# American Idol 4/26 **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [April 26, 2005, 3:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-4-26/301161 "2005-04-26T15:18:22Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 13
**Author:** ![tdn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/94ad74/32.png) [@tdn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tdn)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2005, 2:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-4-26/301161/241 "2005-04-28T14:14:42Z")
> [@cricetus](#): > > I don’t have a problem with Bo’s vocals, just his song selection. I think the main reason people liked him at first is because he was keeping it real and it was a breath of fresh air on this show, and no one’s noticed that the air ain’t that fresh anymore. And this is one of the many things I like about Connie, who in my own demented mind is head and shoulders above the rest, clearly the best of the lot. He didn’t pick “safe” songs. He took chances. Who else on the show had enough sack to cover both Queen and The Partridge Family? But it was the showtunes episode that clinched it for me. While A-Fed was climbing every mountain (puke) and Vonzell was loving people (wretch), Connie did Funny Valentine, and nailed it but good. ---
**Author:** ![Wile\_E](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c37758/32.png) [@Wile\_E](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wile_E)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2005, 2:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-4-26/301161/242 "2005-04-28T14:15:04Z")
> [@yellowval](#): > > I really hate to admit that I’m going to miss Constantine. I wasn’t a big fan, but he made the show interesting. I think he screwed himself over this week by trying to go back to the rock image. He was much better when he didn’t try to be the rocker, and obviously many people recognized that. > … Yeah, it’s too bad there was no one to smack Constantine upside the head and say “No man! Don’t do Nickleback, it’s suicide!”. ---
**Author:** ![Good\_Egg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/96bed5/32.png) [@Good\_Egg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Good_Egg)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2005, 2:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-4-26/301161/243 "2005-04-28T14:17:46Z")
> [@tdn](#): > > And this is one of the many things I like about Connie, who in my own demented mind is head and shoulders above the rest,. He was certainly the tallest. ---
**Author:** ![koeeoaddi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/koeeoaddi/32/408_2.png) [@koeeoaddi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/koeeoaddi)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2005, 2:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-4-26/301161/244 "2005-04-28T14:20:52Z")
> [@kka](#): > > Scott is really piling on the “Regular Joe” crap and I guess people are falling for it. Nah. Carrie is the regular Joe (Jane), farm girl, loves mama, bare feet and l’il furry critters. She’s Ellie May Clampitt and I love her for it. Scott is belligerent, painful to watch and must own a genuine copy of The Ninth Gate of the Kingdom of Shadows. 1. Bo 2. Vozell 3. Carrie 4. Anthony ---
**Author:** ![Dung\_Beetle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dung_beetle/32/7945_2.png) [@Dung\_Beetle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dung_Beetle)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2005, 2:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-4-26/301161/245 "2005-04-28T14:23:18Z")
> [@cricetus](#): > > Scott will be gone next week. There’s a pattern of outrage/justice that the show depends upon. Sometimes I think they make up the votes completely just to boost ratings. Scott will go, then there’ll be a mini outrage over, perhaps, Vonzelle going before AFed or something. Bo will win, and release a crappy classic rock record, and Carrie will release a crappy country record, and the world will keep spinning. He’s right, you know. :mad: ---
**Author:** ![Good\_Egg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/96bed5/32.png) [@Good\_Egg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Good_Egg)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2005, 2:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-4-26/301161/246 "2005-04-28T14:26:57Z")
Well, Dung, your thread is _almost_ 6 pages! ---
**Author:** ![Dung\_Beetle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dung_beetle/32/7945_2.png) [@Dung\_Beetle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dung_Beetle)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2005, 2:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-4-26/301161/247 "2005-04-28T14:29:56Z")
> [@Good Egg](#): > > Well, Dung, your thread is _almost_ 6 pages! Must be my sparkling personality. 😉 I think I’ll let you have the thread back next week! ---
**Author:** ![annieclaus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b5a626/32.png) [@annieclaus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/annieclaus)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2005, 2:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-4-26/301161/248 "2005-04-28T14:37:49Z")
> [@Lil' Mahoney](#): > > It wasn’t just you. I thought the group sing was HORRIBLE. I agree that the individual parts were horrible, but the parts they sang together were OK. Maurice Gibb must have done a few crypt flips, however. ---
**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2005, 2:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-4-26/301161/249 "2005-04-28T14:41:38Z")
I never disliked Con, though his fans on some of the boards are scary as hell, and I had predicted that he would make the final two. That said, he was the worst singer on Tuesday, I thought. Scott was bad and listless, but Con was screechy and out of tune and urk. From the beginning, I’ve said that Scott’s voice is pretty, but it’s very much not my type of voice. I don’t like pretty voices, I like gritty, rough voices. I like the Fantasias, not the LaToyas. But that’s my preference. I can understand why people like Scott’s voice. If you compare him to Con, you’ll hear that Con’s voice is very affected and discordant. Some people like that. I don’t mind it. But it’s not a “good voice” in the way that a lot of people would probably define that term. Carrie, soulless she-bot that she is, has a “good voice.” Con is a good entertainer and a fame whore. Not that there’s anything wrong with that! ---
**Author:** ![fessie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c37758/32.png) [@fessie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fessie)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2005, 2:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-4-26/301161/250 "2005-04-28T14:48:00Z")
I think Scott’s had at least as many good performances as Constantine, who I have disliked intensely just about every week. His _Bohemian Rhapsody_ was really good, but the rest of the time he’s just too much of a ham. And there have been several weeks when Scott did a really good job. He doesn’t belong in the top 5 (or 8), but he’s not as irritating as Constantine. I was more outraged when Jennifer was voted off last year, I’d really wanted to see more of her, she was really picking up steam when she left. ---
**Author:** ![tdn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/94ad74/32.png) [@tdn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tdn)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2005, 2:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-4-26/301161/251 "2005-04-28T14:50:03Z")
> [@jsgoddess](#): > > If you compare him to Con, you’ll hear that Con’s voice is very affected and discordant. Some people like that. I don’t mind it. But it’s not a “good voice” in the way that a lot of people would probably define that term. He may not technically be the best, but he knows how to sell a wrong note. When he’s “pitchy”, it adds character to the performance. When the others are "pitchy’, it makes my ears bleed. ---
**Author:** ![Only\_Mostly\_Dead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/f19dbf/32.png) [@Only\_Mostly\_Dead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Only_Mostly_Dead)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2005, 2:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-4-26/301161/252 "2005-04-28T14:54:51Z")
> [@koeeoaddi](#): > > Carrie is the regular Joe (Jane), farm girl, loves mama, bare feet and l’il furry critters. She’s Ellie May Clampitt and I love her for it. There’s the Dopers For Carrie mantra. Tshirts will be distributed before the next show. ---
**Author:** ![tnetennba](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7993a0/32.png) [@tnetennba](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tnetennba)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2005, 3:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-4-26/301161/253 "2005-04-28T15:27:16Z")
As I said to my girlfriend (who was rooting for Connie), “He did sing Nickelback.” She nodded in understanding. Scott isn’t just a bad singer though, fessie. He’s surly and inarticulate and make-believe ghetto and self-absorbed. I thought it was very disrespectful to his parents to talk about giving his son “the things he never had.” Well, it looks like the boy had a roof over his head and three (or eight) meals a day, so what’s he complaining about? Not having a super-Nintendo when he was 12 and a beemer when he turned 16? What a brat. Also, he claps for himself. Also, he mumbles into his chin when he gets negative criticism, and he sulks, and he looks like he might sock someone. Also, and most importantly, he sucks. ---
**Author:** ![annieclaus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b5a626/32.png) [@annieclaus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/annieclaus)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2005, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-4-26/301161/254 "2005-04-28T15:35:34Z")
> [@cricetus](#): > > Also, and most importantly, he sucks. Yes, but one of two things is going on: 1. Lots and lots of people are voting for him (or not so many people are voting for him multiple times) with the result that he is still around in the Final Five. We cannot assume WHY they are voting for him. Just that they are. OR 2. FOX (or the program producers or a combination of both) is totally ignoring the votes and manipulating the results for their own benefit. What’s the benefit? Buzz for one thing. . . and an increased number of eyeballs for the next week’s shows. I would hate to think that it’s #2. But I am totally perplexed by #1. ---
**Author:** ![tdn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/94ad74/32.png) [@tdn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tdn)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2005, 3:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-4-26/301161/255 "2005-04-28T15:37:24Z")
> [@cricetus](#): > > As I said to my girlfriend (who was rooting for Connie), “He did sing Nickelback.” She nodded in understanding. Not being up on the pop music that the kids today are listening to, I don’t really understand this comment. Is Nickelback a sucky band or something? Judging Connie on his own merits, I thoroughly enjoyed his performance. Enough so that I rewound to watch it a second time. ---
**Author:** ![fessie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c37758/32.png) [@fessie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fessie)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2005, 3:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-4-26/301161/256 "2005-04-28T15:39:33Z")
Scott’s a bit socially retarded, I’ll give you that. I think he’s done remarkably well for himself, given his low-class-ness. It’s true that when he quits singing and starts talking, he sounds bad. But I do like his voice. I hope he runs into the right people & develops some social graces, but it’s probably unlikely. Reminds me of Mike Tyson in a way. Bo’s still my babe. I’m liking that facial hair! ---
**Author:** ![tdn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/94ad74/32.png) [@tdn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tdn)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2005, 3:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-4-26/301161/257 "2005-04-28T15:39:45Z")
> [@annieclaus](#): > > 1. FOX (or the program producers or a combination of both) is totally ignoring the votes and manipulating the results for their own benefit. Not the first time I’ve heard this allegation, but could it be true? Wouldn’t this violate the quiz show laws enacted in the 60s? ---
**Author:** ![woodstockbirdybird](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/woodstockbirdybird/32/7905_2.png) [@woodstockbirdybird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/woodstockbirdybird)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2005, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-4-26/301161/258 "2005-04-28T15:40:04Z")
> [@cricetus](#): > > I don’t have a problem with Bo’s vocals, just his song selection. I think the main reason people liked him at first is because he was keeping it real and it was a breath of fresh air on this show, and no one’s noticed that the air ain’t that fresh anymore. Well, I’d go so far as to say he’s still (pretty much) a breath of fresh air on that show. But that’s the qualifier: _on that show_. It’s easy to seem “different” or “edgy” when you’re up against teenyboppers hoping to be the next Celine or Whitney or Josh Grobin. But by any vaguely normal pop music standard, he’s definitely stale. If this was the 70s - or even the early 90s, with all that Black Crowes/shit-rock revival stuff - he might seem like a “rocker”. I’m just surprised that so many people seem to give him that credit outside the bounds of AI (in the larger music world, I mean). I’m not saying he can’t sing. I’m just saying that you can walk into any bar anywhere in America and find someone who can sing just as well if not better. Although, like I said, compared to the other contestants, he’s definitely the standout now, if not necessarily for his talent. ---
**Author:** ![tnetennba](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7993a0/32.png) [@tnetennba](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tnetennba)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2005, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-4-26/301161/259 "2005-04-28T15:43:54Z")
Scott isn’t really lower class. He’s from the burbs. It’s all an act. Shaker Heights is actually a pretty nice burb. He was probably stable middle class but went to school with rich preppies and got the idea he was underprivileged. There was a story two years ago about how most of America is fat and voted for Ruben because he was fat. I thought it was ludicrous, but the endurance of Scott makes me think there might be something to it. ---
**Author:** ![annieclaus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b5a626/32.png) [@annieclaus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/annieclaus)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2005, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-4-26/301161/260 "2005-04-28T15:48:34Z")
> [@tdn](#): > > Not the first time I’ve heard this allegation, but could it be true? Wouldn’t this violate the quiz show laws enacted in the 60s? This is not a quiz show. It’s a talent show. And I don’t know if the rules apply here. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-4-26/301161.md?page=12) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-4-26/301161.md?page=14)