# American Idol - 5/17

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-5-17/304128>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [May 16, 2005, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-5-17/304128 "2005-05-16T20:34:59Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![KSO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/f07891/32.png) [@KSO](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KSO)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2005, 1:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-5-17/304128/101 "2005-05-19T01:18:55Z")

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> [@Rilchiam](#):
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> Carrie is not straight from the farm. The show has been deliberately avoiding mentioning anything that detracts from that Laurie Williams image, like the fact that she has toured with a band. She may not have quite as much experience as Bo, but she has enough that it may be that we’re seeing her Peter Principle level of ability.

Really? What’s the dope on that? I would never have guessed she has stage experience, since she’s so wooden…

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**Author:** ![Good\_Egg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/96bed5/32.png) [@Good\_Egg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Good_Egg)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2005, 1:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-5-17/304128/102 "2005-05-19T01:20:12Z")

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It was sweet that Bo teared up, though.

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**Author:** ![KarlGrenze](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/dbc845/32.png) [@KarlGrenze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KarlGrenze)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2005, 1:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-5-17/304128/103 "2005-05-19T01:21:41Z")

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Well, people like good wooden people, cuz Vonzell is gone.

Vonzell has a kid?

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**Author:** ![Susie\_Derkins](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e47774/32.png) [@Susie\_Derkins](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Susie_Derkins)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2005, 1:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-5-17/304128/104 "2005-05-19T01:23:15Z")

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Heehee!! Ryan and Bo both went to put their hands on Vonzell’s back…their hands touched, and they both jerked them away like they were on fire.

Don’t worry Bo, smarm’s not contagious.

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**Author:** ![Cockatiel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/43a26b/32.png) [@Cockatiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cockatiel)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2005, 1:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-5-17/304128/105 "2005-05-19T01:27:07Z")

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You know, before I wasn’t really sure who I liked better, Carrie or Vonzell. But just looking at that last little bit of Vonzell singing, her stage presence really shines out in comparison to Carrie’s.

I know this has been said already. Now I completely agree. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Good\_Egg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/96bed5/32.png) [@Good\_Egg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Good_Egg)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2005, 1:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-5-17/304128/106 "2005-05-19T01:27:50Z")

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The Dopers sure called most of this season! Now what are the odds on next week?

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**Author:** ![monster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ab992/32.png) [@monster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/monster)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2005, 2:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-5-17/304128/107 "2005-05-19T02:14:51Z")

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> [@Susie Derkins](#):
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> Heehee!! Ryan and Bo both went to put their hands on Vonzell’s back…their hands touched, and they both jerked them away like they were on fire.
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> Don’t worry Bo, smarm’s not contagious.

Ah ha ha! I noticed this too and cannot WAIT to see how Television without Pity chooses to write about it.

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**Author:** ![vivalostwages](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d07c76/32.png) [@vivalostwages](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vivalostwages)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2005, 4:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-5-17/304128/108 "2005-05-19T04:35:57Z")

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It came out exactly as I’d expected and hoped tonight. Good.

I find Bo and Carrie far more listenable than some of the previous singers on this show. Fantasia sounded like a thousand fingernails scraping across a blackboard all at once.

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**Author:** ![Rilchiam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2bfe46/32.png) [@Rilchiam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rilchiam)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2005, 5:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-5-17/304128/109 "2005-05-19T05:32:53Z")

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Sigh. That’s a darned shame. I had a slim hope that Carrie’s streak would end. Phooey.

You can almost always tell from Ryan’s phrasing, when he’s going down the line, which one’s out. I forget his exact words, but when he addressed Vonzell, I knew it had to be her.

Crud.

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**Author:** ![Rilchiam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2bfe46/32.png) [@Rilchiam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rilchiam)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2005, 5:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-5-17/304128/110 "2005-05-19T05:35:24Z")

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Oh, and Carrie’s Yoda impression? GMAFB.

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**Author:** ![Rainbowthief](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/4bbf92/32.png) [@Rainbowthief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rainbowthief)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2005, 7:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-5-17/304128/111 "2005-05-19T07:07:57Z")

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Crap, I was pulling for Vonzell to be Bo’s runner up. Carrie bores the piss out of me. Lovely voice, but I hate country music and Carrie often sings like she’s being forced at gunpoint.

Vonzell is the most beautiful woman ever to appear on American Idol. I’ll be shocked if she isn’t in movies and TV as well as plastered all over MTV when her CD comes out. I’ll miss her. ☹

If Bo doesn’t win, the show has to be fixed. I can’t believe that someone that talented didn’t emerge until the _fourth_ season of AI. Was Bo trapped in a cave all this time?

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**Author:** ![Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kolak_of_twilo/32/73_2.png) [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolak_of_Twilo)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2005, 7:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-5-17/304128/112 "2005-05-19T07:50:59Z")

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OK, you want predictions Good Egg, _odds_???

Easy.

Bo should win.

_Corpse-like rigormortis no rhythm can’t move to the beat pretty blond_  
Carrie **will** win.

I can’t begin to tell you how wrong I would \*like \*to be about this…

So I would say 5-1 for Bo and 1-1 for Carrie.

Yes. I am that cynical.

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**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2005, 9:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-5-17/304128/113 "2005-05-19T09:55:12Z")

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I thought the vote went well. At last, poor Vonzell was put out of her misery. Her screeching and out of tune caterwaul is blessedly gone. The one who dances like Elaine Bennis and shouts “C’mon y’all!”, smiling brightly as she sings of dark despair and tortured love, may now return to dropping letters in our mailboxes.

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**Author:** ![JThunder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e95f7d/32.png) [@JThunder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JThunder)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2005, 12:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-5-17/304128/114 "2005-05-19T12:17:51Z")

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I happen to like Carrie. I don’t mind if either her or Bo wins.

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**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2005, 1:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-5-17/304128/115 "2005-05-19T13:53:36Z")

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Me too, actually. The best two singers are in the finals. Bo is more polished than Carrie, but she can learn the skills she needs for the stage with just some good coaching. Both will have great careers. Either one winning is fine by me.

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**Author:** ![Good\_Egg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/96bed5/32.png) [@Good\_Egg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Good_Egg)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2005, 1:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-5-17/304128/116 "2005-05-19T13:57:37Z")

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As long as they don’t make a movie called From Bo To Carrie!

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**Author:** ![tdn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/94ad74/32.png) [@tdn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tdn)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2005, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-5-17/304128/117 "2005-05-19T19:41:16Z")

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> [@Liberal](#):
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> Her screeching and out of tune caterwaul is blessedly gone.

Oh good, I’m glad I’m not the only one who noticed. When she first started singing on Tuesday, I had to wonder how that woman ever got as far as she did.

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**Author:** ![vivalostwages](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d07c76/32.png) [@vivalostwages](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vivalostwages)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2005, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-5-17/304128/118 "2005-05-19T19:42:12Z")

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> [@Liberal](#):
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> I thought the vote went well. At last, poor Vonzell was put out of her misery. Her screeching and out of tune caterwaul is blessedly gone. The one who dances like Elaine Bennis and shouts “C’mon y’all!”, smiling brightly as she sings of dark despair and tortured love, may now return to dropping letters in our mailboxes.

## Yup. She also reminds me of a little giggly daddy’s girl and it was really getting on my nerves.

Hey, the Worst Auditions are on tonight (5/19). Should be amusing.

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**Author:** ![KarlGrenze](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/dbc845/32.png) [@KarlGrenze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KarlGrenze)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2005, 1:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-5-17/304128/119 "2005-05-20T01:00:59Z")

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World’s Worst Auditions! From all over the world!

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**Author:** ![KarlGrenze](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/dbc845/32.png) [@KarlGrenze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KarlGrenze)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2005, 1:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-5-17/304128/120 "2005-05-20T01:06:49Z")

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…_Sigh_ And to think those bad singers made it past the preliminary and got to watch the judges.

My friend sings better than them, and he hasn’t been able to sing in front of the judges yet. ☹

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