# American pronuncation of "Bury" - Why did Pres. Obama pronounce it as "Burr-y"?

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Why did President Obama mispronounce the word “bury” in this video?

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(4:54)

He pronounced it as “ **burr-y** ” instead of “_berry_.” Am I the only American who finds this strange? From what I understand, the standard American pronunciation is “berry.”  
Did he make a mistake? Or did he actually intend to pronounce it this way? Thanks

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You need to get out more. “Berry” isn’t anywhere near “the” standard American pronunciation of that word. In reality, “burr-y” is closest to “the” standard American pronunciation.

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> [@jayjay](#):
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> You need to get out more. “Berry” isn’t anywhere near “the” standard American pronunciation of that word. In reality, “burr-y” is closest to “the” standard American pronunciation.

Not according to OED it isn’t. _Berry_ is the pronunciation given for both the UK and US.

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> [@jayjay](#):
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> You need to get out more. “Berry” isn’t anywhere near “the” standard American pronunciation of that word. In reality, “burr-y” is closest to “the” standard American pronunciation.

Can you back that up? [Wiktionary](https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/bury) would say no.

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> Pronunciation  
> (UK, US) enPR: bĕ’-ri, IPA(key): /ˈbɛ.ɹi/  
> Rhymes: -ɛri Rhymes: -ɛɹi  
> Homophone: berry

So does [dictionary.com](http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/bury?s=t)

> [@](#):
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> Can be confused:  
> Barry, berry, bury.

But my guess is that local variants would give a wide range of pronunciations, and that’s what Obama is giving.

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> [@jayjay](#):
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> You need to get out more. “Berry” isn’t anywhere near “the” standard American pronunciation of that word. In reality, “burr-y” is closest to “the” standard American pronunciation.

I have never in my life heard anyone pronounce it “burry.” I live in Baltimore MD if that makes any difference. For that matter, never heard it pronounced like that on TV, either.

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It’s almost certainly a regional thing. To me (Ohio with Appalachian roots), either sounds reasonable, but “burry” is more so. This probably means that I’m near a boundary between dialects, but I’m not sure which way that boundary would go.

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It’s most often “burr-y” in Chicago. He wasn’t born and raised here, but he spent enough time here that his dialect is pretty Chicago. It’s perfectly normal to me, although I’m also familiar with “barry”. I just don’t use it. Burr-y 'em at their burr-ial.

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“Bury” is indeed usually homophonous with “berry.” However, it appears that Mr. Obama has at least a partial [furry-ferry merger](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English-language_vowel_changes_before_historic_/r/#Furry.E2.80.93ferry_merger). Wiki only mentions Philadelphia, but I’ve noticed it in Chicago accents as well. (And from some Texans, too.)

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> [@WhyNot](#):
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> It’s most often “burr-y” in Chicago. He wasn’t born and raised here, but he spent enough time here that his dialect is pretty Chicago. It’s perfectly normal to me, although I’m also familiar with “barry”. I just don’t use it. Burr-y 'em at their burr-ial.

Huh. I’m from here and in my part of town, it rhymes with berry. I have heard “burr-y”, but I would have pegged that as “foreign.” But Chicago has at least a couple of accents, see the pronunciation of “Chicago,” for instance. (Shih - CAW vs CAH - go.).

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> [@WhyNot](#):
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> It’s most often “burr-y” in Chicago. He wasn’t born and raised here, but he spent enough time here that his dialect is pretty Chicago. It’s perfectly normal to me, although I’m also familiar with “barry”. I just don’t use it. Burr-y 'em at their burr-ial.

“Barry”, as distinct from “berry”? 😕

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> [@pulykamell](#):
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> But Chicago has at least a couple of accents, see the pronunciation of “Chicago,” for instance. (Shih - CAW vs CAH - go.).

Is there such a beast as a caw-cah merger? Because I would pronounce both of those the exact same way.

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> [@pulykamell](#):
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> (Shih - CAW vs CAH - go.).

Shih-CAW-go for me. But it’s a little fuzzy. Kind of between the two when I’m speaking at speed. (I also say Saw-sidge, for “sausage” not Sah-sidge. The SNL “Chicahgo” dialect sounds totally weird to me.)

> [@Ambivalid](#):
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> “Barry”, as distinct from “berry”? 😕

No, not really. By the time I typed it, I forgot if the OP said “berry” or “barry”, and it was about (Barry) Obama, so my brain picked the wrong one and I didn’t bother to edit. “Berry” and “Barry” sound the same to me. Sorry to add to the confusion.

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> [@Ambivalid](#):
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> “Barry”, as distinct from “berry”? 😕

And this is why nobody can use SAMPA or IPA in these threads.

IOW, it’s ‘cot’ as opposed to ‘caught’; ‘Mary’, not ‘merry’; and ‘pin’, as distinct from ‘pen’.

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Not sure why this is noteworthy.  
If I listen to someone speak for more than a couple minutes I can often pick out one or two words that I would consider to have been strangely pronounced. And by strangely I mean “I’m not sure I’ve ever heard that word pronounced quite like that”.  
That’s due to factors like growing up in a different place, in a different time, with a different class of education with/without the influence of foreign language(s), plus just individual quirkiness.

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> [@Punoqllads](#):
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> Is there such a beast as a caw-cah merger? Because I would pronounce both of those the exact same way.

Yes, it’s the cot-caught merger. Chicago differentiates between the two.

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> [@WhyNot](#):
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> Shih-CAW-go for me. But it’s a little fuzzy. Kind of between the two when I’m speaking at speed. (I also say Saw-sidge, for “sausage” not Sah-sidge. The SNL “Chicahgo” dialect sounds totally weird to me.)

Yeah, I grew up more with shih-CAH-go and sahsidge, although I will sometimes vacillate between the two. And also “aygs” for “eggs” (well, it’s probably more like “égs”–it’s not quite as long as a typical English “ay” sound.) although I’ve since (mostly) switched to “eggs.” “Burr-y” is kind of a new one for me, though, for Chicago area. Like I said, I’ve heard it, but always assumed it was like Indiana or father east or something.

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> [@Derleth](#):
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> And this is why nobody can use SAMPA or IPA in these threads.
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> IOW, it’s ‘cot’ as opposed to ‘caught’; ‘Mary’, not ‘merry’; and ‘pin’, as distinct from ‘pen’.

I still don’t see how “Barry” is pronounced any different than “Berry”.

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American English, as spoken in Hawaii, has a lot of local variation that puts it somewhat distinct from mainland English pronunciation. Is it possible that he’s bringing some of his Hawaiian dialect into his speech?

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> [@Ambivalid](#):
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> I still don’t see how “Barry” is pronounced any different than “Berry”.

Do you pronounce “marry” and “merry” the same?

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> [@Ambivalid](#):
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> I still don’t see how “Barry” is pronounced any different than “Berry”.

“Barry” uses a flat A sound, like in “cat”.

ETA: And my Nebraskan inlaws say “burr-y” for “bury”. “Syrup” is “surr-up”.

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