Just how would one pass a law that’s not public knowledge? I mean, do the ammunition manufacturers know about this law or not? If they do know, then I’d assume they wouldn’t like it, and they would tell the public about it. And if they don’t know, then they’ll just keep on making ammo the same way they always have. How could this make sense?
That’s just what the sheeple *would *say, man.
We rotate ammunition. When a new shipment of ammunition is purchased it’s issued for carrying. The older ammunition that’s been carried is then taken out of stock and used for training. So the ammunition that’s being shot at training is the oldest ammunition.
Obama passed the law himself and just didn’t tell the manufacturers. He has powers you know. That’s how we wound up with the FEMA concentration camps and UN helicopters hovering over my house.
I’m ok taking the word of the previous posters as true, but it’s been over a year since then. What new evidence has appeared in the 16 months since the previous post?
Oh. Thanks for checking in!
Soldiers and Marines in WWII were firing ammunition loaded in 1917. It worked.
For what it’s worth. When my father died in 1966 we cleaned out his apartment and found a1911A (not 1911 A1) .45 cal. Colt pistol and two boxes of ball ammunition marked 1944. I fired eight rounds off in 1968 and they worked fine.
The local Sheriff had some “Bonny and Clyde guns” in the early 1970s, a couple 1917 Springfield Rifles and a batch of 30-06 cartridges made in 1918. A bunch of the Deputies and some select civilians went out to the airport to see if they still worked. They did although a few rounds cooked off. There is nothing like standing out in the middle of nowhere waiting for 30 seconds to elapse before opening the breech and ejecting the cartridge.
To be totally fair to Trueblueliberty–who joined just to post that, how interesting–if there were a secret plan to have primer degrade that had been introduced at some time in the last two decades, it would not, in fact, affect ammunition from WWII or earlier.
As for the rumor itself, isn’t it convenient for ammo manufacturers to have buyers believe that their ammo must be replaced every two years? Yes, yes it is.
How could you pass a law like this in secret?
Is the NRA keeping it a secret too? Do the ammo manufacturers know? How about the members of congress who passed the law? Did they pass it without knowing what it was? Who enforces the law? What are the consequences of manufacturing ammo that doesn’t follow the law?
This rumor is exactly the same as the old “McDonalds uses worms in their hamburgers” rumors that went around when I was a kid. Hey, McDonalds is scummy and sleazy, you trust those guys? Just because they claim to have all beef doesn’t mean it’s true! Wake up! There’s a company that raises worms named “100% Beef company”, that’s how they can say “made with ‘100% Beef’” and get away with it.
If there is such a law, then show me the text of the law. Such a law does not exist. It is fiction, like the alternate ending to “Big”. Didn’t happen. Spread by liars. Prove me wrong or shut up.
It’s partially true, nowadays. You buy ammo, and then must buy more in two years, because over those entire two years, you’ve been checking shelves to see if they got more in stock. :dubious:
These types of rumors are always suspect. The beef industry is a well oiled machine, and thus you can get it pretty cheap. Vermiculture is harder, and it takes thousands of worms to equal one cow. Do you think McDonald’s is tenting their fingers and choosing the “evil” option? No, they’re trying to be cheap. The same is true of rumors of Chinese restaurants serving cat or dog. In Asia, you can buy those meats, but they’re advertised as such because people seek them out and they cost more. American Chinese restaurants aren’t going to be substituting a more expensive meat.
Ammo manufacturers are like any other business, and aren’t going to spend millions on R&D and a coverup.
Obviously you are part of the cover-up.
Well, that part at least might be plausible, given how many members of congress we have who brag about not reading bills.
Not pistol but rather rifle primers: British .303 ammo left over from WW1 was stored and the army ordered that all new small arms should be chambered for that cartridge. So it was throughout WW2 and both rifle and ammo were continued to be stocked and used (in places like India and Australia) long after 1945.
FWIW, I have a box of Remington .308 Win that I bought in 2009. I fired a couple of sighting shots this past weekend - worked flawlessly.
Interesting. I happened to go shooting this past weekend with my dad, and we were using some pistol ammo that was a couple of years old (bought in 2010…I know this because they were still in the bag my dad bought it in with the receipts still also in the bag).
I can say categorically that the legend is true! Every single bullet failed catastrophically. You would pull the trigger and there was this loud bang, the gun would jump in your hand and…here’s the worst part…the target would get a big hole in it! Well, except when my dad was shooting. In that case, no idea where the bullets went.
At any rate, every single bullet failed in exactly this same way. Pull the trigger, loud bang, hole in target (again, when I was shooting).
Damn Obama! And damn the secret legislature that did this! Now we need to go out and buy ammo every week, because you know this is going to be a slippery slope! First they get the shelf life to be 2 years. Then one year. Then a month. Next thing you know, the bullets will expire before they even in the box! :smack:
Sounds like you have defective targets too.
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I think it is an old rumor that won’t die. Right after the election, two of my gun owning friends were frantic, and I don’t use the word frantic lightly, about a rumor that Obama was going to outlaw ammo because he couldn’t get to the guns. They were stocking up extra ammo. My guess is that old rumor mutated into this rumor.
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Your two friends aren’t the only ones stocking up. The idiots are stocking up so much that trying to get simple .22 short, long or long rifle is next to impossible. I was able to purchase two hundred rounds of short from Wally World a few weeks ago and about a month ago I got 500 rounds of long rifle, standard velocity from Dicks. I can’t seen to find any high velocity anywhere except a few small gun shops, but they’re charging double for the limited supply they have. And this shortage has been going on for almost two years. I called CCI and they told me they’re making TWO MILLION .22 ROUNDS A DAY and can’t keep up with demand.
Great to know rumors are the reason I can’t take my boys out target shooting. Hell, there are several hundred Taliban soda cans hanging around in our garbage that need to be holed. ![]()
Phase 1: Not selling as much ammunition as you’d like. Start rumors of a secret government plot to confiscate ammunition. Sell huge amounts of ammunition to people buying “just in case”.
Phase 2: People now have huge stockpiles of ammunition accumulated from Phase 1. Need to convince them to use up all that ammunition so they’ll buy more. Start rumors of a secret government plot that makes ammunition “go bad”. People shoot all their stored ammunition “just in case”.
Phase 3: Still not selling ammunition to people that don’t own guns. Start rumors of secret government plot to cover up ammunition-based weight loss plan? Talk to marketing.
It’s absolutely true that, of ammunition sold since the start of 2012, absolutely none of it has lasted more than two years. And yet, it’s quite common for ammo from earlier years to last that long. So clearly, that’s when the conspiracy started.
FWIW, I shot about 300 rounds of .38 special, .357 magnum, 9mm, & .45ACP last weekend and the ammo was fine. It was bought in 2008.
Also, none of the ammo I bought in 2012 has lasted two years. That stuff must be crap.