# American Idol 4/12 **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [April 12, 2005, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-4-12/298996 "2005-04-12T17:41:19Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 11
**Author:** ![kevja](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/aeb1de/32.png) [@kevja](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kevja)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2005, 2:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-4-12/298996/201 "2005-04-14T02:23:05Z")
> [@rockle](#): > > In Nadia’s defense, I’m not entirely sure that Paul McCartney isn’t a little bit “flexible.” After all, he wrote that dreck she sang. And, “Climb Ev’ry Mountain” isn’t sung by Maria (Julie Andrews), but by Mother Superior (who was, incidentally, played by a male actor in one production I was in, because he was a killer tenor, and he did a great job with the song). I stand corrected regarding “The Sound of Music.” And just so I’m not confused again. When you say Paul McCartney is “flexible.” What do you mean? I’m a 50 year old gay man, and I’ve never heard McCartney refered to in that way. ---
**Author:** ![Mama\_Tiger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/6de8d8/32.png) [@Mama\_Tiger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mama_Tiger)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2005, 2:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-4-12/298996/202 "2005-04-14T02:24:27Z")
I forgot to mention: I want whatever Paula was on tonight. Day-um, she was even more messed up than usual! ---
**Author:** ![GraceTX](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/c4cdca/32.png) [@GraceTX](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GraceTX)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2005, 2:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-4-12/298996/203 "2005-04-14T02:25:18Z")
> [@gobear](#): > > It’s a pattern: the Black Chick Who Ought To Be In The Final Two Gets Shafted: First it was Tamyra Gray in 2002, then it was Trenyce in 2003, and Latoya London last year, and now Nadia. You really think so? Tamyra was probably the best of the four and is the only one that I would put in the Top 2. Trenyce never had an original interpretation to a song the entire time she was on A.I. When she sang a Whitney Houston song, she was Whitney Houston. When it was a Tina Turner song, she was Tina Turner. She might have been technically proficient, but that’s not enough. And, poor Latoya had no passion for singing. I was left cold with all three of these singers so I wasn’t surprised when they were booted. And I’m not all that surprised about Nadia. She didn’t have a chance when so many of the Top 12 could outsing her. She would’ve kicked butt last year (I think she’s better than Latoya), but the competition was too fierce this year. ---
**Author:** ![Good\_Egg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/96bed5/32.png) [@Good\_Egg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Good_Egg)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2005, 2:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-4-12/298996/204 "2005-04-14T02:26:47Z")
I was so caught up in it all, I forgot to watch Paula. What did she do exactly? ---
**Author:** ![kevja](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/aeb1de/32.png) [@kevja](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kevja)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2005, 2:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-4-12/298996/205 "2005-04-14T02:31:57Z")
> [@Biggirl](#): > > I know. I was hurt too. Still, my chances of running into him in a club where he’s performing and having a real life “Killing Me Softly” moment before he realizes exactly how much he needs me in his bed are just about the same whether he’s straight or gay. Hurt? That he’s gay? You’ve got to be kidding me. This is the coolest news of the day. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2005, 2:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-4-12/298996/206 "2005-04-14T02:34:48Z")
Bo was very cool about the possibility of getting voted off but maybe a little too modest. He mentioned going back to “playing gigs” but he must know he’s going to get a record deal no matter what. And even if he did go back to playing weddings, he’d be able to quadruple his price and stay booked every weekend of the year. I’m sure there’s an awful lot of women out there who would die to have Bo Bice play at their wedding. ---
**Author:** ![Wile\_E](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c37758/32.png) [@Wile\_E](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wile_E)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2005, 2:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-4-12/298996/207 "2005-04-14T02:55:54Z")
Both Bo and Nadia were pretty classy about being in the bottom three, but Scott is always doing this wanna be gangsta thang. I remember back in the auditions he seemed like this sweet guy whose father had put him down and he was just trying to prove himself. Now he just seems to be a phony with a bad attitude. ---
**Author:** ![Jaade](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/dfb087/32.png) [@Jaade](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jaade)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2005, 2:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-4-12/298996/208 "2005-04-14T02:57:28Z")
I’m sorry **gobear** , I disagree. Nadia did not deserve to be in the final two. **Dio** , Bo can be in my wedding… ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Wing](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/51bf81/32.png) [@Little\_Wing](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Wing)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2005, 3:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-4-12/298996/209 "2005-04-14T03:01:38Z")
Who the hell are these people who are voting for Scott? No one I know who’s watched this even remotely likes him, his singing or his attitude. He should have been voted off weeks ago. I missed last night’s show but watched the videos over on [watchidol.com](http://watchidol.com) and I know it’s not a popular opinion but I was blown away by Nadia’s performance last night. Yes, it was an “unknown” song but there’s just something about her voice that is extremely pleasant to me. There’s a certain…maturity to her style that’s appealing. It’s hard to explain. It’s all subjective, anyway. But Scott? Oh, dear heavens…I couldn’t watch more than 30 seconds, wincing the entire time. That was painful. How the hell Nadia got voted off and he didn’t, I’ll never understand. ---
**Author:** ![Wile\_E](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c37758/32.png) [@Wile\_E](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wile_E)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2005, 3:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-4-12/298996/210 "2005-04-14T03:03:23Z")
I definitely noticed Paula slurring and rambling and weaving tonight. Simon just seems to roll his eyes and look away whenever she starts to talk. ---
**Author:** ![annieclaus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b5a626/32.png) [@annieclaus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/annieclaus)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2005, 3:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-4-12/298996/211 "2005-04-14T03:17:02Z")
How come nobody’s mentioned how nice Seacrest looked tonight? He was all clean-shaven, wearing a suit and tie and nice white shirt which may even have had French cuffs. He cleans up rather nicely. Much, much better than a ratty t-shirt and a face full of stubble. End of rant. Sorry to see Nadia go. I thought she had real star quality. But I wasn’t really surprised. ---
**Author:** ![Mama\_Tiger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/6de8d8/32.png) [@Mama\_Tiger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mama_Tiger)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2005, 3:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-4-12/298996/212 "2005-04-14T03:19:42Z")
Seacrest forgot one important wardrobe item, however – a hankie in his pocket. Did you notice at the end he took off his tie to give to Nadia to wipe her tears with? Don’t younger men carry handkerchiefs any more? ---
**Author:** ![annieclaus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b5a626/32.png) [@annieclaus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/annieclaus)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2005, 3:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-4-12/298996/213 "2005-04-14T03:27:23Z")
> [@Mama Tiger](#): > > Seacrest forgot one important wardrobe item, however – a hankie in his pocket. Did you notice at the end he took off his tie to give to Nadia to wipe her tears with? Don’t younger men carry handkerchiefs any more? I did not realize that he had given her his tie. Nice catch! And you’re right about needing a hankie, especially on a Wednesday night show. ---
**Author:** ![Mama\_Tiger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/6de8d8/32.png) [@Mama\_Tiger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mama_Tiger)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2005, 3:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-4-12/298996/214 "2005-04-14T03:33:32Z")
There was a quick shot of her standing there holding the tie, and as he closed his collar was open. It looked like a really nice shot silk tie, too; but if the wardrobe people are too dumb to give him a hankie on Wednesday, oh well. ---
**Author:** ![GraceTX](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/c4cdca/32.png) [@GraceTX](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GraceTX)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2005, 4:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-4-12/298996/215 "2005-04-14T04:04:13Z")
> [@Wile E](#): > > I definitely noticed Paula slurring and rambling and weaving tonight. Simon just seems to roll his eyes and look away whenever she starts to talk. I’m surprised she stayed in her chair. She was swaying side to side and thought she’d fall over. ---
**Author:** ![Only\_Mostly\_Dead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/f19dbf/32.png) [@Only\_Mostly\_Dead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Only_Mostly_Dead)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2005, 4:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-4-12/298996/216 "2005-04-14T04:43:02Z")
We just figured she stole the tie from him. And intended to keep it to practice some voodoo. I know I would if I was the competition’s “steak” and was bumped off before AFed’s McBurger. A horrendous decision. I feel like this is my NCAA pool all over again. One of my final four gone early on, and another on shaky ground. ---
**Author:** ![Savannah](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b3f665/32.png) [@Savannah](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Savannah)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2005, 4:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-4-12/298996/217 "2005-04-14T04:44:40Z")
> [@Jaade](#): > > Nadia is gone. I cannot believe that Scott survived over her. > > Scott sucks. How does he keep getting votes? Who is voting for him? Stop it! Yes. Whatever the voting’s about, it sure isn’t who’s a good singer. 😕 :mad: ---
**Author:** ![koeeoaddi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/koeeoaddi/32/408_2.png) [@koeeoaddi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/koeeoaddi)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2005, 5:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-4-12/298996/218 "2005-04-14T05:11:57Z")
Nadia? Scott. Nadia? For God’s sake, _Scott!_ _Nadia?_ :eek: Sorry, had to take a minute to sort that out. At least Anwar is safe. ---
**Author:** ![vivalostwages](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d07c76/32.png) [@vivalostwages](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vivalostwages)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2005, 5:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-4-12/298996/219 "2005-04-14T05:13:50Z")
Scott is safe. Scott is safe?! There truly is no justice. ---
**Author:** ![Large\_Marge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/50afbb/32.png) [@Large\_Marge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Large_Marge)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2005, 5:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-4-12/298996/220 "2005-04-14T05:22:33Z")
> [@Wile E](#): > > That was just so wrong. I admit that Nadia may not have been good enough to win but she was good enough to outlast Scott and Anthony. If she had only kept picking songs and doing performances like she did with “You Don’t Have to Say You Love Me” then maybe the fools voting for Scott might have realized she was hella better than him. > > I admit that I initially like both Scott and Anthony but Scott really creeps me out now and he doesn’t deserve to be there. Not just because he’s notas good a singer as the others but him being allowed to stay on the show after his domestic violence arrest came out when others with kicked off for less serious issues is just wrong. > > I did not vote last night because I wasn’t feeling well. I only managed tthree attempts for Nadia and I never got through. I would have voted for Bo, too. Now I feel even worse. I don’t understand this. Shouldn’t you be voting for the one who is most talented? And not the one you feel sorry for because they might get booted? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-4-12/298996.md?page=10) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-4-12/298996.md?page=12)