# American Idol - 5/17

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [May 16, 2005, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-5-17/304128 "2005-05-16T20:34:59Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Hal\_Briston](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a9a28c/32.png) [@Hal\_Briston](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hal_Briston)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2005, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-5-17/304128/1 "2005-05-16T20:34:59Z")

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Yeah, I know, it’s a day early, but I’ll be leaving to go on vacation in a few hours.

So, [betonsports.com](http://betonsports.com) has finally gotten around to updating their _AI_ odds. Here’s what we’ve got:

**Carrie Underwood** : -140 ($140 bet gets you $100 profit)  
**Bo Bice** : +110 ($100 bet gets you $110 profit)  
**Vonzell Solomon** : +400 ($100 bet gets you $400 profit)

No real surprises, but if they had given Bo something like a 2:1 odds, I’d be sorely tempted to lay down a few bucks on him.

Oh, and don’t forget – bonus show this week. Some sort of _Worst Auditions_ or something on Thursday (although somehow, I have a feeling Ryan may give this a passing mention or two during the regular shows :rolleyes: ).

Ok, carry on with the general _Idol_ chatter…

…while I do my best to spend the week at a resort without finding out who gets the boot until I get home and watch it.

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**Author:** ![Good\_Egg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/96bed5/32.png) [@Good\_Egg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Good_Egg)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2005, 1:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-5-17/304128/2 "2005-05-17T01:17:09Z")

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Admit it, **Hal.** You are _really_ going to New York to visit your amour, Constantine.  
The worst? Oh wonder! I get to see Leroy? I hope.

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**Author:** ![Indygrrl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/58f4c7/32.png) [@Indygrrl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Indygrrl)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2005, 1:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-5-17/304128/3 "2005-05-17T01:31:43Z")

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I don’t get why Carrie is favored to win. Is it because she’s blonde?

I’m hoping it will end up Bo and Vonzell, but I fear that it will be Bo and Carrie. As long as Bo wins, I’ll be satisfied. If Carrie wins, I’m not watching next season.

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**Author:** ![rockle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/73ab20/32.png) [@rockle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rockle)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2005, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-5-17/304128/4 "2005-05-17T16:32:33Z")

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**Inygrrl** , I feel your pain … of course, I said the same thing the week Carmen-the-Goat-Girl did not get sent home (because Craggle Clark was send packing). “I’m furious and I will never watch again!” And yet, the show continues to suck me in, week after gosh darn week. I’m pathetic, really. But then I consider my CD collection and realize: I only own one album from an Idol contestant, and it’s Kim Locke, so probably I will buy Bo’s record if he doesn’t win.

This information will not help you, of course, but I thought I’d share.

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**Author:** ![Good\_Egg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/96bed5/32.png) [@Good\_Egg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Good_Egg)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2005, 5:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-5-17/304128/5 "2005-05-17T17:02:16Z")

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Anyone have info on “theme”?

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**Author:** ![Brynda](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e79b87/32.png) [@Brynda](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Brynda)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2005, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-5-17/304128/6 "2005-05-17T17:34:24Z")

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> [@Indygrrl](#):
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> I don’t get why Carrie is favored to win. Is it because she’s blonde?
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> I’m hoping it will end up Bo and Vonzell, but I fear that it will be Bo and Carrie. As long as Bo wins, I’ll be satisfied. If Carrie wins, I’m not watching next season.

Yes, since all the other winners have been blonde…  
:dubious:

She can sing. People like her voice and like her.

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**Author:** ![YWalker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/6f9a4e/32.png) [@YWalker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/YWalker)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2005, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-5-17/304128/7 "2005-05-17T17:38:27Z")

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> [@Indygrrl](#):
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> I don’t get why Carrie is favored to win. Is it because she’s blonde?

If I recall correctly, I don’t think I’ve ever seen Carrie voted into the bottom three. This seems to suggest she has a very powerful fan base.

She’s my least favorite of the current three, but I don’t think she’s untalented. She just isn’t overburdened with charisma.

Vonzell is my favorite, but I’m betting she’s out of there tomorrow night.

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**Author:** ![shadowfax33](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/65b543/32.png) [@shadowfax33](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/shadowfax33)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2005, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-5-17/304128/8 "2005-05-17T17:43:38Z")

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> [@Good Egg](#):
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> Anyone have info on “theme”?

I heard that it will be three songs each, one chosen by judges, one by the performer, and one by a guest judge. There’s a rumour that Bo’s judge-selected song will be “Satisfaction.”

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**Author:** ![yellowval](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/919ad9/32.png) [@yellowval](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yellowval)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2005, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-5-17/304128/9 "2005-05-17T19:17:19Z")

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Thank goodness for American Idol. It’s giving me something to look forward to on today, the most crappiest of days I’ve had in a long time. And if **shadowfax** ’s spoiler is correct, I’m going to be a very happy girl in just a few hours. Thanks for that! 🙂

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**Author:** ![koeeoaddi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/koeeoaddi/32/408_2.png) [@koeeoaddi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/koeeoaddi)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2005, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-5-17/304128/10 "2005-05-17T19:30:18Z")

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I have to work tonight, but since this thread is usually better than the show, I’ll be counting on y’all for the blow by blow.

Anyone want to call in a Bo vote or two for me? 🙂

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**Author:** ![shadowfax33](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/65b543/32.png) [@shadowfax33](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/shadowfax33)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2005, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-5-17/304128/11 "2005-05-17T19:42:01Z")

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More spoilers…  
According to the AP, NEW YORK May 13, 2005 — Record mogul Clive Davis is returning to “American Idol” to give his expert opinion on this year’s remaining finalists.

From a post on the spoilers thread over at TWoP, [spoiler]  
Singer Choice

Bo - Old Time Rock and Roll (Bob Seger)  
Carrie - Wild Angels (Martina McBride)  
Vonzell - Something to Talk About (Bonnie Raitt)

Judge’s Choice

Bo - Satisfaction (Rolling Stones - chosen by Paula)  
Carrie - I Feel Like a Woman (Shania Twain - chosen by Randy)  
Vonzell - On the Radio (Donna Summer - chosen by Simon)

Clive Davis’ Choice

Bo - Sweet Home Alabama (Lynyrd Skynyrd)  
Carrie - Crying (Roy Orbison)  
Vonzell - Power Of Love (Celine Dion)  
[/spoiler]

I have no idea whether or not the spoiler from TWoP is accurate, so I’d take it with several grains of salt. Maybe even a handful.

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**Author:** ![dragongirl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b38774/32.png) [@dragongirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dragongirl)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2005, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-5-17/304128/12 "2005-05-17T20:08:47Z")

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If that song spoiler is true, Bo is going to be awesome!

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**Author:** ![Queen\_Tonya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/4491bb/32.png) [@Queen\_Tonya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Queen_Tonya)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2005, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-5-17/304128/13 "2005-05-17T20:57:49Z")

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We knew this season couldn’t end without hearing Bo do Sweet Home Alabama, either that or Drift Away, and we’ve still got next week to hope for that. 🙂

**rockle** given our taste similarities so far, would it surprise you at all to know the only AI disc I’ve ever bought was Kim Locke’s too? Ok, I _own_ Season 2’s holiday schmaltz CD but I didn’t buy it, so that one doesn’t count.

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**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2005, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-5-17/304128/14 "2005-05-17T21:03:41Z")

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> [@shadowfax33](#):
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> I have no idea whether or not the spoiler from TWoP is accurate, so I’d take it with several grains of salt. Maybe even a handful.

A different source says “Don’t Let the Sun Go Down on Me” for Bo.

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**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2005, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-5-17/304128/15 "2005-05-17T21:11:47Z")

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Wow, if the TWoP spoiler is right, Clive’s choices are absolutely perfect. As you might expect, I guess.

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**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2005, 9:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-5-17/304128/16 "2005-05-17T21:40:02Z")

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If that spoiler is right, Carrie is in trouble, methinks. I am not convinced she has the chops to pull Clive’s choice off.

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**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2005, 9:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-5-17/304128/17 "2005-05-17T21:52:40Z")

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> [@RickJay](#):
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> If that spoiler is right, Carrie is in trouble, methinks. I am not convinced she has the chops to pull Clive’s choice off.

I disagree, RickJay. As she proved with _Alone_, she can belt out the high notes with beautiful tone, and Orbison gives her the opportunity to do exactly that.

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**Author:** ![ZeroGyro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/e47774/32.png) [@ZeroGyro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ZeroGyro)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2005, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-5-17/304128/18 "2005-05-17T21:59:20Z")

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I gotta say, if that’s what he’s going to sing, Bo’s tunes are pretty boring. More overplayed classic rock. I love classic rock, but I really don’t need to hear those tunes again and highly doubt he’ll do anything interesting or new with them. However, I know tons of people (especially Bo’s base) will love to hear them, so it’s great for him in context of the competition.

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**Author:** ![rockle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/73ab20/32.png) [@rockle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rockle)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2005, 10:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-5-17/304128/19 "2005-05-17T22:32:12Z")

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> [@Queen Tonya](#):
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> **rockle** given our taste similarities so far, would it surprise you at all to know the only AI disc I’ve ever bought was Kim Locke’s too? Ok, I _own_ Season 2’s holiday schmaltz CD but I didn’t buy it, so that one doesn’t count.

Acquitted on a technicality. 😉

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**Author:** ![rockle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/73ab20/32.png) [@rockle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rockle)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2005, 11:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-5-17/304128/20 "2005-05-17T23:59:22Z")

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Hmm … so far the spoilers are wrong, because I didn’t see this song on any of the lists. I kind of feel bad for Vonzell, because she isn’t doing very well. Not awful, but not as well as she could do. Flat up until the key change, and still not quite on pitch after, except for the big notes. And her diction … does it sound to anyone else like she is singing “hode on”?

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