# American Idol 4/17 **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [April 17, 2007, 6:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-4-17/400507 "2007-04-17T18:31:20Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![OpalCat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/8edcca/32.png) [@OpalCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OpalCat)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2007, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-4-17/400507/121 "2007-04-18T18:52:06Z")
[QUOTE=Liberal] At any rate, what do you think about Chris’s head-twist? Don’t you agree that objectively, it sets him apart? [/QUOTE] I know you weren’t asking me, but I had never thought anything set him apart from the others except that he has a worse voice than most of them, and he’s unbearably nasally. I find nothing even remotely appealing about him. He hides the fact that he can’t hit the notes by hitting 5 or 6 notes near it and warbling around. I think he’s worse than Sanjaya because he doesn’t appear to have any personality at all… he is just a generic, vanilla, bland drone. ---
**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2007, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-4-17/400507/122 "2007-04-18T19:02:55Z")
I disagree. I think his personality is rather phlegmatic. As far as Sanjaya, I don’t call psychosis a personality. 😃 (Plus, Sanjaya doesn’t do the head twist.) ---
**Author:** ![OpalCat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/8edcca/32.png) [@OpalCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OpalCat)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2007, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-4-17/400507/123 "2007-04-18T19:05:26Z")
I’m not getting the appeal of “the head twist”. ---
**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2007, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-4-17/400507/124 "2007-04-18T19:08:40Z")
For me, it comes across as a kind of punctuation of the song’s rhythm. Bucky Covington did the same thing last year. ---
**Author:** ![OpalCat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/8edcca/32.png) [@OpalCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OpalCat)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2007, 7:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-4-17/400507/125 "2007-04-18T19:12:21Z")
copying someone else’s move is just further proof to me that he has no personality… ---
**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2007, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-4-17/400507/126 "2007-04-18T19:18:42Z")
He’s not copying someone else’s move. Are you copying the other people who said they don’t like him? I like him; you don’t. There is no “proof” one way or the other about his personality. ---
**Author:** ![Savannah](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b3f665/32.png) [@Savannah](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Savannah)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2007, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-4-17/400507/127 "2007-04-18T19:28:27Z")
[QUOTE=Liberal] At any rate, what do you think about Chris’s head-twist? Don’t you agree that objectively, it sets him apart? [/QUOTE] I thought that was just an unfortunate muscle spasm. There seems to be a lot of animosity toward the country genre expressed. Let me swim against the tide a bit: I love country music. I like Martina McBride, too. I have most of her albums; I think she’s got a great, big voice, and I like most of her song choices. That being said, I don’t listen to country radio. Most of what I hear on country radio is just forgettable pap these days. But there are some awesome musicians out there making great music. Don’t dismiss it all by what’s popular. What’s popular isn’t necessarily what’s the best of the style. ---
**Author:** ![Trunk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/87869e/32.png) [@Trunk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trunk)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2007, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-4-17/400507/128 "2007-04-18T19:42:15Z")
[QUOTE=Savannah] Most of what I hear on country radio is just forgettable pap these days. [/QUOTE] Agreed. I just happen to find McBride perhaps the pappiest. Holy shit. She’s the force behind the worst song ever performed. . ._Independence Day_. I would have liked to have seen Beat Box bust out some Yoakum, but not gonna happen. ---
**Author:** ![Only\_Mostly\_Dead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/f19dbf/32.png) [@Only\_Mostly\_Dead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Only_Mostly_Dead)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2007, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-4-17/400507/129 "2007-04-18T20:05:43Z")
[QUOTE=Savannah] There seems to be a lot of animosity toward the country genre expressed. Let me swim against the tide a bit: I love country music…But there are some awesome musicians out there making great music. Don’t dismiss it all by what’s popular. What’s popular isn’t necessarily what’s the best of the style. [/QUOTE] Unfortunately, what’s popular is what gets chosen on American Idol. I’m only hating the “pop music with a fiddle” that is current radio country. I’d be in heaven if they were playing some Allison Krauss or Cowboy Junkies, or even something like Nickel Creek. Just what’s on country radio, and what was sung last night, it has no soul. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2007, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-4-17/400507/130 "2007-04-18T20:39:23Z")
I once saw an episode of _The Muppet Show_, with Garth Brooks as the guest. Everyone kept bugging him to sing a country song, and he kept singing pop songs. When they got him to promise a country song, he sang _If I Were A Rich Man_. When asked what happened to the country song he promised, he said “Russia is a country.” I _so_ wanted someone to do that last night. ---
**Author:** ![Queen\_Tonya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/4491bb/32.png) [@Queen\_Tonya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Queen_Tonya)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2007, 9:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-4-17/400507/131 "2007-04-18T21:38:02Z")
Don’t forget, though, it’s probably the show’s fault and not necessarily the contestants re: song choice. They get a list titled “Only the one’s we have rights to” to choose from basically, so maybe a lot of those artists we were wishing to hear just weren’t available. **Lib** I think you’re missing the boat with Chris. His biggest appeal is his look, all Tiger Beat Timberlakey goodness, his vocal talents have never been at the same level as most of the other ones. When he gets one right, meaning totally in his comfort zone and he manages to sing from his diaphragm, he can sound very nice and he is pretty good about looking comfortable onstage and he seems to have a decent helping of professionalism, but vocally? Head twist? Nah. ---
**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2007, 10:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-4-17/400507/132 "2007-04-18T22:01:05Z")
I’m sure that part of it, too, is that I’m desperate to dump Sanjaya, and so I’ll build up almost anyone else. It has gotten to the point where I have this almost aversion to Sanjaya. Can’t even stand to see him. It’s like when I see George Bush. Or James Carville. I just puke in my heart. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2007, 10:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-4-17/400507/133 "2007-04-18T22:30:03Z")
Speaking of James Carville, that’s what would probably result if Phil Stacey and Chris Richardson were taken to the island of Dr. Moreau, and combined… ---
**Author:** ![scotandrsn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a4c791/32.png) [@scotandrsn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scotandrsn)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2007, 11:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-4-17/400507/134 "2007-04-18T23:22:01Z")
[QUOTE=kaylasdad99] I once saw an episode of _The Muppet Show_, with Garth Brooks as the guest. Everyone kept bugging him to sing a country song, and he kept singing pop songs. When they got him to promise a country song, he sang _If I Were A Rich Man_. When asked what happened to the country song he promised, he said “Russia is a country.” I _so_ wanted someone to do that last night. [/QUOTE] Ah, the late, lamented Muppets Tonight. “No one love Robot Lincoln…” ---
**Author:** ![Silver\_Fire](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a88e4f/32.png) [@Silver\_Fire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Silver_Fire)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2007, 11:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-4-17/400507/135 "2007-04-18T23:29:14Z")
[QUOTE=DanBlather] Mrs Blather and I had a disagreement last night. I thought that Martina looked just like Cameron on House, she thought I was nuts. [/QUOTE] I agree with your wife. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Wile\_E](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c37758/32.png) [@Wile\_E](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wile_E)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2007, 11:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-4-17/400507/136 "2007-04-18T23:47:45Z")
[QUOTE=OpalCat] I know you weren’t asking me, but I had never thought anything set him apart from the others except that he has a worse voice than most of them, and he’s unbearably nasally. I find nothing even remotely appealing about him. He hides the fact that he can’t hit the notes by hitting 5 or 6 notes near it and warbling around. I think he’s worse than Sanjaya because he doesn’t appear to have any personality at all… he is just a generic, vanilla, bland drone. [/QUOTE] That’s not nice! Vanilla is good. Chris is not. ---
**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2007, 12:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-4-17/400507/137 "2007-04-19T00:17:13Z")
“_Un_-flavored for me!” — Maude Flanders ---
**Author:** ![vivalostwages](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d07c76/32.png) [@vivalostwages](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vivalostwages)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2007, 1:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-4-17/400507/138 "2007-04-19T01:02:08Z")
Oh, please let Sanjaya go home tonight. If you repeat it enough times, perhaps you can make it happen. (Kidding. I know that’s goofy stuff. But I really am sick of him.) ---
**Author:** ![rockle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/73ab20/32.png) [@rockle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rockle)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2007, 1:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-4-17/400507/139 "2007-04-19T01:24:29Z")
Is it possible to lose your mind from eating Triscuits? Because – I have to be crazy, because I just saw Fergie on my TV, and she had her armpits and her midriff covered, both at the same time, and I didn’t stick pencils in my ears to block her out, and … _I kind of think she sounded OK_. Her outfit was _ridiculous_, of course, but she didn’t sound terrible. Maybe because she wasn’t _spelling_ anything? ---
**Author:** ![Wile\_E](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c37758/32.png) [@Wile\_E](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wile_E)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2007, 1:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-4-17/400507/140 "2007-04-19T01:25:19Z")
What the hell? Why is Fergie on? Well, at least she didn’t sing “My Humps” _shudder_ This group may not be the greatest group of finalists on individual performances but as a group I think they sound pretty good. Of course it helps to give Jordin and Melinda more lines. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-4-17/400507.md?page=6) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-4-17/400507.md?page=8)