# American Presidents: Which will come first?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-presidents-which-will-come-first/88761>\
**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [October 21, 2001, 11:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-presidents-which-will-come-first/88761 "2001-10-21T23:46:04Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Bossk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7feea3/32.png) [@Bossk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bossk)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2001, 11:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-presidents-which-will-come-first/88761/1 "2001-10-21T23:46:04Z")

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A Jewish president, a black president, a female president or a gay president?

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**Author:** ![NeutronJack](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/neutronjack/32/4134_2.png) [@NeutronJack](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NeutronJack)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2001, 11:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-presidents-which-will-come-first/88761/2 "2001-10-21T23:50:55Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Bossk \*  
> \*\*A Jewish president, a black president, a female president or a gay president? \*\*

Do you require **openly** gay?

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**Author:** ![tclouie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/838e76/32.png) [@tclouie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tclouie)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2001, 11:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-presidents-which-will-come-first/88761/3 "2001-10-21T23:59:07Z")

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Jewish.

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**Author:** ![Ashtar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9fc29f/32.png) [@Ashtar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ashtar)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2001, 12:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-presidents-which-will-come-first/88761/4 "2001-10-22T00:01:50Z")

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All of the above.

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**Author:** ![pesch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pesch/32/4925_2.png) [@pesch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pesch)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2001, 12:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-presidents-which-will-come-first/88761/5 "2001-10-22T00:16:02Z")

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Coming’s overrated. Can’t they just cuddle?

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**Author:** ![BlackKnight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/eb8c5e/32.png) [@BlackKnight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlackKnight)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2001, 12:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-presidents-which-will-come-first/88761/6 "2001-10-22T00:29:49Z")

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For some reason, I think we’ll have a black female president before we have a black male president. I have no idea why I think this; it’s just a suspicion.

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**Author:** ![TV\_time](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f17d59/32.png) [@TV\_time](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TV_time)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2001, 12:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-presidents-which-will-come-first/88761/7 "2001-10-22T00:47:41Z")

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Personally, I think Powell will be the next “new” President barring (God forbid) something happening to George W.

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**Author:** ![Mudshark](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f04885/32.png) [@Mudshark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mudshark)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2001, 1:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-presidents-which-will-come-first/88761/8 "2001-10-22T01:00:18Z")

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I think we will have a woman as president soon. Then a black woman a little while later.

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**Author:** ![Ruby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/13edae/32.png) [@Ruby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ruby)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2001, 1:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-presidents-which-will-come-first/88761/9 "2001-10-22T01:04:16Z")

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My guess is either a Jewish or black man. I don’t think the voting public is ready for a woman yet if Libby Dole’s run was any indication.

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**Author:** ![dunne\_u.wurrie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/9fc29f/32.png) [@dunne\_u.wurrie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dunne_u.wurrie)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2001, 1:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-presidents-which-will-come-first/88761/10 "2001-10-22T01:15:04Z")

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> \*Originally posted by BlackKnight \*  
> \*\*For some reason, I think we’ll have a black female president before we have a black male president. I have no idea why I think this; it’s just a suspicion. \*\*

I hear you loud and clear, BK, and I think I’ve got the reason - “White America” is, generally speaking, much more threatened by black males than by black females.  
Sorry for the hijack. We now return you to your regularly scheduled programming.

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**Author:** ![MEBuckner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mebuckner/32/2896_2.png) [@MEBuckner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MEBuckner)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2001, 1:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-presidents-which-will-come-first/88761/11 "2001-10-22T01:18:21Z")

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> A Jewish president, a black president, a female president or a gay president?

Did this sound like the opening line to a joke to anyone else, or am I the only one?

“A Jewish president, a black president, a female president and a gay president walk into a bar…”

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**Author:** ![ignatzmouse](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/b2d939/32.png) [@ignatzmouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ignatzmouse)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2001, 1:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-presidents-which-will-come-first/88761/12 "2001-10-22T01:37:14Z")

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Personally, I think Powell actually wants it and, barring unforseen circumstances, has a very good chance to get it. Other than him, I don’t see many other potential black cantidates on the immediate horizon. Watts is too conservative by half, but could be the next V.P.

I think there’s a very, very good chance that Bush will choose someone other than Cheney to be his running mate. Certainly Bush no longer suffers from the seriousness issue that prompted the Cheney choice. Cheney will likely want out, and in any case will have a good excuse for health reasons. A new, younger V.P. would set the Republicans up nicely for 2008. Watts as V.P. would give Bush a political boost and might make a 2008 Powell run more difficult, and thus, unlikely - Important because I think the Republicans would rather not have Powell run.

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**Author:** ![Zap\_Rowsdower](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/3da27b/32.png) [@Zap\_Rowsdower](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zap_Rowsdower)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2001, 2:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-presidents-which-will-come-first/88761/13 "2001-10-22T02:48:46Z")

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All of them before an athiest or openly non-believer gets elected.

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**Author:** ![Rilchiam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2bfe46/32.png) [@Rilchiam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rilchiam)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2001, 5:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-presidents-which-will-come-first/88761/14 "2001-10-26T05:53:58Z")

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Black male, then female, white or black I’m not sure. Then Jewish, but never gay. Sorry.

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**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2001, 6:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-presidents-which-will-come-first/88761/15 "2001-10-26T06:07:04Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Rilchiam \*  
> \*\*… never gay. Sorry. \*\*

[Too late](http://www.salon.com/books/it/1999/04/30/lincoln/)?

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**Author:** ![Oblong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/c0e974/32.png) [@Oblong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oblong)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2001, 12:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-presidents-which-will-come-first/88761/16 "2001-10-26T12:27:57Z")

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Does the question mean “Who would be the first to be ‘electable’?” I honestly think we are at the point where if a qualified candidate were presented, all could be elected today, except the gay one. There’s still too many out there who won’t let that happen.

Condi Rice is the NSA right now and if she does well for teh next 7 years (If GW is re elected) she could be in a position to run. She’d fill two slots.

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2001, 12:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-presidents-which-will-come-first/88761/17 "2001-10-26T12:35:48Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Jack Batty \*  
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> > \*Originally posted by Rilchiam \*  
> > \*\*… never gay. Sorry. \*\*
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> [Too late](http://www.salon.com/books/it/1999/04/30/lincoln/)? \*\*

Don’t forget Buchanan!

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**Author:** ![Captain\_Amazing](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@Captain\_Amazing](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Amazing)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2001, 2:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-presidents-which-will-come-first/88761/18 "2001-10-26T14:27:02Z")

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> \*Originally posted by ignatzmouse \*  
> **Personally, I think Powell actually wants it and, barring unforseen circumstances, has a very good chance to get it. Other than him, I don’t see many other potential black cantidates on the immediate horizon. Watts is too conservative by half, but could be the next V.P.**

I don’t think Powell wants it, or at least his wife is pretty adament against him taking it, and he’s protective enough of her not to run.

I’ve always thought that Harold Ford had a chance. He’s still too young, but 10-15 years from now, I’d be suprised if he wasn’t a big wheel in the Democratic party.

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**Author:** ![John\_Corrado](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/a88e4f/32.png) [@John\_Corrado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Corrado)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2001, 2:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-presidents-which-will-come-first/88761/19 "2001-10-26T14:38:04Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Guinastasia \*  
> Don’t forget Buchanan!

Damn you, Guin, beating me to it!

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2001, 3:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-presidents-which-will-come-first/88761/20 "2001-10-26T15:53:34Z")

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A woman president would be great but I think foreign relations would be a problem. Those extremely radical Islams hate us enough as it is.

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