# American Idol 4/5-6

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-4-5-6/297863>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [April 5, 2005, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-4-5-6/297863 "2005-04-05T16:57:13Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 5\
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**Author:** ![gigi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a587f6/32.png) [@gigi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gigi)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2005, 12:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-4-5-6/297863/141 "2005-04-08T12:42:57Z")

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> [@Jaade](#):
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> Some people tend to embellish their uh…monetary value on those types of websites. 😉

He has a 15-inch penis?!? 😛 j/k

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**Author:** ![foolsguinea](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foolsguinea/32/14751_2.png) [@foolsguinea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/foolsguinea)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2005, 10:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-4-5-6/297863/142 "2005-04-08T22:39:29Z")

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> [@threeorange](#):
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> The two performers from this season most actually similar to Bo are the aforementioned Nadia, and the recently departed Jessica. Jessica was viewed as “occupying the same box” as Carrie, apparently for no other reason than she was a white blonde woman.
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> I could go on, but I hope you see my point-that meaningful comparisons between contestants can only be made if one is willing to compare across lines of gender and/or race. However, if this isn’t happening on these boards (where people are smart enough to know better), I suspect it won’t be happening among the general AI voting public, either.
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> Thank you for allowing me to rant mildly on a trivial topic. 🙂

Well, the contender’s sex makes a big difference to perception. Also physical appearance, as viewers tend to use that to remember people whose voices aren’t that familiar yet, considering it’s on television.

Lindsay was stylistically very close to both Jessica & Bo, & not as good.

Jessica was stylistically similar to Bo, & _physically_ similar to Carrie; she got voted out a week she sang Leann Rimes–not a rocking song, so she looked like Carrie with less of a big voice. It’s a shame, since devoid of visuals, I can imagine Jessica as having a _great_ pop-radio voice. (Unlike, say, Scott or Anthony.)

But I agree that Nadia & Vonzell are unalike. There’s a demographic thing going on here that has little to do with singing style & more to do with fans’ self-identity & perception.

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**Author:** ![Jaade](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/dfb087/32.png) [@Jaade](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jaade)\
**Post date:** [April 9, 2005, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-4-5-6/297863/143 "2005-04-09T20:10:28Z")

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> [@vivalostwages](#):
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> I hadn’t really watched the show before and thus hadn’t seen or heard Fantasia before either.
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> I still wish I hadn’t.

I couldn’t even watch her last season. I was floored when she won and hearing her this week reminded me of why I was completely unimpressed with her vocal style.

Polling my ready-made AI audience (my teenage daughters 13 and 14) I find that I am not alone. They didn’t like her either.

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**Author:** ![Biggirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biggirl/32/3294_2.png) [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)\
**Post date:** [April 9, 2005, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-4-5-6/297863/144 "2005-04-09T20:36:21Z")

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All this Fantasia hate should convince you all that I am the Ear Of America! I’ve said this before and I’ll say it again: All my taste is in my mouth---- and it’s delicious!

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**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\
**Post date:** [April 9, 2005, 10:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-4-5-6/297863/145 "2005-04-09T22:06:47Z")

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I think Fantasia can sing okay. I just don’t like her attitude. She’s a bit of a crybaby, and takes all criticism personally. She seemed to be like “y’all owe this to me” the whole season last year. That smarminess comes across to me in her performances.

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