# An apology to Ultress and the rest of the alleged brigade **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 11, 2003, 11:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-apology-to-ultress-and-the-rest-of-the-alleged-brigade/181231 "2003-06-11T23:44:27Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![ultress](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/7c8e57/32.png) [@ultress](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ultress)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2003, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-apology-to-ultress-and-the-rest-of-the-alleged-brigade/181231/21 "2003-06-12T17:09:44Z")
**Aries28** seems you are a little late. We already got over it. You missed the party. ---
**Author:** ![Diane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/2acd7d/32.png) [@Diane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diane)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2003, 5:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-apology-to-ultress-and-the-rest-of-the-alleged-brigade/181231/22 "2003-06-12T17:39:13Z")
Weird vision, I know, but I just pictured a pile of football players standing up from a tackle and brushing themselves off to get ready for the next play. Then one sole player runs up the field and throws himself onto the spot of grass where the pile of players used to be. **THUNK!** ---
**Author:** ![CrankyAsAnOldMan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crankyasanoldman/32/11670_2.png) [@CrankyAsAnOldMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CrankyAsAnOldMan)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2003, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-apology-to-ultress-and-the-rest-of-the-alleged-brigade/181231/23 "2003-06-12T17:40:12Z")
That sucks, Bottled Blond Jeannie. Sorry for your loss, and that disagreements over your other thread came at a time when you were dealing with a lot of difficult stuff. It’s hard enough to be gracious about differences of opinion when things are hunky dory (christ knows I have a bear of a time with that). I hope that things look up for you soon. Of course, the loss of a pregnancy doesn’t go away, but I hope the other stresses are eased. ---
**Author:** ![Aries28](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e36b37/32.png) [@Aries28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aries28)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2003, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-apology-to-ultress-and-the-rest-of-the-alleged-brigade/181231/24 "2003-06-12T18:10:19Z")
My bad…I didn’t realize opinions had a time limit. Nor did I notice the thread as being closed… Oh, well…I can’t be as smart as others. ---
**Author:** ![DeskMonkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/f14d63/32.png) [@DeskMonkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DeskMonkey)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2003, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-apology-to-ultress-and-the-rest-of-the-alleged-brigade/181231/25 "2003-06-12T18:42:21Z")
Whoo boy, **ultress** and **Diane** , I gotta say that didn’t help out the “we’re not catty bitches” bit of your arguments. Nice try, though. ---
**Author:** ![ultress](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/7c8e57/32.png) [@ultress](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ultress)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2003, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-apology-to-ultress-and-the-rest-of-the-alleged-brigade/181231/26 "2003-06-12T18:42:44Z")
BINGO!!! ---
**Author:** ![cuauhtemoc](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ecb155/32.png) [@cuauhtemoc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cuauhtemoc)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2003, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-apology-to-ultress-and-the-rest-of-the-alleged-brigade/181231/27 "2003-06-12T19:21:21Z")
That thread reminded me a lot of when **Suspenderzzz** ( **zz**?) made some ignorant, mean-spirited comments about married suburban homeowning parents who live in New Jersey. The difference was that she never offered a word of explanation for her jerkish behavior, while **BBJ** has owned up to hers and apologized. ---
**Author:** ![cuauhtemoc](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ecb155/32.png) [@cuauhtemoc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cuauhtemoc)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2003, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-apology-to-ultress-and-the-rest-of-the-alleged-brigade/181231/28 "2003-06-12T19:25:04Z")
Oh, and I am also sorry for your loss, **BBJ**. ---
**Author:** ![Diane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/2acd7d/32.png) [@Diane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diane)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2003, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-apology-to-ultress-and-the-rest-of-the-alleged-brigade/181231/29 "2003-06-12T19:56:25Z")
No Aries, there aren’t time limits on posting to a thread - well there are, but that is a different story. The thing is, is that BBJ apologized, we accepted, we offered our condolences, and everyone was well on the road to “getting over it” when you popped in with your words of wisdom. It was not only a little late, it also looked at little silly and like you hadn’t paid much attention. ---
**Author:** ![Diane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/2acd7d/32.png) [@Diane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diane)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2003, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-apology-to-ultress-and-the-rest-of-the-alleged-brigade/181231/30 "2003-06-12T20:02:17Z")
No no no, we aren’t the catty bitches, we are the Bitch Brigade which is affiliated with the local chapter of the Raving Skank Posse. ---
**Author:** ![Aries28](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e36b37/32.png) [@Aries28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aries28)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2003, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-apology-to-ultress-and-the-rest-of-the-alleged-brigade/181231/31 "2003-06-12T20:04:58Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Diane \* > \*\*Oh get off your high horse, lez, some of us just saw this thread. > > I accept your apology BBJ and am truly sorry about your loss. > If you want to be known as the bubbleheaded bigotted bimbo, that is okay too, just don’t act so shocked when you are treated as such. > > \*\* While I acknowledge you accepted her apology…the statement later on about being known as a bubbleheaded bigotted bimbo was obvious a dig at her AFTER she said she was sorry. To me…that’s not getting over something. But again…I came into this late and just though I would put my two cents in…I should have noted the time that had past and withheld my opinion since after a certain amount of time giving it appears silly. Maybe there should be a chart somewhere giving us all a time line of when “too” much time has passed to respond to a thread one has just read??? ---
**Author:** ![Diane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/2acd7d/32.png) [@Diane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diane)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2003, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-apology-to-ultress-and-the-rest-of-the-alleged-brigade/181231/32 "2003-06-12T20:15:32Z")
A chart would be good. ---
**Author:** ![DeskMonkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/f14d63/32.png) [@DeskMonkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DeskMonkey)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2003, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-apology-to-ultress-and-the-rest-of-the-alleged-brigade/181231/33 "2003-06-12T20:21:04Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Diane \* > \*\*No no no, we aren’t the catty bitches, we are the Bitch Brigade which is affiliated with the local chapter of the Raving Skank Posse. \*\* Oh! For a minute there I thought **ultress** was in full agreement, what with the hearty “BINGO!” that followed my own catty post. 🙂 Are you a volunteer brigade or are there benefits? Because lately I’ve had a few extra buckets o’ bitch that I could afford to pass down the line. **BBJ** , I’m so sorry for your loss. No one should ever have to go through that. FTR, I thought your OP was funny and you described exactly what I pictured when you first mentioned you were at that concert. Sounds like a mullet showroom. ---
**Author:** ![Diane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/2acd7d/32.png) [@Diane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diane)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2003, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-apology-to-ultress-and-the-rest-of-the-alleged-brigade/181231/34 "2003-06-12T20:39:04Z")
Full volunteer, however, membership in the Raving Skank Posse requires a yearly usage fee. ---
**Author:** ![lezlers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/258eb7/32.png) [@lezlers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lezlers)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2003, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-apology-to-ultress-and-the-rest-of-the-alleged-brigade/181231/35 "2003-06-12T21:36:37Z")
**Aries** , don’t even try to reason with the almighty **Diane**. This is _her_ board see? And everyone therefore must follow _her_ rules, lest they be idiots. (For what it’s worth, I agreed with you about the making digs after **BBJ** had apologized, some people are just _catty_ that way, some outwardly, like **Ultress** and others more passive aggressively, like **Diane** ) Something tells me I’m gonna regret posting this, but at this point in my day, I don’t give a fuck. ---
**Author:** ![Slainte](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a698b9/32.png) [@Slainte](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slainte)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2003, 10:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-apology-to-ultress-and-the-rest-of-the-alleged-brigade/181231/36 "2003-06-12T22:12:07Z")
**BBJ** , I’m sorry to hear of your loss. You’ll be in my thoughts. ---
**Author:** ![MelCthefirst](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/eada6e/32.png) [@MelCthefirst](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MelCthefirst)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2003, 10:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-apology-to-ultress-and-the-rest-of-the-alleged-brigade/181231/37 "2003-06-12T22:31:51Z")
BBJ - hope you are coping okay. FWIW - after lurking in your other thread, I thought you were treated rather abrasively, for using the term ‘white trash’. We use this term here too, as do Aussies and Brits. I have a friend from Maine who calls herself ‘white trash’ so it is totally up to the individual if they choose to associate the term with being a Southerner or not - we don’t. Oh, and I thought your original OP quite amusing too. ---
**Author:** ![Primaflora](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/898d66/32.png) [@Primaflora](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Primaflora)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2003, 11:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-apology-to-ultress-and-the-rest-of-the-alleged-brigade/181231/38 "2003-06-12T23:17:48Z")
MelC, you need to qualify the white trash statement. It’s a term I would never use, any more than I would use Hoari or Abo. Just because it’s got white in the title doesn’t mean it’s any less derogatory or distasteful if you stop and actually think about what you are saying. BBJ, I’m sorry for your loss, it can be very hard to keep oneself functional and balanced with the hormonal changes and the stress of loss. ---
**Author:** ![MelCthefirst](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/eada6e/32.png) [@MelCthefirst](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MelCthefirst)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2003, 1:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-apology-to-ultress-and-the-rest-of-the-alleged-brigade/181231/39 "2003-06-13T01:09:17Z")
yeh, I know, but ‘under-educated-poorly behaved white person from a low socioeconomic group wearing ill-fitted brightly coloured clothes and make-up,’ is just too much of a mouthful. Yes, it’s stereotyping and meant to be derogatory, but by calling someone ‘white trash’, I am not assuming anything other than the above about that person. Please don’t tell me that ‘white trash’ is the equivalent to an ethnic group and therefore a rascist term and that there are people who seriously classify themselves as ‘white trash’ and therefore find the term offensive. It’s descriptive. ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2003, 1:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-apology-to-ultress-and-the-rest-of-the-alleged-brigade/181231/40 "2003-06-13T01:27:32Z")
Is there a thread that someone can link to so I can see what everyone’s snarking about? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-apology-to-ultress-and-the-rest-of-the-alleged-brigade/181231.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/an-apology-to-ultress-and-the-rest-of-the-alleged-brigade/181231.md?page=3)