# American Idol 4/3 - 4/4 **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [April 2, 2007, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-4-3-4-4/398465 "2007-04-02T20:18:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![scotandrsn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a4c791/32.png) [@scotandrsn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scotandrsn)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2007, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-4-3-4-4/398465/81 "2007-04-04T16:17:47Z")
[QUOTE=scotandrsn] Really? A few minutes ago, it was Haley, then Gina. Jordin was third from the bottom. Damn. [/QUOTE] Today, DialIdol lists Melinda Phil Sanjaya Chris Blake Jordin Gina Lakisha Haley I’m tellin’ ya, there’s something skewed about the West Coast results on that site. ---
**Author:** ![Nature\_s\_Call](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nature_s_call/32/19006_2.png) [@Nature\_s\_Call](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nature_s_Call)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2007, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-4-3-4-4/398465/82 "2007-04-04T16:19:46Z")
[QUOTE=OpalCat] Oh I loved Simon’s response to Sanjaya: (paraphrased): let’s try a different angle tonight: It was great! [/QUOTE] I agree, and laughed out loud when Simon said this. Not to nitpick, but I got a kick out of the word he actually used, “Incredible.” I’ll bet Simon carefully chose this word, which of course strictly means nothing more than “unbelievable.” ---
**Author:** ![gigi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a587f6/32.png) [@gigi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gigi)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2007, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-4-3-4-4/398465/83 "2007-04-04T16:33:19Z")
[QUOTE=McNew] After Simon’s comment, the camera went back to Ryan and Sanjaya and you could see (but barely hear) Sanjaya yelling to Simon “welcome to the universe of SANJAYA!!!” I think he actually thought Simon was coming around and finally acknowledging Sanjaya’s awesome talents. [/QUOTE] Thanks–I missed that part and was dying to find out what he could say to that. :rolleyes: indeed. Go away now. ---
**Author:** ![vivalostwages](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d07c76/32.png) [@vivalostwages](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vivalostwages)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2007, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-4-3-4-4/398465/84 "2007-04-04T16:40:48Z")
I’m with **yellowval** on the ratings. I cast votes for Melinda, Jordin and a couple others I can’t recall right now. Sanjaya and Haley: GO HOME ALREADY!! ---
**Author:** ![vivalostwages](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d07c76/32.png) [@vivalostwages](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vivalostwages)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2007, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-4-3-4-4/398465/85 "2007-04-04T16:42:11Z")
Oh, and I usually like Lakisha, but I’ve noticed something “tinny” in her voice. Do the rest of you hear it? ---
**Author:** ![MoodIndigo1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e8c25b/32.png) [@MoodIndigo1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MoodIndigo1)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2007, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-4-3-4-4/398465/86 "2007-04-04T16:42:56Z")
Well, according to Dialidol, only Melinda is totally safe. Phil and Sanjaya second and third? Lakisha second to last? Weird. ---
**Author:** ![ouryL](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ouryl/32/6067_2.png) [@ouryL](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ouryL)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2007, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-4-3-4-4/398465/87 "2007-04-04T17:10:14Z")
Except for Melinda, they were all so awful!! :eek: NOT!! 😃 Some were just merely boring - blah blah blah!!! :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2007, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-4-3-4-4/398465/88 "2007-04-04T19:50:28Z")
Sanjaya \*third \* on the […biting tongue for CS…] frigging list? Holy frigging cow. What a joke. No frigging way that mother frigger belongs in the top frigging three. Damn it. Just plain damn it. George W. Bush as our president and Michael Jackson Jr as our Idol. What’s next? Keith Richards as Surgeon General? Ward Churchill as Poet Laureat? Rush Limbaugh as Secretary of Education? How about Pauly Shore for an AMPAS Lifetime Acheivement Award? Jesus, people. Damn. ---
**Author:** ![OpalCat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/8edcca/32.png) [@OpalCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OpalCat)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2007, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-4-3-4-4/398465/89 "2007-04-04T20:05:13Z")
[QUOTE=Nature’s Call] I agree, and laughed out loud when Simon said this. Not to nitpick, but I got a kick out of the word he actually used, “Incredible.” I’ll bet Simon carefully chose this word, which of course strictly means nothing more than “unbelievable.” [/QUOTE] Thank you! I knew what I said wasn’t right but I couldn’t remember what the actual word was that he used. I tried to Google for it but came up with diddly squat. ---
**Author:** ![Charlie\_Tan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/charlie_tan/32/12582_2.png) [@Charlie\_Tan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Charlie_Tan)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2007, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-4-3-4-4/398465/90 "2007-04-04T20:11:32Z")
**Lib** , there’s no ban on using expletives in this forum. Haley can misbehave with me any time she feels like it. Consider this an open invitation. As for being an the next AI, not likely. Not enough star quality. Actually, Jordin is gearing up as the frontrunner. Not that I’d buy an album with her or see a show, but I think she’d work very well. When wil the producers pick a theme that leaves the big voice girls exposed for their lack of range (i.e. in genres) ? A rock theme would be nice. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2007, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-4-3-4-4/398465/91 "2007-04-04T20:29:46Z")
These standards are meat and drink to us in the **~99** household. This is why **kaylasmom** and I spent so much of last night’s show shouting derisive scorn at the judges. Blake and Phil both deserved lambasting for their wooden performances (Phil was worse than Blake, FWIW, but YOU DO NOT SING A FOUR MINUTE SONG WHEN YOU ARE ONLY GIVEN TWO MINUTES TO SING, MR. BEAT-BOX!!!). Melinda was flawless. My first feeling was that they should have saved her for last, but about halfway through the show I changed my mind. She should have gone FIRST, and everybody who followed her should have been told why they didn’t measure up to the standard she set. Simon telling her that the verse was _boring_ was arrogant, ignorant and _ **WRONG** _. Frankly, I think Simon just doesn’t like the Great American Songbook. How else to explain him airing as a complaint the fact that a song, arrangement, or performance is “old-fashioned”? If you don’t want the classics treated with the respect they deserve, you shouldn’t schedule them. Lakisha should go home, just because of implying that Tony Bennett and his instruction should go to hell. Oh, and because she couldn’t find the right key for the first 2/3 of her performance. Haley, please decide how you feel as you sing _Ain’t Misbehavin’_; bluesy, torchy, or vampy. The smorgasbord of styles you tried to give us just. didn’t. work. Gina, good job on _Smile_. Tasteful, understated, and you kept the microphone in front of your mouth so I didn’t have to look at your tongue stud. The red mezzanine on your hair was unfortunate, but I suppose it couldn’t be helped. Sanjaya, you sounded like you were singing karaoke. It was not anything to rate an impression. And the suit makes you look, as **Liberal** so astutely points out, creepy. Jordin, and Chris R. Please forgive me, but I can’t remember what either of you sang. I can only say that Jordin’s performance was good, and Chris’s wasn’t. And who was it above that said they didn’t like Melinda’s hair? C’mon! Who doesn’t think [D.W. is adorable](http://www.k12.nf.ca/perlwin/dwfriends.html)? ---
**Author:** ![Caridwen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c89c15/32.png) [@Caridwen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Caridwen)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2007, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-4-3-4-4/398465/92 "2007-04-04T21:16:07Z")
I listen to the show (TV’s in the other room) and don’t actually watch them so I get the names mixed up. I sort of like it that way and I don’t have to look at Ryan or Paula. I guess I liked Phil more than most people did. He did have a very effortless Frank Sinatra quality when he sang last night and I liked it. He wasn’t the best but he wasn’t as terrible as they thought he was. I thought they were all pretty good. My least favorite was Sanjaya. I think he’d be perfect on a cruise ship and I don’t mean that in a bad way. His voice isn’t terrible but it’s not that strong. ---
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2007, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-4-3-4-4/398465/93 "2007-04-04T21:53:14Z")
Btw…I’m about to leave on my first ever cruise. After 6 seasons of AI telling me that “cruise ship” is the bottom rung of the entertainment ladder\*… I’m not sure if I should partake in any of the entertainment offered, or check it out and find that Sanjaya should only be so lucky…or what. \*Actually, in Simon’s World, I believe it goes, from worst to best: 1. Theme Park 2. Cruise Ship 3. Cabaret ---
**Author:** ![Soapbox\_Monkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ed655f/32.png) [@Soapbox\_Monkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Soapbox_Monkey)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2007, 10:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-4-3-4-4/398465/94 "2007-04-04T22:27:22Z")
[QUOTE=McNew] After Simon’s comment, the camera went back to Ryan and Sanjaya and you could see (but barely hear) Sanjaya yelling to Simon “welcome to the universe of SANJAYA!!!” I think he actually thought Simon was coming around and finally acknowledging Sanjaya’s awesome talents. [/QUOTE] He’s like the Borg. Resistance is futile. Once he wins the competition you’ll start to come around. ---
**Author:** ![Rilchiam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2bfe46/32.png) [@Rilchiam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rilchiam)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2007, 11:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-4-3-4-4/398465/95 "2007-04-04T23:03:13Z")
[QUOTE=jsc1953] Actually, in Simon’s World, I believe it goes, from worst to best: 1. Theme Park 2. Cruise Ship 3. Cabaret [/QUOTE] I think Simon gets too much static for those comments. He’s basically telling people they still have potential to make a living as a singer. If he said, “You **couldn’t even** get a job on a cruise ship,” that’d be harsh. All he’s saying is that he doesn’t think someone is going to be a star. And most people aren’t. ---
**Author:** ![Rube\_E.Tewesday](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f0a364/32.png) [@Rube\_E.Tewesday](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rube_E.Tewesday)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2007, 11:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-4-3-4-4/398465/96 "2007-04-04T23:33:31Z")
[QUOTE=Rilchiam] I think Simon gets too much static for those comments. He’s basically telling people they still have potential to make a living as a singer. If he said, “You **couldn’t even** get a job on a cruise ship,” that’d be harsh. All he’s saying is that he doesn’t think someone is going to be a star. And most people aren’t. [/QUOTE] That’s my take on it, too. Somebody who can make a living singing on cruise ships is doing so much better than the average musician, it ain’t funny. ---
**Author:** ![rockle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/73ab20/32.png) [@rockle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rockle)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2007, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-4-3-4-4/398465/97 "2007-04-04T23:45:54Z")
[QUOTE=Rube E. Tewesday] That’s my take on it, too. Somebody who can make a living singing on cruise ships is doing so much better than the average musician, it ain’t funny. [/QUOTE] Case in point: Jennifer Hudson, who actually _was_ [a singer on a cruise ship](http://www.blingo.com/search?q=jennifer+hudson+cruise&sourceid=firefox&s=0&s=0) before “Idol.” And Oscar. ---
**Author:** ![rockle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/73ab20/32.png) [@rockle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rockle)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2007, 1:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-4-3-4-4/398465/98 "2007-04-05T01:24:16Z")
[QUOTE=rockle] … I understand that Simon & Co. want these kids to take the old songs and do something “fresh and exciting” with them, but then we run the risk of going to that very unpleasant Michael Bublé place. And I think we got _awful_ close, anyway. … [/QUOTE] See? I _warned_ you people. Maybe I _wasn’t_ drunk, after all. Also: [Michael Bublé](http://imdb.com/gallery/granitz/5428/Events/5428/MichaelBub_Pimen_11532358_400.jpg.html?hint=nm0117826) and [Peter DeLuise](http://imdb.com/gallery/hh/0217938/HH/0217938/PD8x10.jpg.html?path=pgallery&path_key=DeLuise,%20Peter) … separated at birth? The likeness _is_ a little freaky. ---
**Author:** ![rockle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/73ab20/32.png) [@rockle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rockle)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2007, 1:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-4-3-4-4/398465/99 "2007-04-05T01:32:42Z")
This show is bullshit. I almost don’t want to watch any more. (I will, because I have no spine or will power, but I almost don’t want to.) ---
**Author:** ![Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kolak_of_twilo/32/73_2.png) [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolak_of_Twilo)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2007, 1:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-4-3-4-4/398465/100 "2007-04-05T01:34:12Z")
Would someone please spoiler box the bottom three and who got the boot for me? I’m at work again this week and really don’t want to have to wait. Thanks. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-4-3-4-4/398465.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-4-3-4-4/398465.md?page=6)