# American Idol 4/19 **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [April 19, 2005, 1:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-4-19/300042 "2005-04-19T13:44:34Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 8
**Author:** ![rockle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/73ab20/32.png) [@rockle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rockle)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2005, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-4-19/300042/141 "2005-04-20T16:34:55Z")
> [@Gary T](#): > > Nah, it was written by Ray Hildebrand, aka “Paul” of Paul and Paula. If your brain is like mine, it probably just over-associated with the name Paul. Hmm … I blame this on the part of my brain that understands the infield fly rule and other random sports junk. I get other stuff mixed up sometimes, but I understand the infield fly rule. (Or, I used to, anyway.) At any rate, it was a dream, so I guess it’s a little OK that my brain messed up, right? (Not that it is OK that my brain IS messed up. Or something.) ---
**Author:** ![kezami](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/eb8c5e/32.png) [@kezami](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kezami)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2005, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-4-19/300042/142 "2005-04-20T17:18:09Z")
> [@annieclaus](#): > > Can someone please explain to me why “I’m Every Woman” is thought to be such a difficult song? I don’t see it myself. Explained [here](http://www.gearchange.org/descriptions/Chaka%20Khan%20-%20I'm%20Every%20Woman.html) ---
**Author:** ![kevja](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/aeb1de/32.png) [@kevja](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kevja)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2005, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-4-19/300042/143 "2005-04-20T17:46:28Z")
70s dance music. How lame. Call it “Disco” you chickenhearts. Or make the theme “dance music from any decade.” I do not like Bo, and I’m old enough to remeber all those songs, and “Vehicle” is not, and never was considered a dance song. Having said that, he nailed it, and was the best of the night. \*\* Last night \*\* 1. Bo 2. Anthony 3. Vonzell 4. Constantine 5. Anwar 6. Scott 7. Carrie \*\* New Overall \*\* 8. Anthony 9. Constantine 10. Vonzell 11. Anwar 12. Bo 13. Carrie 14. Scott (the way things are going, he’ll stay and Anwar will be voted off tonight) ---
**Author:** ![Jaade](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/dfb087/32.png) [@Jaade](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jaade)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2005, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-4-19/300042/144 "2005-04-20T17:53:56Z")
If Scott doesn’t get voted off soon, I’m going to get suspicious… Does anyone remember the first year of Big Brother? Originally, the show was set up so that “America voted!” to keep their favorite contestants in the house. It was highly publicized that one of the redneck guys, I think a guy from TN, had an entire community at home who would gather at one place and just vote, vote, vote to keep him in. The person in his hometown would take donations and just let everyone who wanted to stop in and vote for him as many times as they wanted. The other contestants pitched a fit later when they saw what was keeping him in the game and complained. The next year they changed the voting style in BB. Now, I imagine if something like this were happening for Scott word would have gotten out. But the conspiracy theorist in me says this cannot be all on the up and up. NO ONE likes him yet he gets enough votes to stay in the contest week after week. How? The Christian votes theory is starting to fall apart for me because his attitude is just so TERRIBLE. I know if my grandmother watched TV, and watched AI and was of the inclination to vote (a lot of ifs there) she’d never vote for someone that acted like he does. He’s pretentious with absolutely no justification. ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2005, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-4-19/300042/145 "2005-04-20T17:56:56Z")
> [@Biggirl](#): > > I like Carrie, I really do, but that "We don’t got no [whatever-- running water, There are a few here who like Constantine. I wish they’d speak up more because I really, really (not being snarky here-- well, maybe a little) REALLY want to know why. Everyone says Savol is creepy-- and don’t get me wrong, he is, but Connie looks like a damned psycho. He doesn’t look like he’s making love to the camera. He looks like he’s plotting to torture and kill it. Plus he scares my daughter. Because Savol really is a creep. He sounds like he’s retarded, too. Constantine, to my eyes, is OBVIOUSLY acting. Of all the contestants, he strikes me as being the one who really understands that he’s won the lottery and is in a trained monkey show; he’s willing to do and sing anything because that’s the game he’s being asked to play, and anyway it’s fun. On top of that he knows damn well he doesn’t have the talent to win, so he has clearly decided he may as well throw a Hail Mary every week and try to win through sheer moxie. I don’t believe the man has any illusions whatsoever. He acts like a nut because, I think, he fully realizes he’s at about Minute 12 of his 15, and by Christ he’s gonna enjoy it. With Constantine I always get the impression that he’s winking at us and saying “Isn’t this hilarious? I’m having the time of my life of here. Check out Abdul, she’s drunk, isn’t that great? Holy shit, I’m on national TV! What a riot.” The other contestants say they’re having fun but treat the entire process with the sort of meaningless, forced-smile seriousness you’d expect from a high school student council election. ---
**Author:** ![Winnie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e480ec/32.png) [@Winnie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Winnie)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2005, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-4-19/300042/146 "2005-04-20T18:51:30Z")
Did anyone notice at the end of Carrie’s performance when Seacrest asked her why she chose to sing MacArthur Park when it was widely known that the lyrics are the most bizarre and nonsensical in pop music? She said that it was a great song vocally, except for the words. Just the kind of soulless aptitude for popular music that makes AI great. :smack: ---
**Author:** ![Biggirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biggirl/32/3294_2.png) [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2005, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-4-19/300042/147 "2005-04-20T19:15:56Z")
I think I like your explanation, **RickJay**. Much better than perfectly nice doper moms falling hopelessly in TV love with a serial killer. Still, he will now be Buffalo Bill in my mind (it’s the eyeliner that clinched it.) It’s the eye thing. I’m easily skeeved by eyes. Remeber that actress from Flash Gordon with those crystalline blue eyes? She scared me too and she didn’t even do that weird _wide:: not wide :: wide :: not wide_ thing. ---
**Author:** ![GraphicsGal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e0b2c6/32.png) [@GraphicsGal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GraphicsGal)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2005, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-4-19/300042/148 "2005-04-20T20:02:56Z")
> [@kevja](#): > > I do not like Bo, and I’m old enough to remeber all those songs, and “Vehicle” is not, and never was considered a dance song. Having said that, he nailed it, and was the best of the night. I graduated from high school in 1973. All sorts of tunes were “dance” tunes then…and disco was just a malevolent idea waiting to spring forth… I recall dancing to “Vehicle” as well as stuff by Steppenwolf, Creedence…I mean, would you consider “Bad Moon Rising” a dance song? Me neither, but we danced to whatever the bands at the dances played. I agree the “Vehicle” is not a disco song, but it was a 70s dance song, if that makes sense. ---
**Author:** ![kevja](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/aeb1de/32.png) [@kevja](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kevja)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2005, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-4-19/300042/149 "2005-04-20T20:39:00Z")
> [@GraphicsGal](#): > > I graduated from high school in 1973. All sorts of tunes were “dance” tunes then…and disco was just a malevolent idea waiting to spring forth… > > I recall dancing to “Vehicle” as well as stuff by Steppenwolf, Creedence…I mean, would you consider “Bad Moon Rising” a dance song? Me neither, but we danced to whatever the bands at the dances played. > > I agree the “Vehicle” is not a disco song, but it was a 70s dance song, if that makes sense. Class of 1972, here. I understand what you’re saying. A “Carpenters” song could be followed by “Led Zepplin” on the radio. But to call every 70s song a dance song seems to be a bit of a stretch. Maybe Carrie should have sang “Close To You.” A “slow dance” song. ---
**Author:** ![shelbo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3d9bf3/32.png) [@shelbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/shelbo)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2005, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-4-19/300042/150 "2005-04-20T20:58:23Z")
Two things. 1. Anwar can’t dance. At all. He looked like Elaine from Seinfeld out there, all twitchy and kicky. Poor guy. B. Bo rocks. That was a great performance. ---
**Author:** ![Wile\_E](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c37758/32.png) [@Wile\_E](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wile_E)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2005, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-4-19/300042/151 "2005-04-20T21:06:03Z")
I just saw an Inside Edition report on Paula. It seems she’s heard all the internet buzz about her being on drugs or drunk and was very hurt. So she told her story in the recent edition of people. It seems that she has had chronic pain issues for a long time due to numerous injuries from her dancing & cheerleading days. But she finally found a cure and now she feels great and she’s just having fun and being herself. So apparently her real self slurs, stumbles and acts like a fool. ---
**Author:** ![Queen\_Tonya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/4491bb/32.png) [@Queen\_Tonya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Queen_Tonya)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2005, 9:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-4-19/300042/152 "2005-04-20T21:31:45Z")
Welcome **Theologue**! 🙂 You’re raising a fine observant boy over there, good job! Great job explaining Conjob Smirkpants, **RickJay**. I went from liking him, to not liking him, to being slightly skeeved, then swerving into someplace where I’m not a real “fan” but am greatly entertained by his presence. **Lib** a lot of us _like_ Carrie. Most of us probably agree she’s got a good voice, even. The issue is that the contest is not American Singer but American Idol, it’s the whole package and while she’s got pipes, her stage presence isn’t there. Sure, it might arrive eventually, but I cruised around online last night googling the contestants, and Carrie’s been performing since she was a itty bitty thing, if she’s not comfortable onstage by now, I doubt it’s likely to suddenly happen. She’s pretty and I enjoy her voice, but ‘insipid’ and ‘vapid’ shouldn’t be the first adjectives that come to mind. Maybe she can step it up, I really hope so, but it’s doubtful. ---
**Author:** ![GraceTX](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/c4cdca/32.png) [@GraceTX](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GraceTX)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2005, 10:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-4-19/300042/153 "2005-04-20T22:00:25Z")
> [@shelbo](#): > > Two things. > > 1. Anwar can’t dance. At all. He looked like Elaine from Seinfeld out there, all twitchy and kicky. Poor guy. His John Travolta move at the end of his song made me laugh hysterically. I also laughed at Scott’s knee kick. So what did everyone think of Constantine’s streaked hair? ---
**Author:** ![Kuizelemartz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e19b73/32.png) [@Kuizelemartz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kuizelemartz)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2005, 10:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-4-19/300042/154 "2005-04-20T22:45:29Z")
I missed Connie’s streaked hair and zipper. I couldn’t stop looking at his eyes, I knew he had eyeliner on. The eyeshadow is what threw me off. Oh the joy of ending two sentences with prepositions. Go me! It seems like he has weird lighting on his face when he sings. Since he’s been working so hard on all these extra special touches, I want to see him with some seriously whiter teeth tonight. ---
**Author:** ![Good\_Egg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/96bed5/32.png) [@Good\_Egg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Good_Egg)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2005, 1:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-4-19/300042/155 "2005-04-21T01:04:06Z")
I don’t care about Ryan’s star. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![KSO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/f07891/32.png) [@KSO](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KSO)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2005, 1:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-4-19/300042/156 "2005-04-21T01:10:23Z")
This show sucks. Get to the boot! ---
**Author:** ![KarlGrenze](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/dbc845/32.png) [@KarlGrenze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KarlGrenze)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2005, 1:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-4-19/300042/157 "2005-04-21T01:14:35Z")
I finally saw the eyeliner of Connie… it’s scary. And is it that hard to figure out who are at the bottom? My guess is Anthony and Anwar… ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2005, 1:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-4-19/300042/158 "2005-04-21T01:15:45Z")
Not much mystery here. Scott’s going to join A-Fed and Anwar in the bottom 3. Scott will go home. ---
**Author:** ![Wile\_E](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c37758/32.png) [@Wile\_E](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wile_E)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2005, 1:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-4-19/300042/159 "2005-04-21T01:17:05Z")
I really hate these dramatics and games they play before they actually get around to telling us who’s out. As for Ryan;s star, I heard about that earlier today and I would have thought WTF!? but then I remembered it doesn’t really mean anything anymore. ---
**Author:** ![KSO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/f07891/32.png) [@KSO](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KSO)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2005, 1:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-4-19/300042/160 "2005-04-21T01:20:31Z")
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