# American Idol 4/21 to 4/22 **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [April 21, 2009, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-4-21-to-4-22/493859 "2009-04-21T16:22:40Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![tnetennba](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7993a0/32.png) [@tnetennba](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tnetennba)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2009, 1:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-4-21-to-4-22/493859/101 "2009-04-23T01:47:08Z")
David Archuleta still breathes too much when he sings. The song itself is actually OK. ---
**Author:** ![bobkitty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/c67d28/32.png) [@bobkitty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobkitty)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2009, 1:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-4-21-to-4-22/493859/102 "2009-04-23T01:51:24Z")
> [@Tamara+](#): > > There was noise in the room, what did Simon and Ryan bicker about there? Simon called Danny ‘clumsy’ and Danny stated he didn’t know exactly what Simon meant, but that he would work on it. Ryan asked Simon to clarify, Simon pitched a fit and told Ryan to get back to the contestants, and after a bit of an awkward pause Danny was pronounced safe. It was.. odd. And I loved the song when it came out too, but holy COW she was scary-botoxed. ---
**Author:** ![BigBertha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/d78d45/32.png) [@BigBertha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigBertha)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2009, 1:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-4-21-to-4-22/493859/103 "2009-04-23T01:59:55Z")
sobs quietly ---
**Author:** ![bobkitty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/c67d28/32.png) [@bobkitty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobkitty)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2009, 2:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-4-21-to-4-22/493859/104 "2009-04-23T02:07:49Z")
Aw, it’s okay… he made it through to the tour! ---
**Author:** ![Face\_Intentionally\_Left\_Blank](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/face_intentionally_left_blank/32/288_2.png) [@Face\_Intentionally\_Left\_Blank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Face_Intentionally_Left_Blank)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2009, 2:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-4-21-to-4-22/493859/105 "2009-04-23T02:12:13Z")
OK, so who went? I missed it. ---
**Author:** ![Stainz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecd19e/32.png) [@Stainz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stainz)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2009, 2:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-4-21-to-4-22/493859/106 "2009-04-23T02:12:50Z")
Anoop is gone. ---
**Author:** ![Face\_Intentionally\_Left\_Blank](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/face_intentionally_left_blank/32/288_2.png) [@Face\_Intentionally\_Left\_Blank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Face_Intentionally_Left_Blank)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2009, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-4-21-to-4-22/493859/107 "2009-04-23T02:17:39Z")
> [@Stainz](#): > > Anoop is gone. Thanks. Anoop surprised me in recent weeks, but he wasn’t going to make it in to the final two no matter what. Lil chased away my early faith in her. They’ll both be far better off than they were when they started, so it’s hard to feel too bad for anyone. ---
**Author:** ![Batsinma\_Belfry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ea5d25/32.png) [@Batsinma\_Belfry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Batsinma_Belfry)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2009, 2:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-4-21-to-4-22/493859/108 "2009-04-23T02:47:27Z")
Dang. ☹ I hope Lil gets back to her Bluesy/ R&B self, and has some success. I was indifferent to Anoop, until the past couple of weeks. But I think he sings better than atleast two of the remaining people. ---
**Author:** ![RachelChristine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/7ab992/32.png) [@RachelChristine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RachelChristine)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2009, 2:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-4-21-to-4-22/493859/109 "2009-04-23T02:50:43Z")
Aww! I think Allison and Anoop both deserved to stay longer, so I was upset with the bottom. Neither should win (although Allison is good enough), but I wanted Matt to GET OUT! I love Anoop though. Not the best of the group, but it wasn’t his time yet. ☹ ---
**Author:** ![BigBertha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/d78d45/32.png) [@BigBertha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigBertha)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2009, 3:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-4-21-to-4-22/493859/110 "2009-04-23T03:15:18Z")
sigh. I know. Matt must have some devoted voters.☹ ---
**Author:** ![Rachael\_Rage](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/71c47a/32.png) [@Rachael\_Rage](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rachael_Rage)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2009, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-4-21-to-4-22/493859/111 "2009-04-23T03:36:23Z")
I would have preferred to see Matt and Danny go before Anoop (there goes my triple-A final three) but he was just marking time. After all the cannon fodder are voted off (last one: Scott) then the ones who show no real development or improvement (or get worse, as in Lil’s case) start to go, until you end up with the top 2 or 3 who show real promise. I’m just hoping that America finally notices that Danny is _exactly the same_ as he was from day 1, and all of his songs sound _exactly the same_, and that sameness is not interesting even _a tiny little bit._ Gah. If I’m choosing now which would probably get me more points in the prediction game than I will end up getting, they’re going down as: 1. Matt 2. Allison 3. Danny 4. Kris 5. Adam That said, anything but an Adam/Allison final two would just be weird. Can you see Adam doing chummy duets with any of the other contestants on results night? Eesh. Adam and Allison would be a hoot together; Danny and Adam would be oil-and-water nauseating. And we’re all agreed that there’s no chance Adam isn’t winning the whole thing right? Regarding Adam as the great savior of Idol - sure, maybe and I look forward to findng out. I initially found his style incredibly annoying and deemed him a “performer, not a musician.” He hasn’t really disproved that, but he is such an incredibly talented _performer,_ I don’t much care if he can create a note of his own music. That said, it’s really his performances off Idol (search YouTube) that convinced me he’s got a lot to offer the post-Idol world. That version of “Crazy,” for example\*, and that insane glam-rock musical he helped write/choreograph. If nothing else, Adam’s concert tours will be something. No guitar and bare stage for him, no siree. If David Cook is currently touring like John Mayer, Adam will tour like Madonna. Now I might actually pay to see that. \*Honest, if you haven’t seen this and you’re at all an Adam fan you have to look it up. His versions of songs are my worst earworms. He’s got such a knack for it. ---
**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2009, 4:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-4-21-to-4-22/493859/112 "2009-04-23T04:38:07Z")
Judges have said many times that a performer should make the song their own. Adam has done that better than any other idol ever did. He is not my taste ,but I think he is the best . ---
**Author:** ![glee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b5a626/32.png) [@glee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/glee)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2009, 9:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-4-21-to-4-22/493859/113 "2009-04-23T09:20:37Z")
> [@Rachael\_Rage](#): > > If nothing else, Adam’s concert tours will be something. No guitar and bare stage for him, no siree. Unless he’s singing songs like ‘Tracks of my Tears’ or ‘Mad World’ magnificently? I appreciate that Adam interacts beautifully with the band and could easily bring on an amazing show of dancers, special effects and backing singers. But don’t underestimate him singing unplugged. 🆒 P.S. they haven’t fully updated the [online odds market](http://www.oddschecker.com/specials/american-idol/win-market) yet, but it reads: 1. Adam 2. Danny 3. Kris 4. Allison 5. Matt ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2009, 12:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-4-21-to-4-22/493859/114 "2009-04-23T12:17:25Z")
[Intrade](http://www.intrade.com/jsp/intrade/contractSearch/)has slightly different standings: 1. Adam 2. Danny 3. Allison 4. Matt 5. Kris ---
**Author:** ![corkboard](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e9bcb4/32.png) [@corkboard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/corkboard)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2009, 12:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-4-21-to-4-22/493859/115 "2009-04-23T12:29:14Z")
Wow- I’m embarrassed for KC. They should have brought it down a key or two; he just couldn’t hit those notes. He was sucking for air by the end. That was a disgrace. ---
**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2009, 1:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-4-21-to-4-22/493859/116 "2009-04-23T13:25:25Z")
Lil was unusual. She hit her stride early and actually got worse week after week. ---
**Author:** ![salinqmind](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3ec8ea/32.png) [@salinqmind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/salinqmind)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2009, 3:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-4-21-to-4-22/493859/117 "2009-04-23T15:16:20Z")
I like Adam and will be pleased when he wins, but he doesn’t set my heart on fire the way David Cook did. I love. Love. LOVE David Cook, he grabbed my heart and squeezed it last year. (I cried when he won.) Adam is pretty and shiny and talented and a star and the best of the lot, but he doesn’t …move me…I loved Bo Bice much the same way as I did DC. I thought his a cappella number was awesome,and am sorry HE dropped off the face of the earth, too. Matt annoys me, he’s got a face only his mother can love (yes, I’m shallow). ---
**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2009, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-4-21-to-4-22/493859/118 "2009-04-23T15:55:40Z")
> [@Rachael\_Rage](#): > > I initially found his style incredibly annoying and deemed him a “performer, not a musician.” He hasn’t really disproved that, but he is such an incredibly talented _performer,_ I don’t much care if he can create a note of his own music. When I’m watching the show, I have to remind myself sometimes that it’s American _Idol_. They’re not looking for the best musician or singer. They’re looking for the ones who can move product. Musical ability is secondary to audience pull, and Adam clearly seems to do that best of all the ones I saw last week. It’s the same idea as boy bands. Sure, you might occasionally get a guy like Justin Timberlake who has real talent, but in the end it takes a back seat to performance and audience appeal. ---
**Author:** ![Sam\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Sam\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sam_Stone)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2009, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-4-21-to-4-22/493859/119 "2009-04-23T18:26:44Z")
If you guys haven’t heard the iTunes studio recordings of these people, they’re very illuminating. Among the things I discovered: - Kris sounds better than anyone in the studio. His voice is much better than you can hear on the TV show, probably because his low register is very good and it doesn’t come through well in a compressed TV audio feed (and, because the AI sound people are hacks). You can hear [Falling Slowly](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b0LISmz8WVc) here. - Adam sounds pretty good as well, but all of his tracks are WAY overcompressed - uncomfortably so. I don’t know whether it’s the sound they were going for, or they had to do it to keep his voice under control, or what. But one side effect is that he’s not shrieky at all, and I could imagine listening to an album full of his material. - Danny Gokey sounds very average. His voice just doesn’t come off well on CD. - Alexis Grace sounded fantastic. I wish now she’d stuck around longer. She was doomed by a bad song choice, not by lack of talent. - Michael Sarver sounds better than I would have expected. Much better than he sounded on the show. In the end, listening to the recordings just reinforced by belief that the two real stars on this show are Kris and Adam. I’ll give Kris the advantage because he’s also a really good songwriter. I found a couple of original songs he did, and they’re quite good. ---
**Author:** ![notfrommensa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f14d63/32.png) [@notfrommensa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/notfrommensa)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2009, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-4-21-to-4-22/493859/120 "2009-04-23T18:47:51Z")
I missed the end of the results show last night. Did they say what next week’s theme is going to be? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-4-21-to-4-22/493859.md?page=5) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-4-21-to-4-22/493859.md?page=7)