# American Idol4/28-29 **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [April 28, 2009, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol4-28-29/494633 "2009-04-28T16:48:28Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 18\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![BigBertha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/d78d45/32.png) [@BigBertha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigBertha)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2009, 2:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol4-28-29/494633/121 "2009-05-02T02:45:51Z")
Allison should do Warrior by Scandal! ---
**Author:** ![BetsQ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/fbc32d/32.png) [@BetsQ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BetsQ)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2009, 4:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol4-28-29/494633/122 "2009-05-02T04:10:32Z")
mjsbigblog is reporting that next week will be one solo each plus duets. I think that could be interesting. Who’s the poor kid who gets stuck with Danny? I’d like to hear an Allison and Adam duet. I think their voices would contrast nicely. I think Allison should do Bon Jovi. You Give Love a Bad Name? Never Say Goodbye? I’m pretty sure she doesn’t have the range for Amy Lee. ---
**Author:** ![Drain\_Bead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e47774/32.png) [@Drain\_Bead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drain_Bead)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2009, 2:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol4-28-29/494633/123 "2009-05-02T14:30:21Z")
MJ aso narrowed down the theme to “Classic rock songs of the 70s and 80s.” ---
**Author:** ![phungi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/phungi/32/395_2.png) [@phungi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/phungi)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2009, 3:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol4-28-29/494633/124 "2009-05-02T15:36:23Z")
> [@Drain\_Bead](#): > > Sundance Head did “Jeremy,” so that ship done sailed. Wow… can’t believe I missed that, although IMHO [based on that weak performance](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hHNAWdkyj3o), the AI Pearl Jam hymen still needs a good strong thrust… ---
**Author:** ![Dan\_Norder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/4af34b/32.png) [@Dan\_Norder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dan_Norder)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2009, 11:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol4-28-29/494633/125 "2009-05-02T23:32:53Z")
> [@Hal\_Briston](#): > > Since this is all an excercise in who gets to lose to Adam in the finals, you should be trying your best to keep Danny from even making it that far. No chance in hell of that happening either, but you can give it a shot. You seem overly optimistic about the chances of someone who was in the bottom two last week despite being at the top of his game. Danny was in the top two, and the other person in the top two was someone who has been in the bottom three several times., so he would at this point seem to be the clear front runner. ---
**Author:** ![Barrett\_Bonden](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/5e9695/32.png) [@Barrett\_Bonden](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Barrett_Bonden)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2009, 3:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol4-28-29/494633/126 "2009-05-03T03:31:14Z")
> [@Dan\_Norder](#): > > You seem overly optimistic about the chances of someone who was in the bottom two last week despite being at the top of his game. Based on [this](http://mjsbigblog.com/news-we-already-knew-the-producers-play-fast-and-loose-with-the-bottom-3-plus-kara-dioguardi-signed-for-one-year.htm) blog entry, Adam may not have been in the bottom two. The short version is that the New York Post published an interview with Nigel Lythgoe in which he admitted that, while the bottom three are indeed the bottom three vote-getters, the order in which the bottom three are “released” is intended to maximize drama, and does not necessarily reflect vote numbers. ---
**Author:** ![psychobunny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/54ee81/32.png) [@psychobunny](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/psychobunny)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2009, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol4-28-29/494633/127 "2009-05-04T18:49:36Z")
I totally think that Gokey, Alllison, and Adam were the top three by a mile. Amusingly, since I think Adam was probably in third place, he could have joined either group and been correct. Ryan just asked which group he belonged with, not which one was the bottom two. I hate to say it but Gokey was actually good the other night. I love Allison but her phrasing was off. Finally, why not have them do two songs each? They’re making it too easy. ---
**Author:** ![gigi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a587f6/32.png) [@gigi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gigi)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2009, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol4-28-29/494633/128 "2009-05-04T19:29:32Z")
> [@Tamara+](#): > > Allison should do Warrior by Scandal! As long as she doesn’t do “Black Velvet”. favorite of so many AI auditioners. ---
**Author:** ![tnetennba](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7993a0/32.png) [@tnetennba](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tnetennba)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2009, 10:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol4-28-29/494633/129 "2009-05-04T22:36:53Z")
I don’t understand how two songs each, one a duet, is easier than two solo songs each. ---
**Author:** ![ekweizn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7c8e57/32.png) [@ekweizn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ekweizn)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2009, 11:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol4-28-29/494633/130 "2009-05-04T23:11:04Z")
Ooh, here’s my chance to do AI math! 2[solo songs/contestants]\*4[contestants]=8[songs] (1[solo songs/contestant]+1[duet songs/pair]/2[contestants/pair])\*4[contestants]=6[songs] 8[songs]\>6[songs], ergo Adam will boost the chances of whomever he performs with. ---
**Author:** ![tnetennba](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7993a0/32.png) [@tnetennba](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tnetennba)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2009, 11:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol4-28-29/494633/131 "2009-05-04T23:15:48Z")
Well, your math notwithstanding, if I have to learn two songs, I have to learn two songs. I think the shorter part for the duet is easily matched by having to sing with another person. Mathematically, 2=2. Or 8=8, if you prefer. There are 6 songs, but 8 performances. ---
**Author:** ![koeeoaddi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/koeeoaddi/32/408_2.png) [@koeeoaddi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/koeeoaddi)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2009, 11:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol4-28-29/494633/132 "2009-05-04T23:23:41Z")
I’d give Allsion fifty cents to do a Janis tune. _Try (Just a little bit harder)_ or _Down on Me_ – she’d kill with either. ---
**Author:** ![Hal\_Briston](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a9a28c/32.png) [@Hal\_Briston](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hal_Briston)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2009, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol4-28-29/494633/133 "2009-05-05T00:07:49Z")
> [@cricetus](#): > > I don’t understand how two songs each, one a duet, is easier than two solo songs each. Six total songs vs. eight. Edit: Huh…looks like I had this window open longer than I thought… ---
**Author:** ![Hal\_Briston](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a9a28c/32.png) [@Hal\_Briston](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hal_Briston)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2009, 12:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol4-28-29/494633/134 "2009-05-05T00:10:41Z")
> [@cricetus](#): > > Mathematically, 2=2. Or 8=8, if you prefer. There are 6 songs, but 8 performances. From a time standpoint, the producers would rather have to deal with fitting in six songs rather than eight. ---
**Author:** ![Drain\_Bead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e47774/32.png) [@Drain\_Bead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drain_Bead)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2009, 12:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol4-28-29/494633/135 "2009-05-05T00:29:14Z")
MJ has some great suggestions for this week’s song choices, including the genius pick of “Gimme Shelter” for an Adam/Allison duet. ---
**Author:** ![Face\_Intentionally\_Left\_Blank](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/face_intentionally_left_blank/32/288_2.png) [@Face\_Intentionally\_Left\_Blank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Face_Intentionally_Left_Blank)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2009, 2:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol4-28-29/494633/136 "2009-05-05T02:16:02Z")
> [@Drain\_Bead](#): > > MJ has some great suggestions for this week’s song choices, including the genius pick of “Gimme Shelter” for an Adam/Allison duet. Ooh, and switch the genders for the vocals - not because of that “Adam is teh gay” tripe, but because it would work better that way. Adam would do better than Allison with the Merry Clayton part, and Allison would rock the growly Jagger part. I fear the “Rock” weeks, because we often end up with tepid covers, like Adam’s “Born to be Wild”. Maybe it’s because I listen to “Classic Rock” a lot, AI performances often fall short, to my ears. Maybe this week will be different (crosses fingers). It IS a good group this year. ---
**Author:** ![kevja](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/aeb1de/32.png) [@kevja](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kevja)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2009, 4:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol4-28-29/494633/137 "2009-05-05T04:27:11Z")
> [@Face\_Intentionally\_Left\_Blank](#): > > Ooh, and switch the genders for the vocals - not because of that “Adam is teh gay” tripe, but because it would work better that way. Adam would do better than Allison with the Merry Clayton part, and Allison would rock the growly Jagger part. > > I fear the “Rock” weeks, because we often end up with tepid covers, like Adam’s “Born to be Wild”. Maybe it’s because I listen to “Classic Rock” a lot, AI performances often fall short, to my ears. Maybe this week will be different (crosses fingers). It IS a good group this year. adam’s “born to be wild” was a broadway/vegas version. as good as his voice is, he wrecked that song. the worst performance he’s ever had. awful really. i don’t know how they’re going pick the pairs for the duets, but if i were one of the three guys left, i’d be praying that i’d be paired up with allison. male/female duets usually work better than male/male. ---
**Author:** ![Drain\_Bead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e47774/32.png) [@Drain\_Bead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drain_Bead)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2009, 10:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol4-28-29/494633/138 "2009-05-05T10:25:34Z")
> [@Face\_Intentionally\_Left\_Blank](#): > > Ooh, and switch the genders for the vocals - not because of that “Adam is teh gay” tripe, but because it would work better that way. Adam would do better than Allison with the Merry Clayton part, and Allison would rock the growly Jagger part. I was picturing it the same way. And I know the song can get cleared, because the Clark Brothers did it on The Next Great American Band. Oh, how my hopes are gonna get dashed tonight. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-idol4-28-29/494633.md?page=6)