# Amish hate crimes trial

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amish-hate-crimes-trial/632880>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [August 28, 2012, 12:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amish-hate-crimes-trial/632880 "2012-08-28T00:57:08Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 5\
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**Author:** ![friedo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/8edcca/32.png) [@friedo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/friedo)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2014, 4:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amish-hate-crimes-trial/632880/41 "2014-08-29T04:33:26Z")

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> [@Isilder](#):
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> I dont think this case warrants a jury trial. can’t they just leave it at state law ?? But asking a prosecutor to be “real world” and practical… that would be new.

All criminal cases are jury trials, unless the defendant waives that right.

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**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2014, 4:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amish-hate-crimes-trial/632880/42 "2014-08-29T04:36:33Z")

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> [@Floater](#):
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> But I can see buttons in Mullet’s shirt and I thought that was a no-no among the amish.

Zippers. It’s zippers that are generally frowned upon, not buttons.

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**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2014, 11:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amish-hate-crimes-trial/632880/43 "2014-08-29T11:05:39Z")

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> [@Nava](#):
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> Zippers. It’s zippers that are generally frowned upon, not buttons.

Have they taken a stand on Velcro yet?

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**Author:** ![kopek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kopek/32/337_2.png) [@kopek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kopek)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2014, 3:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amish-hate-crimes-trial/632880/44 "2014-08-29T15:27:38Z")

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I’ve been in this thread before but -------

> [@friedo](#):
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> Clop clop clop _bang_ clop clop clop _bang_ clop clop clop _bang_.
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> Amish drive-by.

THY MOTHER WEARETH ENGLISH FOOTWEAR!!!

Amish road-rage

> [@Shagnasty](#):
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> He replied “Sure! We ship anywhere and this is just a sample of what we have. Our website should be up soon so just shop from there.”

Thats what us FOYs (Friends of Yoder) are for. That and relatives who weren’t baptized but stayed near the family.

> [@kayaker](#):
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> Have they taken a stand on Velcro yet?

Not totally - it’s a sticky subject right now. 😃

And yes – I do tell my Amish friends jokes like this. :smack:

On the serious side - I’ve stayed away from a lot of this thread because some friends are/may end up on the prosecutions side. It is tough on a community that prides itself on being separate from the world being dragged into it. It was the same way after the school shooting. Most of the Amish I know over Ohio felt the “hate crimes” thing was wrong. In a manner of speaking, no matter how misguided, the defendants were (in a sense) acting out of love trying to correct what they saw as unholy behavior. Cult - yes, wrong - yes, hate crime - no.

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**Author:** ![Malthus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/85f322/32.png) [@Malthus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malthus)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2014, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amish-hate-crimes-trial/632880/45 "2014-08-29T15:44:18Z")

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A guy named “Mullet” really has no business interfereing with other people’s hairstyles. 😉

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