# American missiles fired at Syria

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-missiles-fired-at-syria/783944>\
**Category:** Great Debates\
**Created:** [April 7, 2017, 2:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-missiles-fired-at-syria/783944 "2017-04-07T02:03:01Z")\
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**Author:** ![KidCharlemagne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ed8c4c/32.png) [@KidCharlemagne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KidCharlemagne)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2017, 2:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-missiles-fired-at-syria/783944/101 "2017-04-07T14:25:13Z")

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I’ll begrudgingly admit this is the first time Trump’s insanity may actually work for us. His 180 degree turnaround on Syria has got to be upsetting to other hostile actors and will make them think twice. Of course this operation was a pretty easy go decision but the decisions will only get more complex from here - and Trump and complex decisions don’t go well together. This will give him a bump in the polls - let’s just hope he doesn’t use that as a mandate to start tomahawking the whole fricking planet.

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**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2017, 2:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-missiles-fired-at-syria/783944/102 "2017-04-07T14:29:02Z")

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What is the legal basis for the president to bomb a sovereign nation without Congressional approval?

And it’s not as if Congress wouldn’t have approved. Nor was this attack a secret surprise.

What just happened?

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**Author:** ![XT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xt/32/456_2.png) [@XT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/XT)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2017, 2:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-missiles-fired-at-syria/783944/103 "2017-04-07T14:33:30Z")

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> [@AK84](#):
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> :dubious:  
> Says a source on Twitter who is **checks** an artist in Canada?

There are other sources but just use logic. Unless we gave the Russians a day or so there was no way they could get all the people AND all the planes and equipment out of the way. You keep asking what the point was, and the point was to send a message. We did that by destroying that airfield. Runway, fuel points, infrastructure, planes and equipment. There is zero chance the Russians OR the Syrians got all their stuff out of there before the missiles struck.

Even a Canadian artist on twitter can see that. 😛

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2017, 2:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-missiles-fired-at-syria/783944/104 "2017-04-07T14:35:10Z")

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> [@puzzlegal](#):
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> What is the legal basis for the president to bomb a sovereign nation without Congressional approval?

Same as it always is when presidents do this.

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**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2017, 2:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-missiles-fired-at-syria/783944/105 "2017-04-07T14:40:04Z")

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The orange jackass in chief has already been emasculated by those with the authority to do so: Judicial branch and Congress, (ban & AHCP). He’s not about to go to congress on bended knee so they can overrule his desperate need to bomb the shit out of something in the middle east. Especially if it’s going to get him lots of worldwide media attention and get everyone to stop talking about his incompetent administration and Russian ties.

Mission accomplished, Mr. President. Mission accomplished.

That’s what just happened.

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**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2017, 2:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-missiles-fired-at-syria/783944/106 "2017-04-07T14:40:20Z")

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> [@DSeid](#):
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> Nixon infamously played the part of a person crazy enough to do anything and to be unpredictable. Trump I think really is crazy enough to do anything … on random occasion even the right thing, but who knows what happens next?

Quite honestly, when Trump got to the last bit of his press conference with the praying and God bless stuff my first thought was “Hey, Middle East, you like the crazy? Well here comes some crazy.”

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**Author:** ![XT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xt/32/456_2.png) [@XT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/XT)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2017, 2:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-missiles-fired-at-syria/783944/107 "2017-04-07T14:46:39Z")

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> [@CarnalK](#):
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> Quite honestly, when Trump got to the last bit of his press conference with the praying and God bless stuff my first thought was “Hey, Middle East, you like the crazy? Well here comes some crazy.”

Yeah, I have to admit when I was watching this on CNN last night I got chills. We have a total loose cannon running a country that can casually toss 60 tomahawk missiles at an airfield in Syria (or just about anywhere else) any time the Pres has a bug up his butt. I have really mixed feeling about this strike from the perspective of what Syria did and the Russians (and Iranians) complicity, but it scares the literal shit out of me that Trump is in charge.

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**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2017, 2:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-missiles-fired-at-syria/783944/108 "2017-04-07T14:47:09Z")

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Bombing foreign nations without Congressional approval is rather old now, isn’t it? Is it even an issue? Reagan bombed Libya. Clinton bombed the Sudan. Obama dropped so many drone bombs on various countries that it was a running joke in the Onion that the drones were like his pets.

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**Author:** ![asterion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4da419/32.png) [@asterion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asterion)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2017, 2:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-missiles-fired-at-syria/783944/109 "2017-04-07T14:55:00Z")

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> [@puzzlegal](#):
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> What is the legal basis for the president to bomb a sovereign nation without Congressional approval?
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> And it’s not as if Congress wouldn’t have approved. Nor was this attack a secret surprise.
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> What just happened?

In 2013, Obama went to Congress, when many members had been calling for action, to ask for permission to take action in Syria. As soon as he asked, Congress hemmed and hawed and eventually refused to act. So instead a deal was reached where Syria’s chemical weapons were removed and destroyed.

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**Author:** ![Navy\_draftee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/ec9cab/32.png) [@Navy\_draftee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Navy_draftee)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2017, 3:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-missiles-fired-at-syria/783944/110 "2017-04-07T15:02:19Z")

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> [@asterion](#):
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> In 2013, Obama went to Congress, when many members had been calling for action, to ask for permission to take action in Syria. As soon as he asked, Congress hemmed and hawed and eventually refused to act. So instead a deal was reached where Syria’s chemical weapons were removed and destroyed.

How was the conditions of that " DEAL" verified?

About as well as Barack HUSSEIN Obama’s “DEAL” with Iran is verified ?

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2017, 3:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-missiles-fired-at-syria/783944/111 "2017-04-07T15:05:24Z")

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So after the Trumpident told the Russians what we were going to do, and Russia told the Syrians, and almost everyone on base decided to take a vacation(taking ghod knows what with them as they rushed out the gate)…after all this, what exactly was accomplished and how many of the low-level peons left behind were killed after all the bombing was over?

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**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2017, 3:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-missiles-fired-at-syria/783944/112 "2017-04-07T15:05:39Z")

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> [@Navy\_draftee](#):
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> How was the conditions of that " DEAL" verified?
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> About as well as Barack HUSSEIN Obama’s “DEAL” with Iran is verified ?

Whoa, Obama’s middle name is Hussein? Are you kidding me?

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**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2017, 3:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-missiles-fired-at-syria/783944/113 "2017-04-07T15:06:02Z")

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> [@Navy\_draftee](#):
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> How was the conditions of that " DEAL" verified?
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> About as well as Barack HUSSEIN Obama’s “DEAL” with Iran is verified ?

Here we go… :rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2017, 3:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-missiles-fired-at-syria/783944/114 "2017-04-07T15:08:58Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> after all this, what exactly was accomplished… ?

‘Now that [del]Obama’s[/del] Trump’s poll numbers are in tailspin – watch for him to launch a strike in [del]Libya or Iran[/del] Syria. He is desperate.’  
[del]10/9/12, 2:39 PM[/del]

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**Author:** ![mlees](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba8739/32.png) [@mlees](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mlees)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2017, 3:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-missiles-fired-at-syria/783944/115 "2017-04-07T15:09:21Z")

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> [@crucible](#):
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> The UN must decide that Assad’s regime is over, that a new government, perhaps one with no Syrian participation in the short term, will be imposed.

Russia (as a member of the Security Council) has a veto, though, right?

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2017, 3:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-missiles-fired-at-syria/783944/116 "2017-04-07T15:11:10Z")

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> [@Happy\_Lendervedder](#):
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> Whoa, Obama’s middle name is Hussein? Are you kidding me?

How can that possibly be true?? Does that mean he’s been muslim atheist all this time and we never knew? Someone should have told us!

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**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2017, 3:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-missiles-fired-at-syria/783944/117 "2017-04-07T15:12:12Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> How can that possibly be true?? Does that mean he’s been muslim atheist all this time and we never knew? Someone should have told us!

$5 says he was born in Kenya.

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**Author:** ![Navy\_draftee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/ec9cab/32.png) [@Navy\_draftee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Navy_draftee)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2017, 3:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-missiles-fired-at-syria/783944/118 "2017-04-07T15:13:26Z")

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Send Assad a picture of a scrufty looking Saddam Hussein being pulled out of a small cave and captured.

Include a picture of Saddam Hussein swinging from a noose after his own people hung him.

Tell Assad this is what happens to defiant rulers !

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**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2017, 3:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-missiles-fired-at-syria/783944/119 "2017-04-07T15:14:32Z")

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> [@QuickSilver](#):
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> $5 says he was born in Kenya.

Has anyone seen his birth certificate?

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**Author:** ![Navy\_draftee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/ec9cab/32.png) [@Navy\_draftee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Navy_draftee)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2017, 3:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-missiles-fired-at-syria/783944/120 "2017-04-07T15:16:19Z")

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> [@Johnny\_L.A](#):
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> ‘Now that [del]Obama’s[/del] Trump’s poll numbers are in tailspin – watch for him to launch a strike in [del]Libya or Iran[/del] Syria. He is desperate.’  
> [del]10/9/12, 2:39 PM[/del]
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> .

???

Why should President Trump give a rat’s arse about “poll numbers”?  
He doesn’t run for re-election until 3 1/2 YEARS from now ?

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