# American Low Life Ex Pats that hide out in Foreign Countries then whine!

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-low-life-ex-pats-that-hide-out-in-foreign-countries-then-whine/598583>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [October 4, 2011, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-low-life-ex-pats-that-hide-out-in-foreign-countries-then-whine/598583 "2011-10-04T18:05:11Z")\
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**Author:** ![MPB\_in\_Salt\_Lake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c0e974/32.png) [@MPB\_in\_Salt\_Lake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MPB_in_Salt_Lake)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2011, 10:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-low-life-ex-pats-that-hide-out-in-foreign-countries-then-whine/598583/21 "2011-10-04T22:43:52Z")

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> [@Boyo\_Jim](#):
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> I think it’s about a hallucinating OP who married and was jilted by his/her identical twins, who ran off to China and inspired all those others to as well.

I understand that the Chinese food in China is not the same as the Chinese food here in America; I have some friends, Barbara and Bruce, who went to China, to Peking, where they make the duck, and they said that the food over there is just not as good, that you can’t get a sauce as thick and sweet as what they make over here…

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**Author:** ![treis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bc79bd/32.png) [@treis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/treis)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2011, 11:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-low-life-ex-pats-that-hide-out-in-foreign-countries-then-whine/598583/22 "2011-10-04T23:20:05Z")

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I’m surprised to hear that there are still blacklists in America. Even more surprised to hear that someone’s wife gets put on there as well.

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**Author:** ![aruvqan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aruvqan/32/2891_2.png) [@aruvqan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aruvqan)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2011, 11:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-low-life-ex-pats-that-hide-out-in-foreign-countries-then-whine/598583/23 "2011-10-04T23:48:32Z")

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I find it easy enough to understand.

Jackass husband heads to a foreign country, screws around and gets fired. Comes back to the US, still sucking money out of the family accounts. Tries to claim VA benefits though not entitled, spends a weekend in the VA on psych, manages to get SSDI from that. Bails back to foreign country after essentially cleaning the family out of resources, where he take sup with a 17 year old [who is old enough to get married there and in many states in the US] and gets engaged and married even though is already married so he is committing bigamy. He has at least 2 profitable businesses going and is still collecting SSDI.

I don’t blame her for being pissed off, spouses with craptastic financial records and legal issues can get one fired from jobs, or render them unable to get a good job if the perspective employer checks their history.

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**Author:** ![BeachBum2U](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/f08c70/32.png) [@BeachBum2U](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BeachBum2U)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2011, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-low-life-ex-pats-that-hide-out-in-foreign-countries-then-whine/598583/24 "2011-10-05T16:49:59Z")

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Thanks aruvqan… well put and exactly my point! Ya, apparently some people think it’s funny that a nutcase wannabe is collecting U.S. Gov. Benefits while those that actually qualify are given the bum’s rush!

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**Author:** ![BeachBum2U](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/f08c70/32.png) [@BeachBum2U](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BeachBum2U)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2011, 4:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-low-life-ex-pats-that-hide-out-in-foreign-countries-then-whine/598583/25 "2011-10-05T16:52:25Z")

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treis … it’s not a new process certain industries require security clearance in which mine did. Given the ex attempted extortion in one company, sexual harrassment in another, and had a restraining order against him for leaving a threat of killing people if they won’t hire him on a voicemail message… yep, he’s blacklisted and I was too thanks to him!

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**Author:** ![BeachBum2U](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/f08c70/32.png) [@BeachBum2U](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BeachBum2U)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2011, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-low-life-ex-pats-that-hide-out-in-foreign-countries-then-whine/598583/26 "2011-10-05T16:53:53Z")

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Boyo really? That’s what you get out of my post? humm, glad you’re there and I’m here! Not jilted obviously, wouldn’t you be relieved to be rid of something like that? Maybe not.

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**Author:** ![Mighty\_Girl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7bcc69/32.png) [@Mighty\_Girl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mighty_Girl)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2011, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-low-life-ex-pats-that-hide-out-in-foreign-countries-then-whine/598583/27 "2011-10-05T16:54:01Z")

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> [@bucketybuck](#):
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> Gypsies, tramps and thieves?

Jews, fags and gypsies? You can start a theater.

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**Author:** ![BeachBum2U](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/f08c70/32.png) [@BeachBum2U](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BeachBum2U)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2011, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-low-life-ex-pats-that-hide-out-in-foreign-countries-then-whine/598583/28 "2011-10-05T18:20:34Z")

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> [@rachelellogram](#):
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> This thread was not started in the pit, so I don’t think it’d be fair to pile shit onto the OP for its incomprehensibility. However, quite frankly, I can’t read all of that. It’s hysterical as shit, and I got stressed out halfway through trying to decode the fourth paragraph. So please, OP, calmly and concisely state the following things:
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> 1. Who is the ex-pat, in relation to you?
> 2. Can you explain how or why his criminal record would be linked to you in job interviews? Do you have the same first name as him, too?
> 3. Can you sum up your original post, and why you’re so upset, in 1 paragraph of fewer than 500 words? You could save a lot of space (and decrease reader confusion) if you leave out the little disparaging remarks on the side about vicodin, coworkers who don’t like men, and your past job interviews.

Too funny, I must sound hysterical.. I was calm when I posted it! Seriously, there was so much involved it’s a bit hard to post it without chance of sounding hysterical - sorry for stressing you out.

1. Ex (thank you God) husband
2. Criminal records do not effect me, the fact he was black listed in the industry we worked in which required security clearance prevented me from being hired in that same industry. Now divorced it may be different.
3. Didn’t post because I’m upset, posted just because I felt like posting about this situation. I thought this category was simply for rants.. sorry if it went to the wrong category.  
Bottom Line Gripe: that anyone can defraud gov. agencies in two countries, break federal laws in 2 countries, rip off children of thier education savings, own a business and still collect SSDI payments for the past 11 years.. am I the only one that sees this post being about a criminal and con, not written as a jilted ex? Please.. who wouldn’t be glad to be rid of that, I’m happy!

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**Author:** ![BeachBum2U](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/f08c70/32.png) [@BeachBum2U](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BeachBum2U)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2011, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-low-life-ex-pats-that-hide-out-in-foreign-countries-then-whine/598583/29 "2011-10-05T18:30:07Z")

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> [@Marley23](#):
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> Google suggests “facade.” I was confused, too.

Fasod; in certain dialects refers to illegal acts done under the principle of fasad - in any case this word apparently is not commonly used in reference to “superficial presentation”

Facade; derived from French dialect refers to a “front” but typically used in reference of architecture.

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**Author:** ![BeachBum2U](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/f08c70/32.png) [@BeachBum2U](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BeachBum2U)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2011, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-low-life-ex-pats-that-hide-out-in-foreign-countries-then-whine/598583/30 "2011-10-05T18:33:16Z")

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That’s where I thought I posted this, just noticed it’s under BBQ Pit, must have used the back button landing on the wrong page.

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**Author:** ![BeachBum2U](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/f08c70/32.png) [@BeachBum2U](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BeachBum2U)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2011, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-low-life-ex-pats-that-hide-out-in-foreign-countries-then-whine/598583/31 "2011-10-05T18:41:48Z")

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Hey Monkey thanks for taking notice of my spelling error “their” been spelling it wrong for about a year now, the doc says I’m fine no dyslexia here and don’t insult me with a second language… this error bugs a lot of people, but I’m ok with it for now am hoping I get over it soon though and resume spelling thier correctly, thanks!

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**Author:** ![BeachBum2U](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/f08c70/32.png) [@BeachBum2U](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BeachBum2U)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2011, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-low-life-ex-pats-that-hide-out-in-foreign-countries-then-whine/598583/32 "2011-10-05T18:47:20Z")

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Well go ahead then, the monthly benefit is now over $1,600.00 but when you do it be sure to leave the country and open a factory so you can use the SSDI money as chump change. Oh and by the way, so you’re ok that you’re chipping in on his chump change every month?

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**Author:** ![Arnold\_Winkelried](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Arnold\_Winkelried](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Arnold_Winkelried)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2011, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-low-life-ex-pats-that-hide-out-in-foreign-countries-then-whine/598583/33 "2011-10-05T18:51:31Z")

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> [@BeachBum2U](#):
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> Fasod; in certain dialects refers to illegal acts done under the principle of fasad - in any case this word apparently is not commonly used in reference to “superficial presentation”
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> Facade; derived from French dialect refers to a “front” but typically used in reference of architecture.

I’m more confused than before. I see at [wikipedia](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fasad) that fasad is “corruption, unlawful warfare, or crimes against law and order in the Muslim community. Fasad is a general concept of social disorder that, within Islamic jurisprudence, is the source of and basis for ‘Hirabah’-related laws. ‘Hirabah’ refers to illegal acts done under the principle of fasad.”

So when you Pit people who are

> [@](#):
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> deliberately and dillusionally holding high regard for their new place of residency even though the crime, laws, freedom, and everything really sucks there compared to the U.S., at the same time ripping off benefits from the U.S. so they can live a fasod in a country that could give a rats ass what or who they really are simply because they can show a wallet with a few bucks in it and a load of lies to make them impressed!

Did you mean “live a façade” (as in live a fake, superficial life), or did you mean “live a fasad” (as in live in corruption and crimes against Muslim law and order)? I am going to assume the former, though of course your ex could be living a Muslim region of China, like the Uyghur region.

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**Author:** ![kushiel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/bbce88/32.png) [@kushiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kushiel)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2011, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-low-life-ex-pats-that-hide-out-in-foreign-countries-then-whine/598583/34 "2011-10-05T20:11:26Z")

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I could be wrong, but isn’t there a law or something that allows you to file for divorce and after a certain amount of time/evidence, get it granted even if the other party disagrees? I mean, file papers, and when he never signs them or shows up for hearings, the court will eventually grant your divorce? You have emails from him and proof that he’s shacked up with this young chick.

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**Author:** ![alphaboi867](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alphaboi867/32/3898_2.png) [@alphaboi867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alphaboi867)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2011, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-low-life-ex-pats-that-hide-out-in-foreign-countries-then-whine/598583/35 "2011-10-05T21:03:34Z")

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> [@kushiel](#):
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> I could be wrong, but isn’t there a law or something that allows you to file for divorce and after a certain amount of time/evidence, get it granted even if the other party disagrees? I mean, file papers, and when he never signs them or shows up for hearings, the court will eventually grant your divorce? You have emails from him and proof that he’s shacked up with this young chick.

Depending on the law in your state it might even be possible to be granted a fault-divorce on grounds of adultery if you can prove your spouse is cohabitating with a 3rd party.

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**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2011, 3:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-low-life-ex-pats-that-hide-out-in-foreign-countries-then-whine/598583/36 "2011-10-06T03:28:28Z")

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Well, I’m a lowlife expat hiding out in Thailand. But after this OP, I don’t think I’ll be doing any whining, nosireebob. ☹

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**Author:** ![RedFury](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ec9cab/32.png) [@RedFury](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RedFury)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2011, 4:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-low-life-ex-pats-that-hide-out-in-foreign-countries-then-whine/598583/37 "2011-10-06T04:07:05Z")

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Enjoy your fasod, dude!

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**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2011, 4:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-low-life-ex-pats-that-hide-out-in-foreign-countries-then-whine/598583/38 "2011-10-06T04:33:42Z")

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OP, do you have a blog?

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**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2011, 6:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-low-life-ex-pats-that-hide-out-in-foreign-countries-then-whine/598583/39 "2011-10-06T06:59:44Z")

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> [@BeachBum2U](#):
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> Fasod; in certain dialects refers to illegal acts done under the principle of fasad - in any case this word apparently is not commonly used in reference to “superficial presentation”

And wtf is fasad?

Another one who could barely make heads or tails of the OP, sorry. Why not say at the beginning that it’s your ex-husband you’re talking about? The oblique references to “the same unusual lastname” could have referred to some nth-grade cousin you haven’t even met but whose details you’ve got from being mistaken for him, you know…  
BTW, you can reply to several posts by using the "+ button in all those you want to quote except the last one - using the regular “quote” button sends you to the editor.

> [@BeachBum2U](#):
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> Hey Monkey thanks for taking notice of my spelling error “their” been spelling it wrong for about a year now, the doc says I’m fine no dyslexia here and don’t insult me with a second language.. this error bugs a lot of people, but I’m ok with it for now am hoping I get over it soon though and resume spelling thier correctly, thanks!

“Insult you” with a second language? He was giving you the benefit of the doubt. Are you one of those people who think that being a foreigner automatically makes you undesirable and being able to speak a second language automatically makes you either a traitor or an (undesirable, of course) immigrant?

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**Author:** ![LurkerInNJ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ed655f/32.png) [@LurkerInNJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LurkerInNJ)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2011, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-low-life-ex-pats-that-hide-out-in-foreign-countries-then-whine/598583/40 "2011-10-06T18:47:13Z")

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Wait a sec…

He took your name off your account, got you 94,000 in debt, sat on his butt for 4 years and “sucked you dry”, took your children’s money, was taking your paychecks until “the day he left”, all while being a known drug addict and exhibiting improper conduct at every possible turn and you think you are “smarter than he is”😕

Why didn’t you put a stop to this nonsense when it started happening? Close out your joint accounts and open new ones in your name only and have all business and financial paperwork sent to a post office box that only you know about, dumping him when you found out about the extortion attempt, refusing to support him while he screws up and on and on. Taking charge of your situation rather than being a victim over and over and over and over again?

“I cannot and never will accept liars, cons and cheats” What exactly is it you think you were doing all that time?

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