# American Idol - Judges Choice

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**Created:** [May 11, 2009, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-judges-choice/496073 "2009-05-11T19:21:29Z")\
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**Author:** ![tnetennba](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7993a0/32.png) [@tnetennba](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tnetennba)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2009, 1:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-judges-choice/496073/81 "2009-05-13T13:56:16Z")

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Gokey will be on Monsters of Christian Music tours with Mandissa and Melinda.

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**Author:** ![Brandus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/898d66/32.png) [@Brandus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Brandus)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2009, 1:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-judges-choice/496073/82 "2009-05-13T13:56:56Z")

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I was originally pulling for Adam, but the past few performances have convinced me to favor Kris. I am tired of Adam’s high-note shriek he does EVERY song. He’s pretty much just a one-trick pony. I would say Adam is a performer, but Kris is a Musician and an Artist.

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**Author:** ![tnetennba](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7993a0/32.png) [@tnetennba](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tnetennba)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2009, 2:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-judges-choice/496073/83 "2009-05-13T14:00:19Z")

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In an alternate reality, Tatiana Del Toro cruises to to the finals with Scott McIntyre hanging in there as a distant second.

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**Author:** ![Brandus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/898d66/32.png) [@Brandus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Brandus)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2009, 2:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-judges-choice/496073/84 "2009-05-13T14:16:25Z")

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Also want to add that I thought Ryan Seacrest was kind of out of line. "You’ve already sang Queen _snicker_ and Cher _giggle_.

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**Author:** ![Long\_Time\_First\_Time](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ad7895/32.png) [@Long\_Time\_First\_Time](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Long_Time_First_Time)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2009, 2:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-judges-choice/496073/85 "2009-05-13T14:21:35Z")

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> [@Rachael\_Rage](#):
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> The thing about Adam is the show has relentlessly pushed him as a “rock star” when that’s not really his thing. I mean, he can certainly do rock and I’m sure he enjoys it and that will be an element of his career, but I think he really wants to be a male Britney Spears.

I think the reason they keep saying that Adam is a rock star is because that’s an alternative explanation for his having finger nail polish, lots of eye make-up, etc. etc. and being generally over-the-top with the colorful persona and dramatic performances. Otherwise he would come across as “too Broadway” i.e. gay and the show is really down playing that.

Ironic since Adam’s not-quite-out sexual orientation is what got him on the cover of Entertainment This Week and branded the most exciting AI contestant.

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**Author:** ![Shark\_Sandwich](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f04885/32.png) [@Shark\_Sandwich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shark_Sandwich)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2009, 2:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-judges-choice/496073/86 "2009-05-13T14:24:39Z")

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> [@RandMcnally](#):
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> I don’t like Adam, but I can see why someone would watch him. He is a performer, to say the least. But, I just can’t picture someone buying his cd and listening to it on the drive home. That’s just me though.

I’ve been saying this to my wife all season: I don’t know how Adam could be marketed. He’ll probably have a great career on Broadway, but I can’t imagine anyone running out and buying his album. There’s not a whole lot of diversity in his singing. On the plus side, if he was on the radio, you wouldn’t have to see his patented tongue-waggle move, or Elvis lip-curl.

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**Author:** ![koeeoaddi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/koeeoaddi/32/408_2.png) [@koeeoaddi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/koeeoaddi)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2009, 2:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-judges-choice/496073/87 "2009-05-13T14:26:32Z")

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> [@cricetus](#):
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> Gokey will be on Monsters of Christian Music tours with Mandissa and Melinda.

Is that what happened to Melinda? ☹

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**Author:** ![Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kolak_of_twilo/32/73_2.png) [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolak_of_Twilo)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2009, 2:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-judges-choice/496073/88 "2009-05-13T14:41:05Z")

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All along I have been expecting it to be an Adam/Danny final with Adam winning. Now for the first time I see it could easily be an Adam/Kris final and the winner being a tossup.  
Who Knew?

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**Author:** ![Drain\_Bead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e47774/32.png) [@Drain\_Bead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drain_Bead)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2009, 3:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-judges-choice/496073/89 "2009-05-13T15:04:35Z")

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I’d be happy with the outcome of an Adam/Kris finale either way, and that’s the first time that’s ever happened on this show–generally the finals consist of one person I like and one I hate, and with the exception of Jordin Sparks, usually the one I like wins. I’m still bitter about Blake getting screwed by the Puppies and Rainbows song. I don’t understand why they don’t do it like Season 5 and give them each a different song to sing.

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**Author:** ![gigi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a587f6/32.png) [@gigi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gigi)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2009, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-judges-choice/496073/90 "2009-05-13T15:57:29Z")

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> [@Rachael\_Rage](#):
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> I really, really, really want to throw all of the judges off a bridge. I hate this “see you in the finals” crap they’ve been pulling ALLL season.

Randy: Dude, you’re one of the TOP THREE this season!

No shit, Sherlock.

And Kara claiming to be the master of song interpretation?? Huh?

I ended up like **Heartless** the best and really having had enough of Adam’s tongue.

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**Author:** ![stpauler](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9d8465/32.png) [@stpauler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/stpauler)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2009, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-judges-choice/496073/91 "2009-05-13T16:10:43Z")

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Gokey:  
Dance Little Sister - I’m sorry I’ve annoyed you, but that doesn’t mean you have to yell at me throughout the whole song. I didn’t know that Paula was looking for something in his shouting range. Also, what a completely random song to be covered. Was this even released as a single?

You Are So Beautiful - I don’t understand why anyone would intentionally pick this song. It’s so K-Tel and his arrangement was predictable with its faux emotionally swelling.

Kris:  
Apologize - Kris, let go of your woobie. Please. You don’t need to play an instrument for (nearly) every performance. Your playing is adequate but it definitely doesn’t add anything to the song. Let the pros add the instruments. And no, he couldn’t do the needed high notes and it was distracting.

Heartbreaker - Once again, the guitar playing is like he took a 101 in Dave Matthews/John Mayer Comping class and he’s going to stick to that exact guitar style over and over. And over. Stop it. I’ve yet to see personality coming out of him.

Adam  
One - It sounds like Simon “helped” with the arrangement of this song. Or should we say “arrangements” as there were so many different chapters in this small novel that it lacked content. There was promise in the slow part and then some cool bits with the gospel-esque second part, and the screen could have been omitted. But it was like too many cooks in the kitchen and ended up falling flat.

Cryin’ - It wasn’t that the mix was off and we heard way too much of the backing singer, it was that she and Adam didn’t mesh at all and it was too distracting. Adam had a competent performance but it was just a bad song choice. My opinion, he should have done something contemporary like “Supermassive Blackhole” by Muse which not only would have been perfect for his voice, but its inclusion on the Twilight soundtrack would have garnered him lots of extra votes.

I still hope Adam wins as Gokey just bugs me and Kris is a singer/songwriter who has cloned the banalities of the past 15 years in an amalgam of a yawn.

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**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2009, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-judges-choice/496073/92 "2009-05-13T16:31:32Z")

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> [@gigi](#):
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> \<snip\> really having had enough of Adam’s tongue.

That’s what he said. 😃

**St.Pauler** , I don’t disagree with anything, but I think I would buy an album by Kris because he seems to like to add some funkiness to his songs, and I’m totally down with the funk.

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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2009, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-judges-choice/496073/93 "2009-05-13T16:41:01Z")

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> [@koeeoaddi](#):
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> Is that what happened to Melinda? ☹

She was already one of those before she was evn on Idol. Remember how she was a backup singer? She was a backup singer for [Michael W. Smith](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_W._Smith) (politically active right winger – soon to be seen at the Sean Hannity “Freedom Concert,” or whatever it’s called).

Here’s a [Wingnutdaily](http://worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=97839) article crowing about all the Christians on Idol and all the ones now mining the CCM genre. I always found Phil Stacey offputting and never really liked him, but I didn’t know he was this much of a nutcase:

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> “I do come from a very conservative background,” he explained. “The fact that the word ‘idol’ was in [the name of the show] was not a good thing for us.”
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> He said his family almost didn’t even watch for that reason. But in the end, Stacey was convinced that he made it on the show simply because God had a plan for him that included “American Idol.”
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> “I’m not the best singer that auditioned on Season 6 of American Idol,” he freely admitted. “There were 103,000 people that auditioned. I got there for a reason.”
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> The platform that he has now from his “American Idol” experience allows him to travel the world sharing not only his music but his love of Jesus.
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> “I think that there were a lot of people who didn’t understand why Jesus was mingling with the people he mingled with,” Stacey said. “And at the end of the day you’ve got to go where you think God is taking you, whether somebody wants you to or not. … I’m here because God put me here. God wants to do something through me.”

Here’s a couple of [MTV.com](http://MTV.com) articles about the number of Xians and worship leaders on this season’s Idol (really, the show has _always_ been heavy with church singers), and the way it works to create Xian voting blocs.

> **[MTV | Homepage - Shows & Schedules](https://www.mtv.com/?xrs=PPM-18-10caf1c)**
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> MTV brings viewers the best in lifestyle and competition reality shows, plus live events featuring the biggest names in entertainment.

> **[MTV | Homepage - Shows & Schedules](https://www.mtv.com/?xrs=PPM-18-10caf1c)**
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> MTV brings viewers the best in lifestyle and competition reality shows, plus live events featuring the biggest names in entertainment.

Poor Adam is a gay Jew. If he gets beaten by Gokey, that will be why.

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**Author:** ![well\_he\_s\_back](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/3ab097/32.png) [@well\_he\_s\_back](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/well_he_s_back)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2009, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-judges-choice/496073/94 "2009-05-13T17:01:11Z")

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I read or heard somewhere that Adam does not thing in the songs where he sticks his tongue out (ick) because it’s a vocal technique to hit the high notes. Hmmm. Cookie, for one, hit high notes well without doing that.

Anyway, I’ll be watching Lost tonight, while making small sacrifices and prayers that Gokey goes home.

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**Author:** ![vivalostwages](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d07c76/32.png) [@vivalostwages](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vivalostwages)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2009, 7:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-judges-choice/496073/95 "2009-05-13T19:12:18Z")

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Danny was fine, but I still can’t see him winning. I believe he’s leaving us.  
I liked what Kris did with “Heartless.”  
I didn’t like the way “One” was arranged.

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**Author:** ![tnetennba](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7993a0/32.png) [@tnetennba](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tnetennba)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2009, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-judges-choice/496073/96 "2009-05-13T20:42:52Z")

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It’s a distinctly American version of Christianity that muddles naked ambition with God’s will.

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**Author:** ![cactus\_waltz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/74df32/32.png) [@cactus\_waltz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cactus_waltz)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2009, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-judges-choice/496073/97 "2009-05-13T21:18:17Z")

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1. Kris is prompted to sing Apologize. Does not know what the judges are looking for.

2. Kris sings Apologize the way it is known.

3. Kris is criticized by Kara for not having done Apologize as a guitar based acoustic arrangement.

4. Kris sings Heartbreak, arranged with an acoustic guitar.

5. Kris is criticized by Kara for not having done Apologize as a guitar based acoustic arrangement.

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**Author:** ![Caricci](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/85f322/32.png) [@Caricci](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Caricci)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2009, 9:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-judges-choice/496073/98 "2009-05-13T21:24:36Z")

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Meanwhile, I missed Seacrest giving out the number to call to let Kara know to get some of that orange blush off her face.

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**Author:** ![gigi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a587f6/32.png) [@gigi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gigi)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2009, 9:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-judges-choice/496073/99 "2009-05-13T21:43:12Z")

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> [@cricetus](#):
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> It’s a distinctly American version of Christianity that muddles naked ambition with God’s will.

“God wants you to be rich”? :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

> [@Caricci](#):
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> Meanwhile, I missed Seacrest giving out the number to call to let Kara know to get some of that orange blush off her face.

Hee. We were wondering, which judge will get the least votes this year? PLEASE get rid of her.

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**Author:** ![Invisible\_Chimp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/f05b48/32.png) [@Invisible\_Chimp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Invisible_Chimp)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2009, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol-judges-choice/496073/100 "2009-05-13T22:18:13Z")

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I thought Kris’ second song was the best of the night. I thought Danny’s second was okay. I really like the tone of Danny’s voice; it’s too bad he has such horrible taste in music. I have been really liking Adam all season, but this was not his night. He is turning into a male Mariah Carey; he has show off his incredible range in every freaking song. It gets old after a while.

Given their whole bodies of work, I think it should be Adam/Kris in the final.

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