# American Idol 4/22 and 4/23

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-4-22-and-4-23/446405>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [April 22, 2008, 3:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-4-22-and-4-23/446405 "2008-04-22T15:23:48Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 9

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Carm6773](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/2bfe46/32.png) [@Carm6773](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Carm6773)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2008, 1:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-4-22-and-4-23/446405/161 "2008-04-24T01:22:57Z")

</div>

The Davids are safe.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![tnetennba](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7993a0/32.png) [@tnetennba](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tnetennba)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2008, 1:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-4-22-and-4-23/446405/162 "2008-04-24T01:23:06Z")

</div>

I actually like David Cook now, too. He’s dead on. Absolutely the unpredictable thing to do was to do the song straight. No, he wasn’t that great, but the kid’s got balls. And he seems to respect ALW even though it’s not his usual fare.

But psst, the word you wanted is definitive, not definable.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Drain\_Bead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e47774/32.png) [@Drain\_Bead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drain_Bead)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2008, 1:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-4-22-and-4-23/446405/163 "2008-04-24T01:24:00Z")

</div>

I liked how Ryan called ALW “Sir” and then corrected himself.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Queen\_Tonya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/4491bb/32.png) [@Queen\_Tonya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Queen_Tonya)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2008, 1:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-4-22-and-4-23/446405/164 "2008-04-24T01:26:00Z")

</div>

It would have been so cool if they’d went back to the first few seasons method of having the guests judges actually judge instead of just coach and promote themselves. I’d have loved to hear ALW’s comments off the cuff instead of what he had all night to come up with.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![tnetennba](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7993a0/32.png) [@tnetennba](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tnetennba)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2008, 1:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-4-22-and-4-23/446405/165 "2008-04-24T01:26:23Z")

</div>

:nothing to see here:

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![tnetennba](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7993a0/32.png) [@tnetennba](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tnetennba)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2008, 1:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-4-22-and-4-23/446405/166 "2008-04-24T01:26:19Z")

</div>

ALW has been knighted, but he’s also a Baron so i don’t know how the British rules of obsequy apply.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![tnetennba](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7993a0/32.png) [@tnetennba](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tnetennba)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2008, 1:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-4-22-and-4-23/446405/167 "2008-04-24T01:30:32Z")

</div>

[QUOTE=Queen Tonya]  
It would have been so cool if they’d went back to the first few seasons method of having the guests judges actually judge instead of just coach and promote themselves. I’d have loved to hear ALW’s comments off the cuff instead of what he had all night to come up with.  
[/QUOTE]

They changed it because the guests would rather mentor than judge, mainly because they’re concerned about image. They don’t want to be seen as jerks. They were rarely that good as judges anyway, though a few were good (Kenny Loggins, for example.)

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Drain\_Bead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e47774/32.png) [@Drain\_Bead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drain_Bead)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2008, 1:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-4-22-and-4-23/446405/168 "2008-04-24T01:30:33Z")

</div>

Clay Aiken looks…horrifying.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Mama\_Tiger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/6de8d8/32.png) [@Mama\_Tiger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mama_Tiger)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2008, 1:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-4-22-and-4-23/446405/169 "2008-04-24T01:32:42Z")

</div>

I believe being a baron trumps being a knight. So he’d properly be Lord Andrew, not Sir Andrew.

ETA: Yes, what was with Clay’s long straight blond hair? That was ghastly! I thought at first he’d grown it for the stage, but then they showed his stage wig.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Barrett\_Bonden](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/5e9695/32.png) [@Barrett\_Bonden](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Barrett_Bonden)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2008, 1:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-4-22-and-4-23/446405/170 "2008-04-24T01:34:52Z")

</div>

[QUOTE=Mama Tiger]  
ETA: Yes, what was with Clay’s long straight blond hair? That was ghastly! I thought at first he’d grown it for the stage, but then they showed his stage wig.  
[/QUOTE]

I’ll wager it has to do with [Spam](http://www.playbill.com/news/article/111931.html). A lot.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Mama\_Tiger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/6de8d8/32.png) [@Mama\_Tiger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mama_Tiger)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2008, 1:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-4-22-and-4-23/446405/171 "2008-04-24T01:36:18Z")

</div>

Well, that’s what I thought, too, but on stage he wears a wig with shoulder length curls. His own hair isn’t that long, and it’s a hideous mustardy yellow fake hideous blond. Ugg and lee for sure!

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Carm6773](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/2bfe46/32.png) [@Carm6773](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Carm6773)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2008, 1:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-4-22-and-4-23/446405/172 "2008-04-24T01:40:39Z")

</div>

wtf? Brooke safe but Syesha in bottom two?  
again, wtf?

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![tnetennba](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7993a0/32.png) [@tnetennba](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tnetennba)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2008, 1:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-4-22-and-4-23/446405/173 "2008-04-24T01:40:45Z")

</div>

Even more the Wodehouse character then. His name should be Lord Lloyd-Wwebber though.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![tnetennba](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7993a0/32.png) [@tnetennba](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tnetennba)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2008, 1:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-4-22-and-4-23/446405/174 "2008-04-24T01:42:01Z")

</div>

[QUOTE=Carm6773]  
wtf? Brooke safe but Syesha in bottom two?  
again, wtf?  
[/QUOTE]

Brooke messed up noticeably, so people protected her. Syesha was great, the best of the night, so people felt she was safe.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![tnetennba](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7993a0/32.png) [@tnetennba](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tnetennba)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2008, 1:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-4-22-and-4-23/446405/175 "2008-04-24T01:46:03Z")

</div>

Jason is the most unshakeable contestant. He always seems amused by the whole thing and not terribly worried. I think it’s because he’s a bit high, but maybe he’s just easy going. Either way, it makes me like him.

ETA: Feels like I’m kind of monopolizing the discussion tonight. Sorry folks.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Silver\_Fire](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a88e4f/32.png) [@Silver\_Fire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Silver_Fire)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2008, 1:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-4-22-and-4-23/446405/176 "2008-04-24T01:46:15Z")

</div>

Please. Let this be it…

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Carm6773](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/2bfe46/32.png) [@Carm6773](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Carm6773)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2008, 1:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-4-22-and-4-23/446405/177 "2008-04-24T01:47:16Z")

</div>

…the hell???

Carly and Syesha in the bottom two?

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Mama\_Tiger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/6de8d8/32.png) [@Mama\_Tiger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mama_Tiger)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2008, 1:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-4-22-and-4-23/446405/178 "2008-04-24T01:52:30Z")

</div>

I think of the folks left, they’re the two with the smallest fan base. It’s not so much about singing any more; people like who they like, and vote for them no matter how they perform.

Also, Jason was stoned on his ass, wasn’t he? But honest. “I just don’t want to sing tonight,” he tells Ryan. Hee!

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Lama\_Pacos](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/d6d6ee/32.png) [@Lama\_Pacos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lama_Pacos)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2008, 1:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-4-22-and-4-23/446405/179 "2008-04-24T01:54:16Z")

</div>

Ugh, please let it be Syesha. Always proficient, but boring as hell. Carly knocked it out of the park last night. I’ll be really irritated if she goes.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![tnetennba](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7993a0/32.png) [@tnetennba](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tnetennba)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2008, 1:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-4-22-and-4-23/446405/180 "2008-04-24T01:55:25Z")

</div>

I didn’t see the ball leaving the park. Looked like a weak grounder to second from here.

[Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-4-22-and-4-23/446405.md?page=8)

[Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-4-22-and-4-23/446405.md?page=10)
