# An Apology to Jonathan Chance **URL:** \ **Category:** About This Message Board\ **Created:** [August 30, 2016, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-apology-to-jonathan-chance/764493 "2016-08-30T16:36:45Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2016, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-apology-to-jonathan-chance/764493/1 "2016-08-30T16:36:45Z")
Over a year ago, I got a warning from Jonathan Chance. I protested this warning twice, believing it to be an uneven application of a standard – that is, I believed my words were judged more exactingly than others’ words had been in previous interactions. Over the past year, however, I have gradually come to realize that I was wrong. The issue was not that my words were judged more exactingly, but rather that Jonathan Chance was applying a more exacting standard across the board. So to speak. I was wrong in my earlier protest, and in any suggestion that any less even-handed motive was in play. I apologize. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2016, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-apology-to-jonathan-chance/764493/2 "2016-08-30T16:46:19Z")
Smartly done. ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2016, 4:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-apology-to-jonathan-chance/764493/3 "2016-08-30T16:59:31Z")
Bonus points will be awarded for an even more eloquent apology for the next accusation of bias. ---
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2016, 1:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-apology-to-jonathan-chance/764493/4 "2016-08-31T01:01:18Z")
> [@Jackmannii](#): > > Bonus points will be awarded for an even more eloquent apology for the next accusation of bias. I did not, and have not, changed my more general view that bias persists here. I have come to believe that the particular instance I mention was not the result of bias. Look, if I am convinced I’m wrong, I apologize. Your comment seems to suggest this is a poor trait. I don’t agree. ---
**Author:** ![TokyoBayer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tokyobayer/32/13989_2.png) [@TokyoBayer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TokyoBayer)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2016, 1:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-apology-to-jonathan-chance/764493/5 "2016-08-31T01:17:08Z")
Link? ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2016, 1:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-apology-to-jonathan-chance/764493/6 "2016-08-31T01:20:58Z")
Wait. Bricker got a warning? ---
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2016, 3:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-apology-to-jonathan-chance/764493/7 "2016-08-31T03:11:36Z")
> [@kayaker](#): > > Wait. Bricker got a warning? Yup. [Post here.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=18295370&postcount=91) Warning [here.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=18296744&postcount=109) ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2016, 3:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-apology-to-jonathan-chance/764493/8 "2016-08-31T03:55:31Z")
I noticed he called you in the past tense. “Bricked,” not “Bricker.” I can’t help but wonder if he knows something… ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2016, 10:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-apology-to-jonathan-chance/764493/9 "2016-08-31T10:36:02Z")
^heh. Autocorrect doesn’t like Bricker. (That’s why my other post was edited) ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2016, 10:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-apology-to-jonathan-chance/764493/10 "2016-08-31T10:39:45Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > Yup. > > [Post here.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=18295370&postcount=91) > > Warning [here.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=18296744&postcount=109) “How utterly deceptive” does seem like mod note territory at first blush. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2016, 12:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-apology-to-jonathan-chance/764493/11 "2016-08-31T12:33:52Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > Look, if I am convinced I’m wrong, I apologize. Your comment seems to suggest this is a poor trait. I don’t agree. The comment suggests observation of a pattern: 1. make inaccurate, provocative accusation 2. get slammed for it 3. enjoy ruckus one has created 4. eventually apologize, basking in misguided adulation for having done so No big deal, but eyeroll-worthy. ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2016, 12:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-apology-to-jonathan-chance/764493/12 "2016-08-31T12:38:59Z")
> [@Jackmannii](#): > > The comment suggests observation of a pattern: > > 1. make inaccurate, provocative accusation > 2. get slammed for it > 3. enjoy ruckus one has created > 4. eventually apologize, basking in misguided adulation for having done so > > No big deal, but eyeroll-worthy. Or, [ul] [li]Reflect on past behavior.[/li][li]Live life, continuing to grow and mature[/li][li]View past events in different light [/li][li]Profit (spiritually)[/li][li]Share with others [/li][/ul] ---
**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2016, 12:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-apology-to-jonathan-chance/764493/13 "2016-08-31T12:51:03Z")
Let’s not let this get into personalities. It’s not the place. As for the apology? Thanks, I guess? It’s not necessary, IMHO, but thanks. It’s certainly a change of pace. ---
**Author:** ![TokyoBayer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tokyobayer/32/13989_2.png) [@TokyoBayer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TokyoBayer)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2016, 12:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-apology-to-jonathan-chance/764493/14 "2016-08-31T12:51:29Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > Yup. > > [Post here.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=18295370&postcount=91) > > Warning [here.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=18296744&postcount=109) And a link to the discussion? ---
**Author:** ![Amateur\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/59ef9b/32.png) [@Amateur\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Amateur_Barbarian)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2016, 12:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-apology-to-jonathan-chance/764493/15 "2016-08-31T12:53:32Z")
> [@Jonathan\_Chance](#): > > It’s certainly a change of pace. It certainly is. ---
**Author:** ![Bumbershoot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bumbershoot/32/3428_2.png) [@Bumbershoot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bumbershoot)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2016, 1:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-apology-to-jonathan-chance/764493/16 "2016-08-31T13:12:04Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > Yup. > > [Post here.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=18295370&postcount=91) > > Warning [here.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=18296744&postcount=109) > [@TokyoBayer](#): > > And a link to the discussion? Both of the links above contain a link to the original thread in the upper right corner. ---
**Author:** ![Drunky\_Smurf](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drunky_smurf/32/449_2.png) [@Drunky\_Smurf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drunky_Smurf)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2016, 4:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-apology-to-jonathan-chance/764493/17 "2016-08-31T16:02:33Z")
> [@Amateur\_Barbarian](#): > > It certainly is. Yes, it certainly is. ---
**Author:** ![sich\_hinaufwinden](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c5a1d2/32.png) [@sich\_hinaufwinden](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sich_hinaufwinden)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2016, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-apology-to-jonathan-chance/764493/18 "2016-08-31T17:03:26Z")
> [@TokyoBayer](#): > > And a link to the discussion? > [@Bumbershoot](#): > > Both of the links above contain a link to the original thread in the upper right corner. I think he’s asking for a link to the two protests **Bricker** mentioned in the OP, presumably thread(s) in ATMB, not the original thread where the warning occurred. I was hoping for the same thing to better understand what **Bricker** ’s reasoning was, but not interested enough to search it out on my own. ---
**Author:** ![Whiskey\_Dickens](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/9fc348/32.png) [@Whiskey\_Dickens](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whiskey_Dickens)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2016, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-apology-to-jonathan-chance/764493/19 "2016-08-31T18:55:46Z")
Maybe apologies to other users should be handled using the PM system. ---
**Author:** ![Bumbershoot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bumbershoot/32/3428_2.png) [@Bumbershoot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bumbershoot)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2016, 6:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-apology-to-jonathan-chance/764493/20 "2016-08-31T18:56:16Z")
> [@sich\_hinaufwinden](#): > > I think he’s asking for a link to the two protests **Bricker** mentioned in the OP, presumably thread(s) in ATMB, not the original thread where the warning occurred. > > I was hoping for the same thing to better understand what **Bricker** ’s reasoning was, but not interested enough to search it out on my own. Ah, that may be. Well it’s a slow day at work so I have time to do a search and it looks like Bricker did not start any threads about it, so perhaps he made his protests via PM. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-apology-to-jonathan-chance/764493.md?page=2)