# American Idol  5/4 to 5/5

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**Created:** [May 3, 2010, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-5-4-to-5-5/538195 "2010-05-03T19:11:17Z")\
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**Author:** ![Pliny\_the\_younger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/aca169/32.png) [@Pliny\_the\_younger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pliny_the_younger)\
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I’m all for giving Randy the boot. I don’t think he adds one single thing to the show and mostly just annoys me (and for that reason alone, he must go! heh)

I had somewhat high-ish hopes for Ellen that she would give some feedback on the performance part of things but she’s a lame duck and, like Randy, adds nothing and you know no one takes her ideas or feedback seriously.

Kara - really dislike this woman on a thousand million levels. She can be shown the door and the Idol nation would cheer so loud you could hear it in the streets.

I love the idea of HCJ as judge, along with NPH (good choice), Quincy Jones (fine with me) and surely there’s another woman who could complement that team.

(I know. Nunya asked me my opinion but there you go.)

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**Post date:** [May 6, 2010, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-5-4-to-5-5/538195/62 "2010-05-06T17:37:34Z")

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Bring Paula back. We need a little bit of the crazy!

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**Post date:** [May 6, 2010, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-5-4-to-5-5/538195/63 "2010-05-06T19:58:14Z")

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Here’s the full list they have to choose from for Movie Soundtrack Night:

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* (Everything I Do) I Do It For You – Bryan Adams
* (I’ve Had) The Time of My Life – Bill Medley & Jennifer Warnes
* A Whole New World – Brad Kane & Lea Salonga
* Aquarius/Let the Sunshine In – The 5th Dimension
* Arthur’s Theme (Best That You Can Do) – Christopher Cross
* Beauty and the Beast – Celine Dion & Peabo Bryson
* Can I Have This Dance – Vanessa Hudgens, Zac Efron & the Cast of HS Musical
* Can You Feel the Love Tonight – Elton John & London Community Gospel Choir
* Can’t Fight the Moonlight – LeAnn Rimes
* Danger Zone – Kenny Loggins
* Don’t You Forget About Me – Simple Minds
* Endless Love – Lionel Richie & Diana Ross
* Evergreen – Barbra Streisand
* Eye of the Tiger – Survivor
* Flashdance (What a Feeling) – Irene Cara
* Footloose – Kenny Loggins
* Have You Ever Really Loved a Woman – Bryan Adams
* I’m Alright (Theme from Caddyshack) – Kenny Loggins
* Into the West – Howard Shore and Annie Lennox
* Iris – Goo Goo Dolls
* It Might Be You (from Tootsie) – Stephen Bishop
* Kiss From a Rose – Seal
* Let the Riverrun – Carly Simon
* Moon River (from Moon River) – Audrey Hepburn & Henry Mancini
* Mrs Robinson – Simon & Garfunkle
* My Heart Will Go On – Celine Dion
* One Night Only – Jennifer Hudson, Deena Jones & The Dreams
* Over the Rainbow – Judy Garland
* Separate Lives – Phil Collins and Marilyn Martin
* Summertime – Ella Fitzgerald & Louis Armstrong
* Take My Breath Away (Love Theme from Top Gun) – Berlin
* Up Where We Belong – Joe Cocker & Jennifer Warnes
* We Don’t Need Another Hero (Thunderdome) – Tina Turner
* You’ll Be in My Heart – Glenn Close & Phil Collins

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Why do they always include all those duets?

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> [@Drain\_Bead](#):
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> Here’s the full list they have to choose from for Movie Soundtrack Night:

(list of mostly slow, old songs removed)

They are following up Sinatra Week with this? Have they totally written off the under-50 audience?

Also, I’d bet on Casey doing “Eye Of The Tiger”.

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**Post date:** [May 6, 2010, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-5-4-to-5-5/538195/65 "2010-05-06T20:32:10Z")

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I’ll give Lee 50 bucks the next time I run into him if he plays _Danger Zone_ – but I have a feeling it’ll be _Iris_. And is there any chance Michael is going to do anything other than _Kiss From A Rose_? While we’re picking, I’ll say Crystal does _Take My Breath Away_.

ETA: Just remembered – top four week is when they start singing two songs each…

Re-ETA: No, wait, scratch that last one – top four week is when they _used_ to start singing two songs each. But remember, last year at this time they had them each sing on their own, and then there were two duets (which answers your question, **Drain Bead** ).

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**Post date:** [May 6, 2010, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-5-4-to-5-5/538195/66 "2010-05-06T21:10:35Z")

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I recall Katie Perry doing a good job as a guest judge (as in, she wasn’t kissing anyone’s ass and was actually giving realistic feedback). My line-up - Harry Connick Jr., Neil Patrick Harris, and Katie Perry. I also think Katie might bring a little of the crazy, too. Randy can stay or go - I don’t mind him.

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I’d give Casey 50 bucks if he’d do “Mrs. Robinson” and stare right at Kara while singing it. 😃 (He’ll probably do “Eye of The Tiger,” though. He hasn’t been very good at picking songs this year, probably because he thinks he’s something other than what he actually is.)

I think Crystal will do “Summertime.” I also think she would kick ass at “Take My Breath Away,” but she wouldn’t stoop to such a commercial song.

I think Crystal and Big Mike will attempt “Endless Love” as a duet, and it will be like Chandler and Phoebe trying to sing it on “Friends.”

I have to agree on Lee and Big Mike doing “Iris” and “Kiss From A Rose.”

The boys who don’t get to sing with Crystal will have to make an interesting choice - “Aquarius/Let The Sunshine In” would be the least romantic choice, I think.

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**Post date:** [May 6, 2010, 10:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-5-4-to-5-5/538195/68 "2010-05-06T22:09:37Z")

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I could see Crystal getting into full-on hippie chick mode and singing Janis’s version of “Summertime”, or “Aquarius/Let the Sunshine in”.

I’ll bet that Casey does “Everything I do (I do it for you)” by Bryan Adams. Unfortunately.

An interesting choice for Lee would be “Don’t You Forget About Me” by Simple Minds.

By and large, this list is the suckiest collection of MOR crap you could imagine. The American Idol song pickers have no taste. You’d think they could have at least included a track from the Blues Brothers or something. “She Caught the Katie” would be awesome. Or “Gimme Some Lovin’”, or “Sweet Home Chicago”.

Or, they could have picked something from “The Commitments”, which is one of the great sountracks of all time.

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**Post date:** [May 6, 2010, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-5-4-to-5-5/538195/69 "2010-05-06T22:35:33Z")

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If I were an American Idol song picker, this’d be my list for movie sountrack songs:

“Stuck in the Middle With You” - Stealer’s Wheel, from _Reservoir Dogs_

“Just Dropped in To See What Condition My Condition was In” - The First Edition, from _The Big Lebowski_

“Twist and Shout” - The Beatles, from _Ferris Beuhler’s Day Off_

“Mustang Sally” - The Commitments, from _The Commitments_

“Where is My Mind” - The Pixies, from _Fight Club_

“I am a Man of Constant Sorrow” - The Soggy Bottom Boys, from _O’ Brother, Where Art Thou?_

“Sweet Jane” - Cowboy Junkies, from _Prelude to a Kiss_

“I Can’t Tell You Why” - Eagles, from _Winter Passing_

“The Pusher” - Steppenwolf, from _Easy Rider_

“Sweet Emotion” - Aerosmith, from _Dazed and Confused_

“You Never Can Tell” - Chuck Berry, from _Pulp Fiction_

“Lose Yourself” - Eminem, from _8 Mile_

“Gangsta’s Paradise” - Coolio, from _Dangerous Minds_

“Bohemian Rhapsody” - Queen, from _Wayne’s World_

“You Can’t Always Get What You Want” - Rolling Stones, from _The Big Chill_

“Son of a Preacher Man” - Dusty Springfield, from _Pulp Fuction_

“The Weight” - The Band, from _Easy Rider_

“Gimme Shelter” - The Rolling Stones, from _GoodFellas_

“Shout” - Otis Day and the Nights from _Animal House_

“John the Revelator” - Son House, from _Blues Brothers 2000_

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**Post date:** [May 7, 2010, 12:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-5-4-to-5-5/538195/70 "2010-05-07T00:14:54Z")

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And for duets, “Hard Sun” as done by Eddie Vedder and Corin Tucker for the _Into the Wild_ soundtrack.

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I do like the way you think, **Sam**.

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**Post date:** [May 7, 2010, 3:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-5-4-to-5-5/538195/72 "2010-05-07T03:41:21Z")

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> [@Sam\_Stone](#):
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> I could see Crystal getting into full-on hippie chick mode and singing Janis’s version of “Summertime”, or “Aquarius/Let the Sunshine in”

It’s such an ensemble show tune, I don’t know how a single voice could sing it [right](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZglLWtkPiqM&feature=related), but I did want to point out that the original song is so much better than the 5th Dimension mash-up.

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**Post date:** [May 7, 2010, 6:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-5-4-to-5-5/538195/73 "2010-05-07T06:33:42Z")

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Given the crap songs they have to choose from and the crap band they have to use on said crap songs, I just don’t see the next show ending well.

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I could actually see “I’m Alright” being done with a decent modern arrangement.

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> [@JerseyFrank](#):
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> I could actually see “I’m Alright” being done with a decent modern arrangement.

Exactly what I thought after reading that list.

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**Post date:** [May 7, 2010, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-5-4-to-5-5/538195/76 "2010-05-07T20:17:03Z")

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Terrible list, but there are a few good songs on there… “Over the Rainbow” would be a good one for Crystal, she could Bruddah Iz it with the acoustic guitar.

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**Post date:** [May 7, 2010, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-5-4-to-5-5/538195/77 "2010-05-07T20:19:47Z")

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I also happen to like “Moon River,” and it would be nice if someone ever did it simple and acoustic the way it was in the movie.

I just don’t need to hear any Bryan Adams song ever again.

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