# American Idol 3/28, Songs of the 21st Century **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [March 28, 2006, 4:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-3-28-songs-of-the-21st-century/350256 "2006-03-28T16:02:12Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Biggirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biggirl/32/3294_2.png) [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2006, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-3-28-songs-of-the-21st-century/350256/21 "2006-03-28T20:32:11Z")
[QUOTE=yellowval] Let me guess, does the Def Leppard joke have something to do with a one-armed drummer? Why don’t you just put it in spoiler tags and let those of us who are already going to hell take a look at it. [/QUOTE] You are also correct! What has 8 legs 7 arms and sucks? Def Leppard. Oh, and I love Lisa Lisa. Although I do have a problem with Full Force seeing as how I remember one of them getting arrested for beating his wife with a bed poster. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2006, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-3-28-songs-of-the-21st-century/350256/22 "2006-03-28T20:37:35Z")
With the category being what it is, I fear the door is wide open for Chris to sing Creed. I know it has to happen sometime. I’ve been dreading it all season. I just hope “Arms Wide Open” came out before 2000. ---
**Author:** ![yellowval](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/919ad9/32.png) [@yellowval](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yellowval)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2006, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-3-28-songs-of-the-21st-century/350256/23 "2006-03-28T20:43:29Z")
That’s a good one, **Biggirl** , and I don’t even think it’s that offensive. But that’s just me. I’m still going to hell. **Dio** , I’m also afraid that we’ll hear Creed tonight. If Chris does sing Creed, he just may lose me. I’m pretty sure “Arms Wide Open” came out in 2000 or 2001. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2006, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-3-28-songs-of-the-21st-century/350256/24 "2006-03-28T20:46:17Z")
Def Leppard has nine arms and ten legs. They still suck, though. ---
**Author:** ![rockle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/73ab20/32.png) [@rockle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rockle)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2006, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-3-28-songs-of-the-21st-century/350256/25 "2006-03-28T20:55:12Z")
[QUOTE=yellowval] What did it to me was the “Party on, **rockle** ,” which is definitely “Wayne’s World.” You know, “Party on, Wayne.” “Party on, Garth.” [/QUOTE] Understandable. The “Bill & Ted” line we were thinking of was when George Carlin says, “Be excellent to each other, and party on.” Ugh, _Creed_. Why’d y’all have to make me think of _them?_ And while we’re on the subject of unsavory things … Scott Stapp? In a sex tape? With Kid Rock? “_Ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwww_” does not even _begin_ to cut it. Great, you guys. Now I have to go wash my brain out with bleach and Drano. ---
**Author:** ![PapSett](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ecc23a/32.png) [@PapSett](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PapSett)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2006, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-3-28-songs-of-the-21st-century/350256/26 "2006-03-28T20:57:01Z")
I know mine is not a popular opinion, but I don’t WANT Ace to leave. Yes, he has very little talent, yes, he is probably the worst of what’s left. But DAMN ! He’s purdy! 😉 I actually like Bucky, too, I like his Southern Rock style. My hopes (which I know ain’t gona happen) are that the Pickler is outta here. Her stupidity grates on my nerves. Her or Lisa. Just let me _look_ at Ace a little bit longer… ---
**Author:** ![Dung\_Beetle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dung_beetle/32/7945_2.png) [@Dung\_Beetle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dung_Beetle)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2006, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-3-28-songs-of-the-21st-century/350256/27 "2006-03-28T20:58:32Z")
Hey, I thought it was going to be a joke about deafness, not missing limbs! I am offended! 😉 ---
**Author:** ![yellowval](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/919ad9/32.png) [@yellowval](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yellowval)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2006, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-3-28-songs-of-the-21st-century/350256/28 "2006-03-28T21:02:08Z")
[QUOTE=rockle] … Scott Stapp? In a sex tape? With Kid Rock? “_Ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwww_” does not even _begin_ to cut it. [/QUOTE] Agreed. That’s way more offensive than one-armed drummer jokes. ---
**Author:** ![scotandrsn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a4c791/32.png) [@scotandrsn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scotandrsn)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2006, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-3-28-songs-of-the-21st-century/350256/29 "2006-03-28T21:04:19Z")
Some online sources are telling me that Creed’s “With Arms Wide Open” was on a 1999 album. Of course, Chris could pick a different Creed song. Lisa seems to have enough of a fan base to keep her afloat. As in the elimination prediction thread, my money’s on Bucky this week. ---
**Author:** ![rockle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/73ab20/32.png) [@rockle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rockle)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2006, 9:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-3-28-songs-of-the-21st-century/350256/30 "2006-03-28T21:05:47Z")
[QUOTE=Diogenes the Cynic] With the category being what it is, I fear the door is wide open for Chris to sing Creed. I know it has to happen sometime. I’ve been dreading it all season. I just hope “Arms Wide Open” came out before 2000. [/QUOTE] Hmm. According to [Rolling Stone](http://www.rollingstone.com/artists/creed/albums/album/194123/rid/5944925/), the album Human Clay was released in 1999 … but, unfortunately, “With Arms Wide Open” was released as a single in 2000. So I guess it’s a crap shoot with this one. **HOWEVER.** Even Jesus hates Creed, and hopefully Chris does, too. ---
**Author:** ![Walter\_Windchill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/eb8c5e/32.png) [@Walter\_Windchill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walter_Windchill)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2006, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-3-28-songs-of-the-21st-century/350256/31 "2006-03-28T23:45:39Z")
2000 still isn’t the 21st Century. And of course I expect American Idol to get that right! As for Creed, don’t know 'em, but I’ll take your word for it that we don’t want to hear them. On the other hand, I don’t see Chris picking anything better. Who cares who what late grunge band he picks? It’s all the same to me. If anyone does Wilco, they’ll be my new fave. ---
**Author:** ![rockle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/73ab20/32.png) [@rockle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rockle)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2006, 12:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-3-28-songs-of-the-21st-century/350256/32 "2006-03-29T00:03:49Z")
[QUOTE=Walter Windchill] 2000 still isn’t the 21st Century. And of course I expect American Idol to get that right! [/QUOTE] Ha ha … are you new? (No, really, I keed. 😃 ) As much as I hate to give TPTB even more power over my sorry-ass life than it already has, they _have_ been known in the past to bend the rules a _wee_ bit. I know, right? Like … let’s flash back to last year: at the end of one episode, Ryan announces that the next week’s theme would be “Disco Night.” So everyone in America who watches “AI” scratches his or her head and goes, “[Scooby Doo noise]?” Because it sounds like Bo is totally hosed, you know? But when the episode airs, Ryan says that the theme is really “Dance Music of the 70’s.” And Bo sings “Vehicle,” and _it’s so farkin’ awesome that nobody realizes for a week that “Vehicle” is not exactly “Dance Music of the 70’s.”_ Poor Carrie had to sing “MacArthur Park,” although I only feel a _little bit_ sorry for her, because she admitted that she picked the song herself. Point being … I would not be surprised if “the 21st century” is “redefined” to include songs from 1995 or later – and possibly even songs that were recorded prior to then that some “current” artist maybe possibly reportedly thought about covering, once. Like, “My Prerogative” or something (which appeared on Britney Spears’ 2004 greatest so-called hits record). ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2006, 12:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-3-28-songs-of-the-21st-century/350256/33 "2006-03-29T00:12:46Z")
They could also hide behind versions of songs which appear on live albums (like if a band recorded a song in 1998 but it appears on a live album they recorded in 2002 then AI might qualify it). They’ll probably also allow “21st Century” covers of practically anything (like Uncle Kracker’s version of “Drift Away,” for instance). ---
**Author:** ![Walter\_Windchill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/eb8c5e/32.png) [@Walter\_Windchill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walter_Windchill)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2006, 12:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-3-28-songs-of-the-21st-century/350256/34 "2006-03-29T00:31:22Z")
I was being ironic, rockle. I would be stunned if they knew or cared when the 21st Century really started. I hope Elliot sings Usher. Not because I’m a big Usher fan, but because I can see Elliot doing Usher and doing well with it. Usher’s sort of a hip-hop era Stevie Wonder. ---
**Author:** ![Walter\_Windchill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/eb8c5e/32.png) [@Walter\_Windchill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walter_Windchill)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2006, 12:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-3-28-songs-of-the-21st-century/350256/35 "2006-03-29T00:45:53Z")
I hear Kellie is going to precede her song by explaining the theory of relativity using handpuppets. But those spoiler threads on TWoP are often wrong. ---
**Author:** ![Rachael\_Rage](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/71c47a/32.png) [@Rachael\_Rage](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rachael_Rage)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2006, 12:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-3-28-songs-of-the-21st-century/350256/36 "2006-03-29T00:55:49Z")
[QUOTE=PapSett] I know mine is not a popular opinion, but I don’t WANT Ace to leave. Yes, he has very little talent, yes, he is probably the worst of what’s left. But DAMN ! He’s purdy! 😉 Just let me _look_ at Ace a little bit longer… [/QUOTE] I hate to admit it, but I kind of agree. There are people still in the competition who are arguably more talented, but less likeable and who can’t (I hope) win anyway - namely Kellie (irrational _hate_), Lisa (yawn) and Bucky (meh). Then again, if Ace really biffs it and I cringe all the way through his performance, I won’t be _too_ sorry to see him go. Sigh. ---
**Author:** ![Rachael\_Rage](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/71c47a/32.png) [@Rachael\_Rage](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rachael_Rage)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2006, 12:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-3-28-songs-of-the-21st-century/350256/37 "2006-03-29T00:57:11Z")
[QUOTE=Walter Windchill] Usher’s sort of a hip-hop era Stevie Wonder. [/QUOTE] Except that Stevie Wonder is a legendary genius and Usher is a completely useless human being. IMO. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![KarlGrenze](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/dbc845/32.png) [@KarlGrenze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KarlGrenze)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2006, 1:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-3-28-songs-of-the-21st-century/350256/38 "2006-03-29T01:03:27Z")
She’s good, but something in her voice is lacking… ---
**Author:** ![BabaBooey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/dfb087/32.png) [@BabaBooey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BabaBooey)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2006, 1:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-3-28-songs-of-the-21st-century/350256/39 "2006-03-29T01:03:27Z")
Lisa’s doing great. ---
**Author:** ![Biggirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biggirl/32/3294_2.png) [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2006, 1:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-3-28-songs-of-the-21st-century/350256/40 "2006-03-29T01:04:52Z")
That’s the most impassioned I’ve ever seen Lisa. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-3-28-songs-of-the-21st-century/350256.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-3-28-songs-of-the-21st-century/350256.md?page=3)