# Americans, who would you be happy to vote for?

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**Category:** Great Debates\
**Created:** [November 1, 2005, 6:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/americans-who-would-you-be-happy-to-vote-for/328874 "2005-11-01T06:45:47Z")\
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**Post date:** [November 3, 2005, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/americans-who-would-you-be-happy-to-vote-for/328874/41 "2005-11-03T16:15:39Z")

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Congressman Santos.

What do you mean, it is just a TV show? 😉

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**Post date:** [November 3, 2005, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/americans-who-would-you-be-happy-to-vote-for/328874/42 "2005-11-03T16:31:08Z")

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> [@John Mace](#):
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> While I understand where your coming from, how much are you willing to compromise your political beliefs to get a minority in the WH? If you’re liberal, would you vote for **Condi**? If you’re conservative would you vote for, say, **Obama**?

I’d love to see a minority in the WH, but I wouldn’t vote for Hillary or Rice. If it was between the two of them, I’d lean slightly toward Rice but would more likely not vote.

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**Post date:** [November 3, 2005, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/americans-who-would-you-be-happy-to-vote-for/328874/43 "2005-11-03T16:34:59Z")

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> [@Anaamika](#):
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> I’ll second \*\*Zoe \*\* - I am also tired of old white men.
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> I’m E. Indian, albeit American, and female. I haven’t felt old white men have represented my interests for years now. I don’t think this is racist, just that they’ve never had the experience of living in a country where you’re a stranger, where everyone else is a different color and different religion. I just want someone who’s been there, and who’s experienced what I’ve experienced. I’d take a black man, or even better, a black woman - I seriously doubt that an Asian will get elected any time soon.
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> Speaking of which - how do you think that feels to us? I cannot see a forseeable future where an Asian gets elected to high office. Not for a long time. This country \*is \* racist, unfortunately, and we are only reacting the best we can.

In this country you will not, unless the Constitution is changed, ever be able to elect someone who is from another country. Regardless, you do not think it is possible for a white man to come to this country and feel different? You don’t think it is possible for a white man to represent your views?

If my sole litmus test on who I vote for was better treatment of minorities I would vote for Bill Clinton before I voted for say Al Sharpton or Jesse Jackson. They are too divisive. I think they would harm the minority communities more than they helped.

You can’t justify racism with racism. Under your criteria, I don’t think you can complain if a minority never gets elected. Since you think it’s ok to base your vote on the skin color of the candidate. A minority will never be a majority. If you do not think its racist for you to pick your candidate based on skin color, or gender, then it’s not for anyone else. I think it is racist/sexist. I have the definitions to back me up.

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**Post date:** [November 3, 2005, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/americans-who-would-you-be-happy-to-vote-for/328874/44 "2005-11-03T17:52:27Z")

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> [@Marley23](#):
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> For President, that is. Confining the answers to political figures.
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> I’m sorry to end a thread title with a preposition. 😉 Anyway, people seem to complain every four years that both nominees are lame, I can’t believe we have to choose between two losers that were this bad when there are so many better people, etc. So: _who’s out there who you actually WANT to have the chance to vote for?_
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> This is technically a poll, but I figure there is plenty of room for political debate. For example, I think a lot of people may mention John McCain, so I’ll say in advance that I’d never vote for the guy.

General Wesley Clark with James Lee Witt on his ticket.

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**Post date:** [November 4, 2005, 4:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/americans-who-would-you-be-happy-to-vote-for/328874/45 "2005-11-04T04:16:24Z")

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> [@Agent Foxtrot](#):
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> Hillary Clinton.
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> Adam

I could see voting for Clinton, but no way in hell would I vote for Adam. Look at his record! He divorced his first wife because she was an outspoken feminist, he blames his troubles on women, and you don’t want to know what his sons have done.

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**Post date:** [November 4, 2005, 4:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/americans-who-would-you-be-happy-to-vote-for/328874/46 "2005-11-04T04:29:10Z")

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Ron Paul.  
Tom Coburn.  
Rudy G.  
Bob Casey.  
Jack Kemp.  
McCain, I think.  
Lieberman, maybe.  
Harold Ford in a few years.

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**Post date:** [November 5, 2005, 4:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/americans-who-would-you-be-happy-to-vote-for/328874/47 "2005-11-05T04:47:40Z")

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> [@jsgoddess](#):
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> I’d love to see a minority in the WH, but I wouldn’t vote for Hillary or Rice. If it was between the two of them, I’d lean slightly toward Rice but would more likely not vote.

I’ve already said I’m swimming to Spain if those two are the match-up.

I would vote for…

Howard Dean  
Barack Obama  
Jerry Brown (I like the way he actually seems to be thinking when he speaks, not reciting a script)  
Ralph Nader (oh, wait, I did once)  
John Kerry (oh, wait, I did once)  
Chris Walken (why… the hell not?)  
Matt Santos (from the West Wing)  
Mac Allen (from Commader in Chief)  
No eligible Republicans on the list? Well, show me a conservationist Republican, & that can change. I do like Arnie from California, though… oh, wait, that’s Arnie Vinick, from the West Wing again.

Party politics breeds moral cowardice.

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**Post date:** [November 5, 2005, 4:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/americans-who-would-you-be-happy-to-vote-for/328874/48 "2005-11-05T04:58:00Z")

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Howard Dean.

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**Post date:** [November 5, 2005, 5:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/americans-who-would-you-be-happy-to-vote-for/328874/49 "2005-11-05T05:41:57Z")

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I kinda liked my first impressions of **Bob Graham** from the last Dem primaries, though I don’t know enough about him to be sure, and IIRC he was the first guy to drop out of the running.

I don’t know what to think about Colin Powell after this Iraq debacle, but up to 2003 I’d have voted for him in a heartbeat.

I know it’s not an elected position, but I’d love to see Richard Clarke as National Security Adviser.

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**Post date:** [November 5, 2005, 6:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/americans-who-would-you-be-happy-to-vote-for/328874/50 "2005-11-05T06:03:18Z")

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> [@Gadarene](#):
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> Russ Feingold rocks.

Man, I thought I’d be the first one here with the Feingold-love. He’s the greatest. I know people who would take a year off of work/school to campaign for him.

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**Post date:** [November 5, 2005, 9:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/americans-who-would-you-be-happy-to-vote-for/328874/51 "2005-11-05T09:01:55Z")

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> [@Zoe](#):
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> I would consider John Kerry if his running mate is not a white male. I’m tired of voting for two white men.

Are you being serious? This is an incredibly racist statement.

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