2006, 2:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-3-28-songs-of-the-21st-century/350256/191 "2006-03-30T02:16:41Z")
[QUOTE=KarlGrenze] Biggirl, are you referring to Mandisa? [/QUOTE] Who else? Now that I see the people who are safe, the bottom three cannot be shocking at all. ---
**Author:** ![KSO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/f07891/32.png) [@KSO](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KSO)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2006, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-3-28-songs-of-the-21st-century/350256/192 "2006-03-30T02:17:17Z")
Of the 5 who might be going home, the only one that would “shock” me is Katherine. ---
**Author:** ![LilyoftheValley](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/54ee81/32.png) [@LilyoftheValley](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LilyoftheValley)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2006, 2:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-3-28-songs-of-the-21st-century/350256/193 "2006-03-30T02:20:13Z")
Is it my TV, or AI’s usual sound mixing? I could not hear a word Shakira was singing. ---
**Author:** ![KarlGrenze](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/dbc845/32.png) [@KarlGrenze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KarlGrenze)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2006, 2:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-3-28-songs-of-the-21st-century/350256/194 "2006-03-30T02:21:25Z")
Ok, let the last one be Katherine… Does Lisa wants to be out? ---
**Author:** ![Biggirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biggirl/32/3294_2.png) [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2006, 2:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-3-28-songs-of-the-21st-century/350256/195 "2006-03-30T02:22:48Z")
Please let it be Ace. Please let it be Ace. NOT KATHERINE! Boy, I’m yelling a lot tonight. ---
**Author:** ![JeffB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jeffb/32/188_2.png) [@JeffB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JeffB)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2006, 2:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-3-28-songs-of-the-21st-century/350256/196 "2006-03-30T02:22:54Z")
Lisa, Ace, and (very surprisingly) Katherine. I can’t believe it will be Katherine. I’m hoping it’s Ace. I’m expecting Lisa. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2006, 2:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-3-28-songs-of-the-21st-century/350256/197 "2006-03-30T02:23:23Z")
pleaseletitbeacepleaseletitbeacepleaseletitbeacepleaseletitbeace… ---
**Author:** ![Biggirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biggirl/32/3294_2.png) [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2006, 2:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-3-28-songs-of-the-21st-century/350256/198 "2006-03-30T02:24:14Z")
It wouldn’t be shocking if it was Lisa. ---
**Author:** ![JeffB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jeffb/32/188_2.png) [@JeffB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JeffB)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2006, 2:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-3-28-songs-of-the-21st-century/350256/199 "2006-03-30T02:24:44Z")
The problem is Ace has a fan base that will vote for him even if he sucks; Lisa doesn’t. ---
**Author:** ![PapSett](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ecc23a/32.png) [@PapSett](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PapSett)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2006, 2:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-3-28-songs-of-the-21st-century/350256/200 "2006-03-30T02:25:02Z")
NOT ACE!!! I am not done looking at him yet ! Either of the girls… but NOT MY ACE!!! [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-3-28-songs-of-the-21st-century/350256.md?page=9) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-3-28-songs-of-the-21st-century/350256.md?page=11)