# American Idol 4/19

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [April 19, 2005, 1:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-4-19/300042 "2005-04-19T13:44:34Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Campion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/4491bb/32.png) [@Campion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Campion)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2005, 3:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-4-19/300042/101 "2005-04-20T03:09:39Z")

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The show’s on right now in California, and Connie just finished.

I’m posting for one reason and one reason only: last week, I believe promises were made, **Hal Briston**. But, once again, Mayor McCheese did his lame third-grade “call me” hand signal.

This long national nightmare has to end. **Hal** , I’ve got you on the redeye out to LAX. Take care of some business for us, would you?

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**Author:** ![GraceTX](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/c4cdca/32.png) [@GraceTX](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GraceTX)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2005, 3:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-4-19/300042/102 "2005-04-20T03:21:19Z")

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Dad gummit, Bo is one sexy man! He blew them all away. Second place wasn’t even close tonight.

My bottom three: Constantine, Carrie, and Anwar

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**Author:** ![Rilchiam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2bfe46/32.png) [@Rilchiam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rilchiam)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2005, 4:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-4-19/300042/103 "2005-04-20T04:25:50Z")

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> [@Jaade](#):
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> When they preview everyone’s performances at the end, I hear inconsistencies I missed the first time around in every single performance except for Bo’s.

Those clips are from the dress rehearsal.

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**Author:** ![Jaade](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/dfb087/32.png) [@Jaade](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jaade)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2005, 4:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-4-19/300042/104 "2005-04-20T04:47:23Z")

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> [@Rilchiam](#):
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> Those clips are from the dress rehearsal.

Seriously? Gah…that’s just wrong!

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**Author:** ![kezami](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/eb8c5e/32.png) [@kezami](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kezami)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2005, 4:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-4-19/300042/105 "2005-04-20T04:57:13Z")

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My take on tonight’s performances:

1. **Vonzell** - picked a very difficult song with a few key changes and impressed me a lot
2. **Carrie** - crap song in original version but disco version okay, her vocals were very good with impressive power at the end. She is a really good singer but too apple pie for my liking.
3. **Bo** - he’s a rocker and thats all. Could front a band but pffft as a solo artist.
4. \*\*Scott \*\* - good song choice and nailed the vocals but still uninspiring
5. \*\*Constantine \*\* - he was my first pick last 2 outings, big slide
6. **Anthony** - he’s always in my bottom 3 and will likely remain there, nothing special
7. **Anwar** - tres blah, doesn’t inspire me at all ever

Vonzell has to be the front runner after tonight’s impressive performance, she’s so versatile and has excellent range.

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**Author:** ![Rilchiam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2bfe46/32.png) [@Rilchiam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rilchiam)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2005, 4:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-4-19/300042/106 "2005-04-20T04:58:38Z")

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> [@Jaade](#):
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> Seriously? Gah…that’s just wrong!

Well, what else can they do?

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**Author:** ![foolsguinea](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foolsguinea/32/14751_2.png) [@foolsguinea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/foolsguinea)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2005, 10:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-4-19/300042/107 "2005-04-20T10:17:09Z")

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_My_ take on tonight’s performances:

Top 2, in no particular order: **Vonzell, Bo.** I thought Bogart did really well, but Vonzell had a harder song.

A hair below them was **Constantine.** Good vocals, but Maroulis missed a bet on the eyeshadow.

Also voted for **Carrie.** Not really a Carrie fan, just disturbed at idea of her going home before the drips & leaving Vonzell as only girl in Top 6. Also trying not to penalize her for the fact that I hate that song.

I wondered if **Anwar** would go this week, but he sounded surprisingly ok, as long as his fans don’t recognize the flat notes.

**Anthony** has this huge, almost operatic projection, but his tone is eh.

You know something? I just really don’t like **Savol’s** voice! This week I could really tell that.

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**Author:** ![rockle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/73ab20/32.png) [@rockle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rockle)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2005, 12:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-4-19/300042/108 "2005-04-20T12:14:46Z")

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OK, this has nothing to do with anything that actually happened, but I had a dream about “Idol” last night, and I wanted to share with you all, because misery loves company. In my dream, the theme was not “So-Called 70’s Dance Music” but “Songs By Canadian Artists.” (I don’t know.) Anyway, not that you care, but this is what everyone sang in my dream, in the order in which they appeared:

**Bo** - “American Woman” by the Guess Who  
**Vonzell** - “I’m Like A Bird” by Nelly Furtado  
**Anthony** - “Don’t Forget Me (When I’m Gone)” by Glass Tiger  
**Anwar** - “Hey Paula” by Paul Anka (I believe that even in my sleep this song made me gag)  
**Scott** - “Everything I Do (I Do For You)” by Bryan Adams (before he brought the suck) (Bryan Adams, not Scott, who always brings the suck)  
**Carrie** - “Because You Loved Me” by Celine Dion  
**Constantine** - “The Old Apartment” by Barenaked Ladies  
So, there you go. Try to get those visuals out of your head. Lord knows they can’t possibly be worse than what we saw last night, for the most part. You’re welcome.

_(PS - No, I have no idea why I am dreaming about this show. Please do not ask. I am already seeking professional help.)_

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**Author:** ![kka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/54ee81/32.png) [@kka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kka)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2005, 12:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-4-19/300042/109 "2005-04-20T12:19:20Z")

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> [@rockle](#):
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> Oooo … looks like Paula mixed downers with her uppers, so she’s completely incoherent, but not as spastic as usual. I think I miss the old Paula. Maybe.

I think she was just on ppills and not drunk.

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**Author:** ![foolsguinea](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foolsguinea/32/14751_2.png) [@foolsguinea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/foolsguinea)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2005, 1:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-4-19/300042/110 "2005-04-20T13:01:43Z")

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When I was [quite young] I loved Glass Tiger’s “Don’t Forget Me (When I’m Gone)”! It seems like a good song for Anthony! Assuming he could sing it.

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**Author:** ![Jaade](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/dfb087/32.png) [@Jaade](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jaade)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2005, 1:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-4-19/300042/111 "2005-04-20T13:04:04Z")

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> [@Rilchiam](#):
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> Well, what else can they do?

Well it would seem like they’d have time for a team to splice it together while the singers were performing, what with all of that commercial time in between. I can see though, how that would be difficult for the technicians to do, especially with the last few singers. I guess I’d just never thought of that before, particularly since they had the show where they screwed up the numbers across the bottom.  
**rockle** , I would guess that Carrie would actually do a Shania Twain song before Celine Dion. Not that she’s any less sucky as an artist, but because she does have a powerful voice and sings “country”.

I am not sure I can forgive you for the mental image of Scott screwing up the Bryan Adams song. I can’t believe you actually remember everything about your dream including every single song sung. And that you dreamed the theme on American Idol was Canadian singers. (Hey, their themes have been far worse in the not so distant past!) ~L~ Who did the worst in your dream?

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**Author:** ![Rilchiam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2bfe46/32.png) [@Rilchiam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rilchiam)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2005, 1:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-4-19/300042/112 "2005-04-20T13:27:27Z")

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Semis week 1: “You Are My Lady”

Week 2: “Never Too Much”

Week 3: “I Can’t Help Myself”

Finals Week 1: “Ain’t Too Proud To Beg”

Week 2: “Against All Odds”

Week 3: “One Last Cry”

Week 4: “The Impossible Dream”

Week 5: “She’s Gone”

Week 6: “Everlasting Love”

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**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2005, 1:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-4-19/300042/113 "2005-04-20T13:43:25Z")

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[…standing timidly…]

Hi, my name is Lib, and I like Carrie.

[…quietly sitting…]

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**Author:** ![Nutty\_Bunny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/d07c76/32.png) [@Nutty\_Bunny](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nutty_Bunny)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2005, 1:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-4-19/300042/114 "2005-04-20T13:53:00Z")

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When Constantcheesefart was performing, all I could hear was that SNL skit with Jimmy Fallon and Justin Timberlake. “_Talking it up…talking it up…on the Barry Gibb Talk Show_”. I even woke up with the song in my head. I don’t think I even know what the real words are.

My mother called me immediately after Connie’s performance and said, “He’s my American Idol!” After a long pause on my end of the phone to try to decipher any sarcasm, I realized she wasn’t kidding.

Me: :dubious: 😕 :eek:

Anyway, I want to go on record and say that I love my husband very, very much, but Bo was very hot last night. My God! He definitely did the best job. If my husband can call Carrie “his girl”, then I can have Bo. I’m officially in the SDMB catfight now, bitches!

> [@rockle](#):
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> In my dream, the theme was not “So-Called 70’s Dance Music” but “Songs By Canadian Artists.” (I don’t know.)

Ooh, ooh! Can I play? This is the only difference of opinion I have with your subconscious.

**Constantine** - “Sunglasses at Night” by Corey Hart. He especially sounded like him when he was trying on his “rocker” :rolleyes: persona early in the competition.

Oh, and **rockle**? They’re called _Under_roos for a reason. 😉

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**Author:** ![Only\_Mostly\_Dead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/f19dbf/32.png) [@Only\_Mostly\_Dead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Only_Mostly_Dead)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2005, 1:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-4-19/300042/115 "2005-04-20T13:54:04Z")

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> [@rockle](#):
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> OK, this has nothing to do with anything that actually happened, but I had a dream about “Idol” last night, and I wanted to share with you all, because misery loves company. In my dream, the theme was not “So-Called 70’s Dance Music” but “Songs By Canadian Artists.” (I don’t know.) Anyway, not that you care, but this is what everyone sang in my dream, in the order in which they appeared:
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> **Bo** - “American Woman” by the Guess Who  
> **Vonzell** - “I’m Like A Bird” by Nelly Furtado  
> **Anthony** - “Don’t Forget Me (When I’m Gone)” by Glass Tiger  
> **Anwar** - “Hey Paula” by Paul Anka (I believe that even in my sleep this song made me gag)  
> **Scott** - “Everything I Do (I Do For You)” by Bryan Adams (before he brought the suck) (Bryan Adams, not Scott, who always brings the suck)  
> **Carrie** - “Because You Loved Me” by Celine Dion  
> **Constantine** - “The Old Apartment” by Barenaked Ladies  
> So, there you go. Try to get those visuals out of your head. Lord knows they can’t possibly be worse than what we saw last night, for the most part. You’re welcome.
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> _(PS - No, I have no idea why I am dreaming about this show. Please do not ask. I am already seeking professional help.)_

Wow, that’s some coherent dreaming. I’d rather see Carrie not make me vomit, and do her country-rock crossover again, maybe a little Alanis (Thank U?) or Cowboy Junkies (though I don’t know which song to pick, maybe Misguided Angel). No, I found what would make me simply melt, Sarah McLachlan “Possession.” (Yeah, I know it’s a creepy stalker song, but it’s a HOT creepy stalker song)

Connie would sing Tom Cochrane’s “Life Is A Highway.” No doubt, works too well. Mildly rock while still being soft.

Bo woul be great on Guess Who “American Woman” for the popular choice, or my pick, “No Sugar Tonight.” Or for novelty, Five Man Electrical Band “Signs” (Sign says long haired freaky people need not apply).

Anthony could do Tal Bachman “She’s So High,” or Corey Hart “Never Surrender” (Granted, I don’t know your selection, so it might be more fitting. Truth is I don’t much care what Anthony sings. And for some reason I think he already did “Never Surrender” this season).

Anwar - For bonus points as being doubly Canadian, Rufus Wainwright’s arrangement of Leonard Cohen’s “Hallelujah.”

I can’t think of a thing for Vonzell (whom I like as a singer, it’s just she’s not at all my style) or Scott (who I can just ignore). I’ll agree with your Scott choice having nothing better, and hope we’re both missing something great for Vonzell.

It seems a shame for us both to outright ignore Joni Mitchell, but there’s just not enough women left, and my Carrie list is already packed.

I predict a new game to make these threads even longer. The “Dream Theme” songs.

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**Author:** ![Jaade](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/dfb087/32.png) [@Jaade](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jaade)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2005, 1:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-4-19/300042/116 "2005-04-20T13:57:01Z")

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HI Lib!

Me, too, for the record. I did notice last night that she was very mechanical in her dancing and moving around on stage. I think she’s just not as sure of her abilities as she should be.

**Rilchiam** , wow…thanks. That is…telling. Good observation **rockle**. Disturbing.

**Only Mostly Dead** , cute idea. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Only\_Mostly\_Dead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/f19dbf/32.png) [@Only\_Mostly\_Dead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Only_Mostly_Dead)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2005, 1:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-4-19/300042/117 "2005-04-20T13:59:31Z")

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**Lib** , stand tall and proud with me and **Nutty Bunny** ’s bunny honey: CARRIE IS OUR HOT COUNTRY GIRL, WE LOVE HAVING HER ON IDOL!

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**Post date:** [April 20, 2005, 1:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-4-19/300042/118 "2005-04-20T13:59:39Z")

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I missed the show last night, which is a shame, because I like disco. All I caught was a glimpse of Constantine and his eyeliner. I like eyeliner on men just fine, only I don’t think Connie did a very good job applying it. I give him extra points for the white blazer/black shirt. You know, the night he gets voted off may be the night I quit watching. He’s not the greatest thing since sliced bread, but the rest of them put me to sleep (except Scott, who gives me cramps.)

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**Author:** ![Kalhoun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/3bc359/32.png) [@Kalhoun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kalhoun)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2005, 2:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-4-19/300042/119 "2005-04-20T14:02:18Z")

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So who got the axe? I missed it last night.

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**Author:** ![Gary\_T](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/3ec8ea/32.png) [@Gary\_T](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gary_T)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2005, 2:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-4-19/300042/120 "2005-04-20T14:02:26Z")

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> [@rockle](#):
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> **Anwar** - “Hey Paula” by Paul Anka (I believe that even in my sleep this song made me gag)

???

Do you mean [**"Hey Paula"**](http://my.execpc.com/~suden/hey_paula.html) by [**"Paul and Paula"**](http://http://www.icebergradio.com/artist/3390/paul_and_paula.html) ? I’m not aware of Paul Anka ever doing that song, and he certainly doesn’t seem to be associated with it.

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