Posing on the SDMB is a lack of exercising religion, unless you worship the SDMB or Cecil or something.
Indeed it is and that is my point.
What is your point?
As an atheist, I live in the same world as the people who like to pretend God exists. My stake in the world is higher in fact, because I’m aware there isn’t one available after this to make up for the misery/injustice that people accrue during life. So my problems with her are everyone’s problems, she’s likely to damage the actual world we all live in.
Aside from the general issue that a highly religious person is going to likely use the completely fictional myths she believes in to weigh her decisions, rather than actually using her rational judgement…
I have a young daughter. She is more likely to not have access to abortion and/or birth control. She’s more likely to have fewer rights in general, owing to the desire to strip women of their general equality. She’s more likely to face a world where the disdain for women’s rights is acceptable and common to express. If she turns out LGBT, having fanatical Catholic on the court is horrifying.
Her being a seething conservative ideologue is also an issue, of course. Seeing as American conservatives are wrong on nearly every issue they cling to. With her on the bench, I’m more likely to be shot, to live in a society with massive wealth disparities, to live in a world with out-of-control global warming, that continues our broken medical system, with zero consequences for crooked politicians (at least Republican ones). Pretty much she’s terrible, and aside from the hundreds of thousands of Americans Trump’s weakness and petulance killed, is the worst thing he did.
At least, Justice “Beer! Woooooo!” is just an incompetent asshole. ACB thinks that magic won’t let anything bad happen as long as we grovel hard enough to God.
Hey, don’t hold back. Tell us how you really feel…
Those of us who are not atheists do not pretend that God exists, we believe that God exists. There is a huge difference, and your use of the word “pretend” comes across as insulting (because it quite clearly rejects any acknowledgement that we actually believe what we say we believe – you’re basically calling us liars).
Which I’m sure wasn’t your intention.
I feel like a lot of you are just listing ways that conservative Republican justices are bad because of your political preferences–which is fine, but none of it strikes me as being particularly distinct to Justice Barrett.
Do you believe that Catholics should not be appointed to the Supreme Court? How about the circuit courts? District courts?
I don’t think that self-delusion is a lie. We all tell ourselves happy stories that make the world easier to take. But I see what you’re saying. How about change, “pretend” to “believe with no evidence.”
Frankly, I agree with whomever said, it’s not an atheists/religious divide as much as a Christian/everyone else divide.
In general, Judaism has little issue with abortion, doesn’t have the afterlife as a strong influence (in that we focus on here and now) and most Jews are highly invested in separation of church and state.
While the lines aren’t absolute, as much as we have to talk about generalizations, I think the Christian v Non- Christian is the more relevant discussion.
Do you believe that all Catholics are fanatical?
I believe this to be factually wrong. There are a number of Christian denominations that are not opposed to the legalization of abortion.
You are mistaken to assume that Christianity is monolithic on this issue.
I’d say the issue is that she’s a fanatic. For instance, Judge Scalia was a Catholic, but he wasn’t part of an especially delusional group like the, “People of Praise” that ACB belongs to.
And being a fanatic is a lever that makes her otherwise pedestrian conservative beliefs more dangerous. Like I say, Justice Kavanaugh is just an incompetent asshole. ACB is a true believer. And true believers don’t weigh issues critically, in my experience.
He was widely believed among Catholics to be an Opus Dei member. Opus Dei is, in my opinion, much more extreme than People of Praise, which is basically a charismatic organization.
And we’re back to “delusional,” are we?
I haven’t seen any evidence that ACB is any different than other conservative judges in her legal career to this point. “Fanatic” is also a value judgment, I haven’t seen any real evidence she’s what I would call a fanatic, she’s an ideological conservative Christian.
I don’t think fanatics should be.
That seems to be ducking the question.
Sigh, I was speaking in generalizations, as I said. Not all Jews have the same opinion either.
However, as the dominant culture (to the point that the weekly, academic, and federal calendars are aligned to support Christianity), it’s needs are the easiest met and needs outside of that generally need to be “accommodated”.
That’s the point- not that it’s a monolith, but they have the biggest voices and the assumption of being accommodated.
Fair enough. I’m basing my assessment on the fanatic thing on her membership in the People of Praise. It seems to me to be a lot more culty than standard Catholic faith. This is the article I was thinking of:
The issue isn’t if she’s fanatical per se. The issue is if she believes that her Christianity has a place in secular law. If any of her decisions are based on religious leanings or preferences, that’s a problem. I don’t care how religious you are, as long as you can keep religious justifications or religious prioritization out of your decision making.