# America's "Culture Wars" coming to an end (RW loses) **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [August 17, 2009, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/americas-culture-wars-coming-to-an-end-rw-loses/506736 "2009-08-17T16:23:29Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 10\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![athelas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5e9695/32.png) [@athelas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/athelas)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2009, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/americas-culture-wars-coming-to-an-end-rw-loses/506736/41 "2009-08-18T20:56:37Z")
> [@woodstockbirdybird](#): > > Wait - am I reading this correctly? Are you saying there are seriously people who are arguing not only that the “bulk of black America” is a failure, but also that, if it is, it would be because blacks are naturally inferior? My apologies if I’m misinterpreting; this just seems like a baffling claim. We’ve gone over this in a few threads, if you do a GD search. ---
**Author:** ![Beware\_of\_Doug](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/278dde/32.png) [@Beware\_of\_Doug](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beware_of_Doug)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2009, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/americas-culture-wars-coming-to-an-end-rw-loses/506736/42 "2009-08-18T21:06:38Z")
> [@BrainGlutton](#): > > [That’s](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trivium_(education)) still taught?! Yes. We just don’t call it that on the CVs. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2009, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/americas-culture-wars-coming-to-an-end-rw-loses/506736/43 "2009-08-18T21:10:06Z")
> [@Beware\_of\_Doug](#): > > Yes. We just don’t call it that on the CVs. 😉 What do you call it instead of “rhetoric”? ---
**Author:** ![Hyperelastic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Hyperelastic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hyperelastic)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2009, 9:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/americas-culture-wars-coming-to-an-end-rw-loses/506736/44 "2009-08-18T21:55:36Z")
> [@BrainGlutton](#): > > Not because of any swing-of-the-pendulum, but because of lasting generational/demographic changes. Isn’t it always thus? It’ll be touted as a moral and intellectual victory, of course, but few minds were changed. The government could no longer tolerate the people and therefore eventually had to replace them. ---
**Author:** ![woodstockbirdybird](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/woodstockbirdybird/32/7905_2.png) [@woodstockbirdybird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/woodstockbirdybird)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2009, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/americas-culture-wars-coming-to-an-end-rw-loses/506736/45 "2009-08-18T22:46:40Z")
> [@athelas](#): > > We’ve gone over this in a few threads, if you do a GD search. Cool. I assume I’ll find them if I put “phrenology” in the search terms. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2009, 11:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/americas-culture-wars-coming-to-an-end-rw-loses/506736/46 "2009-08-18T23:25:09Z")
> [@Hyperelastic](#): > > The government could no longer tolerate the people and therefore eventually had to replace them. Whoosh, right? ---
**Author:** ![Beware\_of\_Doug](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/278dde/32.png) [@Beware\_of\_Doug](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beware_of_Doug)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2009, 12:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/americas-culture-wars-coming-to-an-end-rw-loses/506736/47 "2009-08-19T00:03:22Z")
> [@BrainGlutton](#): > > What do you call it instead of “rhetoric”? OK, I fibbed. My program is actually called [Rhetoric, Composition, and Professional Communication.](http://engl.iastate.edu/programs/rhetoric/ma/) In speaking to civilians, I usually call it Pro Comm or Tech Comm. ---
**Author:** ![Justin\_Bailey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/justin_bailey/32/8792_2.png) [@Justin\_Bailey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Bailey)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2009, 12:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/americas-culture-wars-coming-to-an-end-rw-loses/506736/48 "2009-08-19T00:06:56Z")
> [@Beware\_of\_Doug](#): > > OK, I fibbed. My program is actually called [Rhetoric, Composition, and Professional Communication.](http://engl.iastate.edu/programs/rhetoric/ma/) In speaking to civilians, I usually call it Pro Comm or _ **Tech Comm** _. Come with me if you want to live… ---
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2009, 12:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/americas-culture-wars-coming-to-an-end-rw-loses/506736/49 "2009-08-19T00:32:47Z")
> [@BrainGlutton](#): > > [shrug] If you’ve got a source that says different, bring it. [Okay,](http://www.city-journal.org/html/13_4_were_not_losing.html) but [I don’t](http://search.barnesandnoble.com/booksearch/isbnInquiry.asp?userid=18WCB5K4D1&isbn=0786868961&itm=1) imagine you’ll be convinced. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2009, 5:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/americas-culture-wars-coming-to-an-end-rw-loses/506736/50 "2009-08-19T05:47:43Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > [Okay,](http://www.city-journal.org/html/13_4_were_not_losing.html) but [I don’t](http://search.barnesandnoble.com/booksearch/isbnInquiry.asp?userid=18WCB5K4D1&isbn=0786868961&itm=1) imagine you’ll be convinced. Certainly I won’t be, by anything that begins with something as Bizarro-World as, “The Left’s near monopoly over the institutions of opinion and information . . .” :rolleyes: As for the other, it suggests no sociopolitical trends of any kind among the subject youth population. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/americas-culture-wars-coming-to-an-end-rw-loses/506736.md?page=2)