# Americans are too stupid to be ashamed **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [September 3, 2005, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/americans-are-too-stupid-to-be-ashamed/319894 "2005-09-03T15:33:41Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2005, 3:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/americans-are-too-stupid-to-be-ashamed/319894/21 "2005-09-05T03:51:41Z")
I’m so thankful there are people like **angrydonkey** to set all us lazy, uncaring, white, fat, suit-wearing dopers straight. We are here to fight ignorance, after all. ---
**Author:** ![Mister\_Rik](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mister_rik/32/491_2.png) [@Mister\_Rik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mister_Rik)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2005, 4:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/americans-are-too-stupid-to-be-ashamed/319894/22 "2005-09-05T04:15:39Z")
Ahem. ---
**Author:** ![hermann](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/b487fb/32.png) [@hermann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hermann)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2005, 4:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/americans-are-too-stupid-to-be-ashamed/319894/23 "2005-09-05T04:28:22Z")
> [@](#): > > [http://www.ohsep.louisiana.gov/plan...upplement1a.pdf](http://www.ohsep.louisiana.gov/plan...upplement1a.pdf) > Louisiana disaster plan, pg 13, para 5 , dated 01/00 > > \*\*‘The primary means of hurricane evacuation will be personal vehicles. School and municipal buses, \*\* government-owned vehicles and vehicles provided by volunteer agencies may be used to provide transportation for individuals who lack transportation and require assistance in evacuating’ Stick that in your pipe and smoke it. ---
**Author:** ![Larry\_Borgia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/larry_borgia/32/156_2.png) [@Larry\_Borgia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Borgia)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2005, 5:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/americans-are-too-stupid-to-be-ashamed/319894/24 "2005-09-05T05:31:54Z")
> [@](#): > > Dammit, when are the Mods going to stop letting the e-mail addres Ward.Churchill@Colorado.edu get new usernames? Now, that is funny. > [@](#): > > I go out for lunch and I see all you pathetic fat losers going on with your pathetic trite lives Maybe you should eat lunch somewhere else. ---
**Author:** ![Larry\_Borgia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/larry_borgia/32/156_2.png) [@Larry\_Borgia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Borgia)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2005, 5:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/americans-are-too-stupid-to-be-ashamed/319894/25 "2005-09-05T05:40:43Z")
Mods, I just pasted Sampiro’s line. I don’t know why it is now an actual email address. ---
**Author:** ![Clothahump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/51bf81/32.png) [@Clothahump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clothahump)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2005, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/americans-are-too-stupid-to-be-ashamed/319894/26 "2005-09-07T20:20:21Z")
> [@angrydonkey](#): > > I’ve been volunteering at at crisis call center trying help victims of the hurricane get some aid and find loved ones. > > These people didn’t choose not to heed the evacuation order. They are poor and do not cars. What kind of pathetic third world nation doesn’t make plans for evacuating the weakest segment of society in the event of a predictable natural disaster. Essentially, America privatized the evacuation of New Orleans. Sigh. I just love indignant outrage from people who don’t know the difference between their butt and a burnt biscuit on the topic they are outraged about. But, hey - why let a few facts get in the way of a chance to dump on America? First off, America did not “privatize the evacuation”. The city of New Orleans and the state of Louisiana did. The US government had nothing to do with it. Second off, whether they were poor or not, there was affordable public transportation available out of New Orleans. As soon as there was any indication that the hurricane might hit, they could have been on it. They chose not to. > [@angrydonkey](#): > > Now people are indignant at the looting and deep down see it as justification for not helping these people. That’s bullshit. Nobody is complaining about folks getting essentials of life. What they are complaining about is people getting plasma TVs and crackheads shooting at anything that moves. And guess what? We’re still trying to help them. > [@angrydonkey](#): > > All of you who think the administration is doing an adequate job, I’d like to ask you to answer phones all night and try to explain to illiterate (thanks to America’s pathetic education system) refugees how to use a computer so they can start looking for their lost family members. > > I go out for lunch and I see all you pathetic fat losers going on with your pathetic trite lives oblivious to the human suffering of thousands of your countrymen. This is much worse than 9-11 but because the victims aren’t bankers in business suits, or our “heros” in uniform you don’t. > > People dying of thirst in the street by the thousands is fine with you as long as they are black. Fuck you. Now that last sentence really reveals the total depth and width of your complete ignorance. Ignorance like that almost defies description. Ignorance like that could be used to drain the streets of New Orleans in 12 hours because it sucks so strongly. Could it have been handled better? You bet. It should have. It wasn’t. Deal with it. And guess what? We are dealing with it. We are doing the best that we can under the circumstances. That is why we go on with our most assuredly unpathetic and trite lives. We aren’t oblivious to the suffering, we’re helping to relieve it. Which is far, far more than you have done with your totally fucked-up Dump-On-America-At-All-Costs diatribe. So on behalf of the millions and millions of Americans just like me who go to work every day and who are now donating every spare penny that we have and every piece of clothing and anything else that we can to the refugees, I’d like to suggest that you stick your head back up your ass and keep it there. :wally ---
**Author:** ![js\_africanus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/87869e/32.png) [@js\_africanus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/js_africanus)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2005, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/americans-are-too-stupid-to-be-ashamed/319894/27 "2005-09-07T20:30:03Z")
I thought the OP was going to be more lighthearted, turns out I mistakenly read the user name as **happydonkey**. I thought the key problem wasn’t easily predicted: the levies broke. Was that expected? ---
**Author:** ![World\_Eater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2005, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/americans-are-too-stupid-to-be-ashamed/319894/28 "2005-09-07T20:32:30Z")
> [@FinnAgain](#): > > [Hmmmm…](http://www.greatbigstuff.com/prodpics/artbrush.jpg) Well played 'ol boy. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Try\_As\_I\_Might](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ea666f/32.png) [@Try\_As\_I\_Might](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Try_As_I_Might)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2005, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/americans-are-too-stupid-to-be-ashamed/319894/29 "2005-09-07T20:45:50Z")
> [@Harborwolf](#): > > Wait…nope. Never mind. You’re just a dumbass. Probably won’t even come back to the thread. Just thought you’d swing by the board, drop trou, and spray a whole bunch of assreek all over the place. > > Happy Labor day to you to bucko. Ding, ding, ding! \*\*Harborwolf \*\* called it. got to say though **FinnAgain** , nice pic. As for OP, you’re right. You are the only one who cares about this tragedy. :rolleyes: All those fat lazy people obviously did nothing to help. :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2005, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/americans-are-too-stupid-to-be-ashamed/319894/30 "2005-09-07T22:13:41Z")
> [@angrydonkey](#): > > People dying of thirst in the street by the thousands is fine with you as long as they are black. Now, that’s simply not true. I’d also be okay if there were thousands of hispanics dying in the street. ---
**Author:** ![Giraffe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/giraffe/32/129_2.png) [@Giraffe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Giraffe)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2005, 10:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/americans-are-too-stupid-to-be-ashamed/319894/31 "2005-09-07T22:26:28Z")
> [@Larry Borgia](#): > > Mods, I just pasted Sampiro’s line. I don’t know why it is now an actual email address. You have to uncheck the box that says “automatically parse links in text”. No biggie, though. ---
**Author:** ![Contrapuntal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e274bd/32.png) [@Contrapuntal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Contrapuntal)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2005, 11:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/americans-are-too-stupid-to-be-ashamed/319894/32 "2005-09-07T23:17:19Z")
Hey **Giraffe**. Since you’re doing a little housekeeping. [Cleanup on aisle three.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=6556406&postcount=69) ---
**Author:** ![Contrapuntal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e274bd/32.png) [@Contrapuntal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Contrapuntal)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2005, 11:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/americans-are-too-stupid-to-be-ashamed/319894/33 "2005-09-07T23:24:18Z")
> [@Contrapuntal](#): > > Hey **Giraffe**. Since you’re doing a little housekeeping. [Cleanup on aisle three.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=6556406&postcount=69) [But wait. There’s more.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=6556427&postcount=71) ---
**Author:** ![Anne\_Neville](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Anne\_Neville](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anne_Neville)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2005, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/americans-are-too-stupid-to-be-ashamed/319894/34 "2005-09-07T23:31:33Z")
> [@angrydonkey](#): > > I go out for lunch and I see all you pathetic fat losers going on with your pathetic trite lives oblivious to the human suffering of thousands of your countrymen. Could that be because the best thing that most of us can do is to donate money to relief efforts, and donating money online doesn’t take that long, and tends to happen in non-public places? [Somebody is certainly donating money to relief efforts](http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-me-philanthropy7sep07,0,1836630.story?coll=la-home-headlines). ---
**Author:** ![angrydonkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ebca7d/32.png) [@angrydonkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/angrydonkey)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2005, 4:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/americans-are-too-stupid-to-be-ashamed/319894/35 "2005-09-08T04:00:49Z")
Touched a nerve, did I? Any nation that lets its weakest die like animals in the street and then devotes all its energies to ducking responsibility and passing blame is clearly corrupt and stagnant. For me, Katrina is the end of any sense of duty I have to America. The word itself is just a cheap marketing tool used by charletans to sell a immoral war (one the US will never win, btw). When it is all over, you same idiots will ask “why aren’t the Iraqis grateful?” You should be ashamed, instead you are just stupid ---
**Author:** ![Mehitabel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8797f3/32.png) [@Mehitabel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mehitabel)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2005, 4:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/americans-are-too-stupid-to-be-ashamed/319894/36 "2005-09-08T04:06:44Z")
Hee haw right back atcha. Did you absorb _any_ of the replies in this thread? ---
**Author:** ![RedFury](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ec9cab/32.png) [@RedFury](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RedFury)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2005, 5:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/americans-are-too-stupid-to-be-ashamed/319894/37 "2005-09-08T05:49:57Z")
If you’re not one of the people referenced in the OP, I don’t quite understand the the virulent responses. If you _are_, suck it up-- truth hurts. If you, OTOH, don’t belong to said broad brush, why not simply agree with the message and get your nation back? The truth of the matter is that America’s ugly yet very real underbelly of classism/racism has, quite literally, been coming to the surface in the grotesque shape of the myriad of dead bodies floating about in New Orlean’s tragically mismanaged catastrophe. Compassionate Conservatism – at its best when it doesn’t negatively affect _Compassionate Conservatives_. As I am sure you’re all aware, they’re mighty compassionate as long as their wallets and blood are not involved. After all, tax-cuts and illegitimate wars for resources and power, are but a small price to pay to maintain the status-quo – seeing as it has, been working so well…for them. Caveat emptor: so long as you’re white and/or wealthy and, by default, part of Privileged America. As has been proven in the past five years you can always Bushit away the fact-based community and their wimpy “leaders.” Good luck with that plan. **angrydonkey** , welcome to the SDMB. Trust you’ll stick around. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2005, 6:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/americans-are-too-stupid-to-be-ashamed/319894/38 "2005-09-08T06:00:51Z")
> [@RedFury](#): > > If you’re not one of the people referenced in the OP, I don’t quite understand the the virulent responses. If you _are_, suck it up-- truth hurts. If you, OTOH, don’t belong to said broad brush, why not simply agree with the message and get your nation back? Of course, keep in mind that all Spaniards are cowards. Oh, I’m not talking about _you_… ---
**Author:** ![fushj00mang](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/d26b3c/32.png) [@fushj00mang](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fushj00mang)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2005, 6:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/americans-are-too-stupid-to-be-ashamed/319894/39 "2005-09-08T06:02:55Z")
> [@angrydonkey](#): > > Touched a nerve, did I? Any nation that lets its weakest die like animals in the street and then devotes all its energies to ducking responsibility and passing blame is clearly corrupt and stagnant. > > For me, Katrina is the end of any sense of duty I have to America. The word itself is just a cheap marketing tool used by charletans to sell a immoral war (one the US will never win, btw). When it is all over, you same idiots will ask “why aren’t the Iraqis grateful?” > > You should be ashamed, instead you are just stupid Well angrydonkey, gimmie a mailing address for you. I’ll have a one way ticket to say, Russia or Germany or France for you. You can be dutiful over there. Oh, and FYI (from the guy who spent 15 months in Iraq,) for the most part the Iraqi’s ARE grateful to us. Ever been there, or are you still using the big brush? ---
**Author:** ![RedFury](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ec9cab/32.png) [@RedFury](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RedFury)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2005, 6:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/americans-are-too-stupid-to-be-ashamed/319894/40 "2005-09-08T06:16:38Z")
> [@Miller](#): > > Of course, keep in mind that all Spaniards are cowards. > > Oh, I’m not talking about _you_… No doubt a high percentage of us are, but there’s also the fact that a majority of us had the balls/ovaries to get rid our own Bush’s substitute fellator-in-chief – just in case Blair’s throat needed a break. Maybe, just maybe, as high and mighty as so many of you are and as unbecoming as us poor Spaniards are by comparison, there’s a lesson to be learned there somewhere. Just sayin’ that’s all. ~Red. Courageous enough to cast my ballot for the PSOE. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/americans-are-too-stupid-to-be-ashamed/319894.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/americans-are-too-stupid-to-be-ashamed/319894.md?page=3)