# An ammoral question:

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-ammoral-question/199863>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [September 6, 2003, 1:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-ammoral-question/199863 "2003-09-06T01:58:05Z")\
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**Author:** ![Master\_Wang-Ka](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/master_wang-ka/32/3325_2.png) [@Master\_Wang-Ka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Master_Wang-Ka)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2003, 10:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-ammoral-question/199863/21 "2003-09-06T22:23:11Z")

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> the, err, less happy and publicized bits of Mother Theresa’s career.

Well, that’s got my curiosity up. What, was she a serial killer or did she run a bordello, before taking up the nun’s habit?

Stroppy old bat? That’s it? Jeez, how could she not be? Well-behaved women seldom make history.

More than once, I’ve thought that if I was going to go back, I’d bring back some dodo eggs, and perhaps some moa, as well. I mean, talk about some SERIOUS poultry dinners! But, then, we thought that about Emu Ranching, too, and look how that turned out…

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**Author:** ![thatDDperson](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/9de0a6/32.png) [@thatDDperson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thatDDperson)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2003, 10:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-ammoral-question/199863/22 "2003-09-06T22:31:49Z")

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MT wanted all the poor she cared for to die with dignity, and without pain medication or proper care.

So, no, she didn’t provide even palliative care for all those cancer patients she took care of in the slums.

Had she provided the same care in the US, she would have been jailed for the misapplication of the funds sent to aid hel mission, and for the level of non-care she provided. Gruel and a mat on the floor were a bit too little considering she had funding, and could have gotten even more help from the government it India, had she not been convinced that the suffering would save the souls of her patients.

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**Author:** ![Capcha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/82dd89/32.png) [@Capcha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Capcha)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2003, 10:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-ammoral-question/199863/23 "2003-09-06T22:39:18Z")

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Screw killing of mother T.

i’d find out the exact reason my mother had a miscarriage with her first born, and if possible to prevent, go back in time and intervene so the first pregnancy goes well.

If it would work, i’d dissapear off existance…since my parents only want 3kids.  
or

Go back and see the great dinosaurs for myself, see how the great pharaos in Egypt ruled, find the great Atlantis…

or  
Go back into the previous 10minutes where i was enjoying a nice choco/vanila icecream from Hagen Daaz…

i want haaaaaaagen Daaaaaaaz…

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**Author:** ![Not\_In\_Anger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/3ab097/32.png) [@Not\_In\_Anger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Not_In_Anger)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2003, 10:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-ammoral-question/199863/24 "2003-09-06T22:42:47Z")

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She asked very rude questions of girls who wanted simple abortions. That was uncalled for.

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**Author:** ![Lord\_Ashtar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ea924/32.png) [@Lord\_Ashtar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Ashtar)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2003, 11:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-ammoral-question/199863/25 "2003-09-06T23:57:13Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Ferg \*  
> \*\*If I could travel through time I’d go back to the 1920s and see what all the fuss is about. \*\*

When come back, bring death rays.

And pie.

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**Author:** ![imthjckaz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/imthjckaz/32/3223_2.png) [@imthjckaz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/imthjckaz)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2003, 12:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-ammoral-question/199863/26 "2003-09-07T00:20:55Z")

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Thanks to **Lord Ashtar** , this thread has jumped the shark.

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**Author:** ![Not\_In\_Anger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/3ab097/32.png) [@Not\_In\_Anger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Not_In_Anger)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2003, 1:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-ammoral-question/199863/27 "2003-09-07T01:05:22Z")

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> \*Originally posted by imthjckaz \*  
> \*\*Thanks to **Lord Ashtar** , this thread has jumped the shark. \*\*

Yup.

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**Author:** ![Already\_in\_Use](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a9adbd/32.png) [@Already\_in\_Use](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Already_in_Use)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2003, 4:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-ammoral-question/199863/28 "2003-09-07T04:58:08Z")

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Damn machine stalled after going back 3 seconds!

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**Author:** ![Already\_in\_Use](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a9adbd/32.png) [@Already\_in\_Use](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Already_in_Use)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2003, 4:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-ammoral-question/199863/29 "2003-09-07T04:59:12Z")

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No problem, I’ll just go back in time and post in the beginning of the thread.

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2003, 5:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-ammoral-question/199863/30 "2003-09-07T05:43:50Z")

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> Well, that’s got my curiosity up. What, was she a serial killer or did she run a bordello, before taking up the nun’s habit?

I don’t remember the article with perfect clarity, but I remember Hitchens writing (he had argued this before the people who are working on her canonization) that, while she always extolled the virtues of poverty to her charges, she always looked after herself (first-class jets and medical facilities, etc.). He says her facilities didn’t help anyone, no matter how much money her organization made. In other words, he’s saying she watched a lot of people die and didn’t really help them.  
She was also way over on the conservative side with her views - which is unsurprising, of course, she was an old nun. But while people feel free to criticize Pat Buchanan and Jerry Falwell, and the Church’s views on abortion, they don’t realize that Mother Theresa stood for the same sort of things. For example, he mentions that, when Ireland (the last country in Europe that doesn’t allow divorce) was considering lifting this ban, she fought against it.

For my part, I’d say going to a country with the problems India has and telling people “be fruitful and multiply” and that abortion is wrong is, at best, negligent.

[Here’s a link to an interview with Hitchens about the subject.](http://www.secularhumanism.org/library/fi/hitchens_16_4.html) He had recently written a book about her called _Missionary Position_. 😉 😉 😉

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**Author:** ![Lord\_Ashtar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ea924/32.png) [@Lord\_Ashtar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Ashtar)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2003, 12:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-ammoral-question/199863/31 "2003-09-07T12:45:32Z")

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> \*Originally posted by imthjckaz \*  
> \*\*Thanks to **Lord Ashtar** , this thread has jumped the shark. \*\*

And where was it going before I jumped in?

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**Author:** ![ruadh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/d2c977/32.png) [@ruadh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ruadh)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2003, 12:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-ammoral-question/199863/32 "2003-09-07T12:53:48Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Marley23 \*  
> \*\*Ireland (the last country in Europe that doesn’t allow divorce) \*\*

Um, Ireland has allowed divorce since 1995.

To get back to the OP - I’m no fan of Mother Teresa, but if I had the power to go back and prevent someone’s birth, she wouldn’t even be close to the top of my list.

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**Author:** ![Tusculan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecd19e/32.png) [@Tusculan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tusculan)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2003, 12:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-ammoral-question/199863/33 "2003-09-07T12:57:44Z")

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If I could go back in time, I would tell the OP that he should check his prospective thread title for spelling errors. And I’m against killing human beings, so I guess that includes Mother Teresa too.

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**Author:** ![Tusculan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecd19e/32.png) [@Tusculan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tusculan)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2003, 12:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-ammoral-question/199863/34 "2003-09-07T12:59:56Z")

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And her mother as well.

Though I’m not against contraception, which should achieve the OP’s purpose just as well.

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**Author:** ![imthjckaz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/imthjckaz/32/3223_2.png) [@imthjckaz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/imthjckaz)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2003, 1:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-ammoral-question/199863/35 "2003-09-07T13:00:06Z")

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> _Originally posted by the Lordiest of Ashtar_  
> **And where was it going before I jumped in?**

Hmmm, you got a point there.

Maybe I was hoping for it’s quick and silent death.

Or maybe, I just had my snooty pants on.

[sub]_~shrug~_[/sub]

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**Author:** ![fizzygoodmakefeelnice](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/8491ac/32.png) [@fizzygoodmakefeelnice](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fizzygoodmakefeelnice)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2003, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-ammoral-question/199863/36 "2003-09-07T16:13:22Z")

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Mother Teresa, if she was prepared.

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**Author:** ![Optihut](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/edb3f5/32.png) [@Optihut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Optihut)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2003, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-ammoral-question/199863/37 "2003-09-07T17:34:24Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Lord Ashtar \*  
> \*\*And where was it going before I jumped in? \*\*

Perhaps with time travel we can save the thread from jumping the shark?

Then again, I also think that Ferg should bring us a 1920s style death ray, so who would want to save the thread in the first place?

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**Author:** ![poiema](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/c5a1d2/32.png) [@poiema](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/poiema)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2003, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-ammoral-question/199863/38 "2003-09-07T17:43:18Z")

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> \*Originally posted by 5U1C1D3 \*  
> \*\*Screw killing of mother T.
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> i’d find out the exact reason my mother had a miscarriage with her first born, and if possible to prevent, go back in time and intervene so the first pregnancy goes well.
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> If it would work, i’d dissapear off existance…since my parents only want 3kids.  
> \*\*

☹ this just made me incredibly sad. ☹

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2003, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-ammoral-question/199863/39 "2003-09-07T20:39:03Z")

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> Um, Ireland has allowed divorce since 1995.

Sorry, **ruadh** - I figured that had changed; I meant she was protesting the changing of that policy when it was being considered.

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**Author:** ![ioioio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ioioio/32/316_2.png) [@ioioio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ioioio)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2003, 10:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-ammoral-question/199863/40 "2003-09-07T22:59:57Z")

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> \*Originally posted by MC Master of Ceremonies \*  
> \*\*If you could go back in time and kill Mother Teresa’s mother before she was born, would you? \*\*

No, that would be ammoral.

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