# American Idol Final 2, 5/25-26

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [May 25, 2010, 11:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-final-2-5-25-26/540767 "2010-05-25T23:39:40Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![notfrommensa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f14d63/32.png) [@notfrommensa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/notfrommensa)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2010, 12:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-final-2-5-25-26/540767/21 "2010-05-26T00:44:01Z")

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Did kara just say that Lee has one of the “worst” commercial voices?

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**Author:** ![Drain\_Bead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e47774/32.png) [@Drain\_Bead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drain_Bead)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2010, 12:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-final-2-5-25-26/540767/22 "2010-05-26T00:44:16Z")

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And did you hear that Crystal has a KID?

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**Author:** ![tnetennba](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7993a0/32.png) [@tnetennba](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tnetennba)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2010, 12:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-final-2-5-25-26/540767/23 "2010-05-26T00:46:59Z")

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I never got the love for BNL or Presidents of the United States. What’s more annoying, the singing-really-fast gimmick or ripping off half of a John Prine song and singing it in an inane way? I dunno. But I have deep hatred for both of them.

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**Author:** ![notfrommensa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f14d63/32.png) [@notfrommensa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/notfrommensa)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2010, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-final-2-5-25-26/540767/24 "2010-05-26T00:48:12Z")

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> [@Biggirl](#):
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> Or Mother’s Finest or Rage Against The Machine or Run DMC or The Presidents of the United States of America or Barenaked Ladies or. . .

Mothers Finest? There is someone on this board knows about Mothers Finest? Takes me back to my Ga Tech days in the late 70’s and early 80’s.

you probably know about this song

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> Whats he Got,  
> that I aint got,  
> he’s got you,  
> that’s quite a lot

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**Author:** ![Drain\_Bead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e47774/32.png) [@Drain\_Bead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drain_Bead)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2010, 12:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-final-2-5-25-26/540767/25 "2010-05-26T00:51:08Z")

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There is no fucking way that Crystal should lose this thing.

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**Author:** ![Biggirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biggirl/32/3294_2.png) [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2010, 12:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-final-2-5-25-26/540767/26 "2010-05-26T00:51:39Z")

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> [@Queen\_Tonya](#):
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> I want to see BareNaked Ladies as mentors and all the contestants singing their songs, damn!

How about The Presidents and they can tell them how to be Naked and Famous or how We’re Not Gonna Make It. And then have them all sing songs about retarded people.

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**Author:** ![Queen\_Tonya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/4491bb/32.png) [@Queen\_Tonya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Queen_Tonya)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2010, 12:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-final-2-5-25-26/540767/27 "2010-05-26T00:52:48Z")

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Awww, now I just want to hug her.

She seriously gave me chills halfway through that, then I just wanted her to hold on and make it all the way through it. Awww.

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**Author:** ![Biggirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biggirl/32/3294_2.png) [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2010, 12:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-final-2-5-25-26/540767/28 "2010-05-26T00:53:07Z")

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> [@notfrommensa](#):
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> Mothers Finest? There is someone on this board knows about Mothers Finest? Takes me back to my Ga Tech days in the late 70’s and early 80’s.
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> you probably know about this song

Being an in-your-face sorta black person, Niggers Can’t Sing Rock And Roll speaks to me.

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**Author:** ![tnetennba](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7993a0/32.png) [@tnetennba](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tnetennba)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2010, 12:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-final-2-5-25-26/540767/29 "2010-05-26T00:53:18Z")

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Well, it was a solid night. Two understated performers with good taste in music. No drama maybe, but it approached music.

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**Author:** ![notfrommensa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f14d63/32.png) [@notfrommensa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/notfrommensa)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2010, 1:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-final-2-5-25-26/540767/30 "2010-05-26T01:00:22Z")

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I think both Lee and Crystal did very well tonight. I think they were the best two of a pretty lackluster season.

I am more likely to buy something from Crystal, as I generally prefer female voices to guy’s voices.

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**Author:** ![Drain\_Bead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e47774/32.png) [@Drain\_Bead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drain_Bead)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2010, 1:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-final-2-5-25-26/540767/31 "2010-05-26T01:01:14Z")

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Yeah, Crystal looked like she was going to lose it during the entire latter half of that song and the entire critique, and I am actually somewhat impressed she managed to avoid tears.

She really did just bend Lee over her knee and gave him a spanking tonight, though.

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**Author:** ![joebuck20](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/74df32/32.png) [@joebuck20](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joebuck20)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2010, 1:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-final-2-5-25-26/540767/32 "2010-05-26T01:03:46Z")

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> [@cricetus](#):
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> So far I’ve liked all the song choices, but now we hit the coronation crap.
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> I think it’s the first time with an R.E.M. song. I’m a pretty big fan so I think I’d remember if someone had… I did figure if anyone ever did one of their tunes, it would be that one.
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> Now that that’s taken care of, and Leonard Cohen’s been done, I’ll wonder for a decade if anyone will ever do a song by Weezer or Wilco. Or better yet, The National.

I can see them doing Weezer. But my guess is that they’ll have a legitimate contestant do “Pants on the Ground” before they do anything by Wilco.

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**Author:** ![joebuck20](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/74df32/32.png) [@joebuck20](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joebuck20)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2010, 1:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-final-2-5-25-26/540767/33 "2010-05-26T01:05:28Z")

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> [@Drain\_Bead](#):
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> She really did just bend Lee over her knee and gave him a spanking tonight, though.

Now there’s an interesting visual. 😃

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**Author:** ![tnetennba](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7993a0/32.png) [@tnetennba](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tnetennba)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2010, 1:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-final-2-5-25-26/540767/34 "2010-05-26T01:28:44Z")

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I think Lee will win. I’ve wondered if Crystal is too “alternative” for the people who vote. Add in the girl vote and Lee’s got it.

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**Author:** ![LilyoftheValley](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/54ee81/32.png) [@LilyoftheValley](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LilyoftheValley)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2010, 1:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-final-2-5-25-26/540767/35 "2010-05-26T01:44:05Z")

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> [@notfrommensa](#):
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> Wow, an REM song. Is that a first on Idol?

Maybe American Idol, but not Swedish Idol in any case.

[Everybody Hurts by Lars Eriksson, 2008](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sIOuPjuHnec)  
[Everybody Hurts by Markus Fagervall, 2006](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9tNAJA4_lZg)  
ETA: Lars also sang Nirvana on Idol, which makes him maybe my favorite contestant evar.

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**Author:** ![LilyoftheValley](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/54ee81/32.png) [@LilyoftheValley](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LilyoftheValley)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2010, 1:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-final-2-5-25-26/540767/36 "2010-05-26T01:47:13Z")

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> [@cricetus](#):
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> Maybe this is the worst season evar, but this is a great finale.

I totally agree. I was hanging blinds with the show on in the background, and there was not a single song that made me cringe or want to leave the room. I actually enjoyed the whole show very much as music I could imagine listening to while I worked.

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**Author:** ![judikium](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/a9adbd/32.png) [@judikium](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/judikium)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2010, 6:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-final-2-5-25-26/540767/37 "2010-05-26T06:22:08Z")

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I actually think this might have been the best group of finale performances ever. Lee was sometimes all over the place, but for the most part, they brought it tonight, and at least we got good performances out of finalists (due in no small part to the lack of “No Boundaries”-type trainwrecks of songs).

That being said, there’s no doubt Bowersox should win this thing, but it’s looking like we’re going to have three white masculine males in a row as our Idols (and come to think of it-Crystal is the first girl in the finals since Jordin Sparks!). Which is too bad, because Lee is competent but…I still don’t think the vocals are all there. He’s got a shot at being commercially successful though, which is something I suppose.

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**Author:** ![BigBertha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/d78d45/32.png) [@BigBertha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigBertha)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2010, 6:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-final-2-5-25-26/540767/38 "2010-05-26T06:42:18Z")

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> [@judikium](#):
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> masculine males .

huh? ps Adam is masculine.

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**Author:** ![judikium](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/a9adbd/32.png) [@judikium](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/judikium)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2010, 7:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-final-2-5-25-26/540767/39 "2010-05-26T07:01:26Z")

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> [@BigBertha](#):
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> huh? ps Adam is masculine.

Eh. I was going to say “straight” but I think the point I was trying to make is that Cook won over the somewhat feminine Archuleta and Kris won over the sorta-androgynous Adam. And Lee may well win over Crystal. Grizzled guitar-playing men are in vogue for Idol- something that Lee slipped right into and it gave him a bit of a free ride imo.

P.S. I’m not going to argue that Adam isn’t masculine, but he did wear finger nail polish for gosh sakes. 😉

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**Author:** ![tnetennba](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7993a0/32.png) [@tnetennba](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tnetennba)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2010, 10:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-final-2-5-25-26/540767/40 "2010-05-26T10:57:44Z")

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DialIdol gives it to Lee.

It’s all about who votes.

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