# Americans suck at math

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/americans-suck-at-math/155410>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [February 16, 2003, 7:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/americans-suck-at-math/155410 "2003-02-16T07:03:45Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Ogre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ecb155/32.png) [@Ogre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ogre)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2003, 8:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/americans-suck-at-math/155410/41 "2003-02-16T08:40:33Z")

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That was funny. Can we do it again?

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**Author:** ![leander](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/bcef8e/32.png) [@leander](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/leander)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2003, 8:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/americans-suck-at-math/155410/42 "2003-02-16T08:41:56Z")

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Ah, the truth comes out, **Space Cadet** – someone has a major inferiority complex. Sorry to hear it.

But glad to know that most Canadians aren’t like you.

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**Author:** ![Q.E.D](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/51bf81/32.png) [@Q.E.D](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Q.E.D)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2003, 8:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/americans-suck-at-math/155410/43 "2003-02-16T08:42:08Z")

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What debate? We’ve more than established that every one of your points was invalid. Get your head out of your ass, and we’ll have a debate.

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**Author:** ![Neurotik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/91b2a8/32.png) [@Neurotik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Neurotik)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2003, 8:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/americans-suck-at-math/155410/44 "2003-02-16T08:44:05Z")

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No, you don’t understand. It’s only a debate if he is able to rile up the “Yankees” and get away with arguing incorrect information.

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**Author:** ![MachineHead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/258eb7/32.png) [@MachineHead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MachineHead)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2003, 8:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/americans-suck-at-math/155410/45 "2003-02-16T08:45:56Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Space Cadet \*  
> \*\*Ok, you know, I came here hoping for a serious dicussion of American energy interests, and the consequences of these interests, but it seems you Yanks aren’t in the mood. I’ll try pokin’ it up your ass again later - hopefully at some point you’ll realize you can’t be on top for ever - and maybe, just maybe, you’ll actually be willing to engage in an actual debate.  
> Lates, bro’s & sis’. \*\*

hahahahahahaa

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**Author:** ![Ogre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ecb155/32.png) [@Ogre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ogre)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2003, 8:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/americans-suck-at-math/155410/46 "2003-02-16T08:46:07Z")

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Oh wait. You guys thought that was a debate?

Hell, that was _target practice_.

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**Author:** ![erislover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/71e660/32.png) [@erislover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/erislover)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2003, 8:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/americans-suck-at-math/155410/47 "2003-02-16T08:48:46Z")

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For the humor impaired, is this thread serious or not?

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**Author:** ![Q.E.D](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/51bf81/32.png) [@Q.E.D](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Q.E.D)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2003, 8:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/americans-suck-at-math/155410/48 "2003-02-16T08:48:48Z")

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Silly me. I thought one needed facts to have a proper debate. What was I thinking?

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**Author:** ![Ogre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ecb155/32.png) [@Ogre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ogre)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2003, 8:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/americans-suck-at-math/155410/49 "2003-02-16T08:50:36Z")

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> \*Originally posted by erislover \*  
> \*\*For the humor impaired, is this thread serious or not? \*\*

Nah. Space Cadet’s an obvious troll. We were just kicking him around a little.

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**Author:** ![Q.E.D](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/51bf81/32.png) [@Q.E.D](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Q.E.D)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2003, 8:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/americans-suck-at-math/155410/50 "2003-02-16T08:50:41Z")

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Define “serious”, **erislover**? If you mean does the OP mean the BS he’s spouting, then yes.

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**Author:** ![chula](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a4c791/32.png) [@chula](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chula)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2003, 8:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/americans-suck-at-math/155410/51 "2003-02-16T08:53:21Z")

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Yeah, Canada cuts off the energy, and we cut off the $$. Who’s going to be hurting?

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**Author:** ![Smeghead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f1d935/32.png) [@Smeghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smeghead)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2003, 8:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/americans-suck-at-math/155410/52 "2003-02-16T08:55:51Z")

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[Um, yeah.](http://www.msties.com/episodes/910.htm#2)

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**Author:** ![pervertatoid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/f07891/32.png) [@pervertatoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pervertatoid)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2003, 8:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/americans-suck-at-math/155410/53 "2003-02-16T08:57:39Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Neurotik \*  
> \*\*To say that Canada is the largest single source of oil in the world is pushing the boundaries of honesty. \*\*

Especially with the use of the word “source”, which in most cases implies a destination. “The world’s largest source” implies that its destination is “the world”, which suggests that the oil is being produced. So, though you didn’t actually say that it was _produced_, it’s pretty irrelevent to “the world’s largest sources” if it’s not.

Thus, I thank you for Emmanuelle Chriqui. But one hottie that was produced by Canada does not equal 25% of America’s total energy needs.

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**Author:** ![Cerowyn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/82dd89/32.png) [@Cerowyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cerowyn)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2003, 10:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/americans-suck-at-math/155410/54 "2003-02-16T10:46:03Z")

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Folks, do us all a favour and don’t be as fucking stupid as **Space Cadet** with the intolerance, okay? **chula** et. al., you’re demonstrating that you’re just as prejudiced as SD, rather than exhibiting any shred of wit. And I’m sure that’s not what you intend.

At the risk of introducing [some facts](http://www.state.gov/r/pa/ei/bgn/2089.htm):[ul][_]U.S. / Canada energy trade is $38 billion a year[_]Canada is the U.S.'s largest oil supplier[_]Canada is the world’s fifth largest energy producer[_]Canada provides about 16% of U.S. oil importsCanada provides about 14% of U.S. natural gas imports[/ul](I trust that the U.S State Department is a believable source for this sort of information.)

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**Author:** ![chula](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a4c791/32.png) [@chula](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chula)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2003, 10:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/americans-suck-at-math/155410/55 "2003-02-16T10:57:33Z")

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Huh? I’m prejudiced against idiots. I don’t see how your stats (which have already been posted!) make SD look like any less of an idiot.

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**Author:** ![december](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/838e76/32.png) [@december](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/december)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2003, 11:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/americans-suck-at-math/155410/56 "2003-02-16T11:04:56Z")

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There are three kinds of American: Those who suck at math and those who are good at math. 🙂

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**Author:** ![lokij](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/5e9695/32.png) [@lokij](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lokij)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2003, 11:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/americans-suck-at-math/155410/57 "2003-02-16T11:06:55Z")

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It strikes me that if Space Cadet’s worldview was in fact, reality…

Canada is the largest global source of oil,

Canada is the largest supplier of energy to the US,

Canada, recognising that the US is bent on world conquest decides to turn off the spigot,

What exactly prevents the bloodthirsty, profit driven, imperial war machine that is the US from just rolling north a few degrees and taking what we want? The mighty Canadian military?

heh heh… Fun stuff.

Fuckwit.

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**Author:** ![Cerowyn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/82dd89/32.png) [@Cerowyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cerowyn)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2003, 11:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/americans-suck-at-math/155410/58 "2003-02-16T11:08:28Z")

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> \*Originally posted by chula \*  
> \*\*Huh? I’m prejudiced against idiots. I don’t see how your stats (which have already been posted!) make SD look like any less of an idiot. \*\*

Sorry, it wasn’t my intention to support SD’s position – I was trying to _correct_ his information. The post was actually written many hours ago; I should have read the new posts since before submitting.

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**Author:** ![ScoobyTX](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ec9cab/32.png) [@ScoobyTX](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ScoobyTX)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2003, 11:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/americans-suck-at-math/155410/59 "2003-02-16T11:09:31Z")

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So, you’re saying that if we’re going to fight a war for oil, we should invade Canada instead of Iraq.

Let me call the Pentagon to let them know we don’t need to hurry this whole war with Iraq thing so that soldiers can fight in NBC gear without having 10% of the soldiers suffering heat stroke every 15 minutes. We can wait 'til summer (to avoid frostbite dangers) and invade Canada. I’m pretty sure they don’t have any chemical or biological weapons. The only danger is that they will unleash a horde of Celine Dion clones to demoralize the troops.

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> _Originally posted by Michael Ellis_  
> :rolleyes: x 6.02 x 10[sup]23[/sup]

a mole of :rolleyes:?

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**Author:** ![Brutus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@Brutus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Brutus)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2003, 11:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/americans-suck-at-math/155410/60 "2003-02-16T11:17:45Z")

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> \*Originally posted by lokij \*  
> **…What exactly prevents the bloodthirsty, profit driven, imperial war machine that is the US from just rolling north a few degrees and taking what we want? The mighty Canadian military?..**

While calls of bloodthirsty imperialism are sweet music to my ears, I have a feeling that US occupation forces would fuck up _Hockey Night in Canada_. That alone would drive Michigan and the other True Hockey Fan States to secede. Chaos ensues.

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